Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
I'm kidding btw, this is a thread on the origin of sin, not whether or not an action is a thing...
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I quoted SCRIPTURE to this effect man;
1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
Now, where does God repent of His Word?
actually, that's very good!Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
I'm kidding btw, this is a thread on the origin of sin, not whether or not an action is a thing...
actually, that's very good!
And so now, I ask you, why will God Judge every deed, and Judge Righteously good and evil acts if there is no difference?
Consider the 4 attributes of GOD, Omnipotent (all powerful) Omnipresent, (is every where at every time) Omniscient, (all knowing) and eternal which means was there from beginning and will be there forever.
With these great attributes of God, its hard to imagine how evil ever came to be, that is as we know it to be. Most people believe that evil (devil) is an arch RIVAL of good (God). Such a believe is illogical when you consider an all powerful God, all knowing and perfect God. Which means everything he does is PERFECT with not even a slight error. We (esp. Christian) believe that devil was God creature. Then again we say that this creature rebelled against his maker! Check this out,what was made with PERFECTION turned to be IMPERFECT and rebelled against his designer. (rebellion is no doubt an imperfection) Such a believe is not only illogical but means that God made an error in his creation-which is not possible! Even men never quarrel with their tools! We forget that nothing surprises God cause he knows the future. U cant impress God by being too righteous, he made u that way! According to an Omniscient God FREE WILL doesn't exist.
So how did this creature 'turned against' God? The ONLY logical explanation is that everything was God's plan. God designed both good and evil, he is above all, rules over everything. The devil is not a rival of GOD but a creature working according to how it was designd to work.
My argument is evident in the bible, we can see this when God sent an evil spirit 2 deceive Saul (1 Sam 16:23), also when demons asks permission God 2 test Jobs faith. Then their is this part in 2 Samuel chapter 24, where God 'incites' David to take census, but the repetition of the same event in 1 Chronicles 21:1 says, 'Satan caused David...' Which means that God can use Satan to fulfill his wishes.
This evidence clearly shows that presence of evil in the world is part of Gods design to balance things in nature...just the way he created light n darkness, pain n pleasure, flowers n thorns, birds n snakes, butterflies n scorpions,....
And if God absolutely had nothing to do with evil, then why call him
actually, that's very good!
And so now, I ask you, why will God Judge every deed, and Judge Righteously good and evil acts if there is no difference?
Yes, so then, evil is definately NOT of God in this world, nor the next.Wha? There is a difference. Evil acts he dislikes, and good acts he likes.
That is the million dollar question. If God uses evil for good, doesn't that actually make evil good? My theory is that although evil at this present time is bad, God will make it work for His glory as He does all things. However, God can still punish those evil doers, since He already told us throughout the Bible not to do the evil acts.
My dearest brothers and sisters,
I choose not to display the obvious reasons that our Good Lord did not take part in the creation evil.
I will however point out what our Word has reminded us.
1 Timothy 4 vs 4.
For everything created by our God is GOOD,....
I know you will try to rebuke, calling out "context, context", but I tell you this. The root of the Word everything is of God. He has all that is pure and good within Him. It is not of God to be unclean, and without our Beloved, we are filth. He has made everything good and clean. It is of satan, alone, that evil and filth exist.
Praise and exalt Him above all forever!
So what then of the ETERNAL punishment for those who choose evil or good?God is an all good god so evil is good.... in the end...
So what then of the ETERNAL punishment for those who choose evil or good?
Eternity has NO end!
Evil, and those who subscribe to it's ultimate equality with good, will NEVER be made clean, for they have rejected the Truth of the Word.What about it?
Evil, and those who subscribe to it's ultimate equality with good, will NEVER be made clean, for they have rejected the Truth of the Word.
Man is given ample opportunity to turn from demon made ideas of such that God has created or ordained evil in man or angelic creation. There is no evil in that which is God, nor can a man subscribe to such thought if he is to be made clean for the purpose of entering into his Fathers presence.
There is only hope that those are burned away fast, and are forgotten, by themselves and our ALmighty, but Most Gracious Father!
Scriptural evidence is in opposition to this hope, so I choose to at least try to understand the essence of an infallible Creator, and refuse to even contemplate His fallibility, or as some may call it, His puppeteering.
Evil, and those who subscribe to it's ultimate equality with good, will NEVER be made clean, for they have rejected the Truth of the Word.
Man is given ample opportunity to turn from demon made ideas of such that God has created or ordained evil in man or angelic creation. There is no evil in that which is God, nor can a man subscribe to such thought if he is to be made clean for the purpose of entering into his Fathers presence.
There is only hope that those are burned away fast, and are forgotten, by themselves and our ALmighty, but Most Gracious Father!
Scriptural evidence is in opposition to this hope, so I choose to at least try to understand the essence of an infallible Creator, and refuse to even contemplate His fallibility, or as some may call it, His puppeteering.
That sounds an aweful lot like what the self proclaimed satanist Albert Pike told his fellow luciferians in his instructions to the higher degrees demons.You must not understand what the law of opposites is.
Would you know what good was, If there were no evil?
No you would not.
Why do you eat something sweet, after you take something that is bitter?
There are no "Demon" made ideas.
Man is made clean through God, and nothing is thought outside of the purpose that God has intended for man to take.
Jesus made it very clear:
For out of the heart (The mind) proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.
God is the creator,and minister of Evil, but most do not understand the difference between God using Evil for good, and using good for evil. Good, and Evil are nothing more than two words trying to describe something that is essentially "One" and the same, the only difference being is "degree"
There is no such thing as "Cold & Hot", "Light & Darkness", "Good & Evil." There is only words for us humans to describe the difference between things we perceive as opposites.
God is one.
That sounds an aweful lot like what the self proclaimed satanist Albert Pike told his fellow luciferians in his instructions to the higher degrees demons.
You must understand that ALL that is evil is of satan, and that WILL be burned away when Jesus, WHO IS PURE AND HOLY GOOD returns.
Denounce this satanic nonsense, and return to the purity of good, that is in Christ Jesus.
lucifer was not falsely accused. his evil was in opposition to the good of ALmighty, and those who believe contrary may share his fate!
That sounds an aweful lot like what the self proclaimed satanist Albert Pike told his fellow luciferians in his instructions to the higher degrees demons.
You must understand that ALL that is evil is of satan, and that WILL be burned away when Jesus, WHO IS PURE AND HOLY GOOD returns.
Denounce this satanic nonsense, and return to the purity of good, that is in Christ Jesus.
lucifer was not falsely accused. his evil was in opposition to the good of ALmighty, and those who believe contrary may share his fate!
instructions to the higher degrees demons
You must understand that ALL that is evil is of satan,
lucifer was not falsely accused. his evil was in opposition to the good of ALmighty, and those who believe contrary may share his fate!
My dearest brother,Do you even "know" what demon means almighty.
Did you even know that the word "demon/demons" doesn't even occur one single time in your bible (which is I would guess the KJV, but other versions use the word demons instead of Devil/Devils)
The word Devil/Devils is the word used in the KJV, not Demons.
Some would derive the word from a root da--, meaning "to distribute." More probably it is from a similar root da--, meaning "to know," and hence means "a knowing one."
The "Spirit of God" is the one who drove Jesus into the desert to be tempted of the "Devil"
Do you believe this?
Of course this means nothing to you, since I assume you take everything "literally" when it comes to the KJV, I thought "just maybe" you might do as the bible admonishes you to do which is:
"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2 Tim. 2:15
From Masonic Info.
[FONT=verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!""[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=verdana, Arial, Helvetica]The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, "bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King."[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=verdana, Arial, Helvetica]"Lucifer" is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light.[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=verdana, Arial, Helvetica][FONT=verdana, Arial, Helvetica]When Albert Pike and other Masonic scholars spoke over a century ago about the "Luciferian path," or the "energies of Lucifer," they were referring to the morning star, the light bearer, the search for light; the very antithesis of dark, satanic evil."[/FONT][/FONT]
You must understand that "God is the one who created "Good & Evil" for his purpose, and God created Satan for the purpose to sift you like wheat.
"By HIS SPIRIT He hath garnished the heavens; his HAND has FORMED THE CROOKED SERPENT" (Job 26:13). God garnished the heavens by His SPIRIT, because they are a thing of great glory, beauty, and splendor. But the crooked SERPENT God formed by His "hand" -- at ARMS LENGTH. Thus indicating it was something necessary, but not of His HEART AND SPIRIT! Satan is called "the crooked serpent." This word crooked comes from a Hebrew word that is not translated "crooked" anywhere else in the Bible. The word in Hebrew is bariach, and it means "a fugitive," Strongs #1281. And "fugitive" is from the Hebrew word nuwa, Strongs #5128, among its several meanings are: "to [go] up and down," and "to and fro," and to "sift." Remember that God names things according to what they are and what they do:
(A) "And the LORD [is this a high enough authority for everyone?] Said unto SATAN [not a heretofore archangel], Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going TO AND FRO in the earth, and from walking UP AND DOWN in it" (Job. 1:7 and 2:2).
It is the "crooked [fugitive] SERPENT" SATAN who goes "TO AND FRO" and "UP AND DOWN" in the earth! God created Satan for this purpose.
(B) "And the LORD said [is this a high enough authority for everyone?], Simon, Simon, behold, SATAN [not a heretofore archangel] hath desired to have you, that he may SIFT you as wheat" (Luke 22:31).
it is the "crooked [fugitive] SERPENT" SATAN who "SIFTS" men like wheat! God created Satan for this purpose.
"In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, To deliver such an one UNTO SATAN for DESTRUCTION of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus" (I Cor. 5:4-5).
Do you believe what the Bible declares, or do you believe what preachers want you to learn?
And that is just what God created him for.
"Behold, I have created the smith [thats me] that blows the coals in the fire, and that brings forth an instrument for His work, and I have CREATED THE WASTER TO DESTROY" (Isaiah 54:16). ["waster" -- Hebrew: shachath, decay, ruin, batter, cast off, corrupt, destroy, lose, mar, perish, spill spoil -- UTTERLY WASTE, #7843, p. 115, Strongs Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary].
God created the "WASTER," not the archangel who later supposedly became Satan, but from the BEGINNING God said He created "The WASTER" and He created him "TO DESTROY" Now then, WHOS role is it to "destroy" the flesh of man so that the spirit may be saved?
"In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when you are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, To deliver such an one UNTO SATAN for DESTRUCTION of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus" (I Cor. 5:4-5).
It is SATAN who was created from his very beginning to be "the WASTER to DESTROY" mens flesh (carnal mindedness) so that they learn not to blaspheme (I Tim. 1:20).
My dearest brother,
Contrary to what you may think, I do not get my education from a preacher. Nor do I subscribe to the vast majority of apostasy that abounds this day in the harlot.
I do however KNOW that lucifer is maitreya, the deciever, that the free mason
religion is steadily trying to deliver Christendom unto.
i am the trump of the Lord ALmighty, and slave to Christ Jesus. I KNOW of whom I accuse. I have witnessed his flight, and have seen his descent. It is easy for you free masons to come here amongst Christians who are blinded by dogmatic pride, and apostatize. But I tell you this. I may not be here daily, and I may not see every thread, but when I see the work of satan, who IS LUCIFER the light(knowledge, sorcery, technology etc etc etc) I will call it what it is.
Technology from his wisdom WILL BE BURNED AWAY, and the chafe who need it will be burned along with it. I will be released form this flesh upon my Masters return, and exist in Him, and under His Divine protection until then.
What can lucifer give. A light bulb. Big deal. My kid can start a fire and make a torch. He's not 4 ft tall.
lucifer will have his judgement, and I will call out his technological eden, and the unity of its mark for what it is.
BLASPHEMY!
I do not get my education from a preacher.
I do however KNOW that lucifer is maitreya, the deciever, that the free mason
religion is steadily trying to deliver Christendom unto.
i am the trump of the Lord ALmighty, and slave to Christ Jesus. I KNOW of whom I accuse. I have witnessed his flight, and have seen his descent.
It is easy for you free masons to come here amongst Christians who are blinded by dogmatic pride, and apostatize.
I may not be here daily, and I may not see every thread, but when I see the work of satan, who IS LUCIFER the light(knowledge, sorcery, technology etc etc etc) I will call it what it is.
Technology from his wisdom WILL BE BURNED AWAY
What can lucifer give. A light bulb. Big deal. My kid can start a fire and make a torch. He's not 4 ft tall.
lucifer will have his judgement, and I will call out his technological eden, and the unity of its mark for what it is.
My dearest brother,
I refuse to acknowledge or consider that the ALL good God, who is incapable of evil due to the nature of His grace, has created evil, nor do I subcribe to the puppeteering accusation that would ensue.
God is faithful and just, and I will accept no other theology than that. Indeed there are Scriptural references to such, almost all in the OT, but the context of such is that one could understand this either way.
I have told you no lies.
I do however, humbly apologize for assuming you were a free mason, as that was wrong, and I ask of you forgiveness.
As to your debate, I choose not to contend, because I refuse to yield my position. But I stand on my assertion.
As for the free mason, iluminist agenda, this has been shown to me, and it is what is coming, and maitreya is lucifer.
I refuse to acknowledge or consider that the ALL good God, who is incapable of evil due to the nature of His grace, has created evil
I do however, humbly apologize for assuming you were a free mason, as that was wrong, and I ask of you forgiveness.
As for the free mason, iluminist agenda, this has been shown to me, and it is what is coming, and maitreya is lucifer.
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