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I feel like we as God's people don't discuss him enough. He's our mortal enemy you know. Heck, he's everyone's enemy to be precise. I know what you guys are going to say: You're going to tell me that I should put my focus on Christ only but we don't talk about how to defeat the Devil should he come. I find this to be a problem. We have no battle plan, no strategy. We desperately need one.

We know he is the Evil One, the Son of Perdition as mentioned in the Bible. Does anyone on here know some good spiritual warfare practices? Sorry, but I'm not an expert in this area. Any advice and help would be appreciated.
 

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People rarely discuss "Lucifer" because of the entire idea of Lucifer being a demon relies on various tenuous propositions.

The word Lucifer in Latin originally was used to refer to the morning star, with no demonic connotations whatsoever. This word is found in several passages in the Latin translation of the Bible, such as Job 11:17, Job 38:32, Psalm 109:3 (Psalm 110:3 in the Hebrew numbering), all in reference to the morning star. There is also Isaiah 14:12, which is the pertinent one.

In the Hebrew, Isaiah 14:12 says הֵילֵל (romanizations vary but common ones are heylel or helel). This is the only instance of this word in the Hebrew Old Testament, and is apparently a reference to the morning star (the other references to the morning star used a different term). The Septuagint, the Greek translation of the Old Testament, translated this as ἑωσφόρος (eosphoros), which means morning star.

So we have a pretty consistent interpretation of Isaiah 14:12 as referring to the morning star. The whole reason "lucifer" is found there at all in the Latin is because it means, once again, morning star.

So how did a simple word for the morning star get turned into an alternate term for Satan? It's Isaiah 14:12. This is part of a taunt towards the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:4 explicitly says so), but a later interpretation is that it's also a reference to the fall of Satan. This interpretation has long been disputed, but it has certainly been a popular one. Since the word "lucifer" was there in the Latin, that meant that it got turned into an alternate term for Satan, giving the word lucifer a new meaning it never had before (note that even after becoming an alternate name for Satan, the term lucifer could still be used with its older meanings in Latin, such as to refer to the morning star) and persisting to this day, particularly due to some popular earlier English translations translating heylel as Lucifer (nowadays translations usually render it, more properly I think, as "morning star" or "shining one").

With better recognition of these factors, "Lucifer" has lost popularity in English as a term to refer to the devil. Indeed, there seems little reason to use it. The term Lucifer in reference to Satan rests on a disputed translation and also a translation of it, not the original text. Meanwhile, the name Satan is right there undisputed as a name for the devil and in the original language! Why use a questionable name rather than the actual one? Nowadays it seems to mostly just be a euphemistic term.
 
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No offense, but I find your response to be both stuck up and rude! I hardly ever rebuke ANYONE concerning what they might say to me, but brother, don't be a know-it-all. Sheesh. You're like "Why use a questionable name rather than the actual one? Nowadays it seems to mostly just be a euphemistic term." As if I should just automatically know this. You sound like snobbish university student who thinks they know better than everyone else.

If I am misinterpreting your post in some way, then I apologize, but seriously...if this website has an ignore option I just might put you on it! Then we wouldn't be able to talk to each other. Please don't make me do that. If for some reason I am overreacting here in my offense (yes, I am offended), then so help me...
 
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No offense, but I find your response to be both stuck up and rude! I hardly ever rebuke ANYONE concerning what they might say to me, but brother, don't be a know-it-all. Sheesh. You're like "Why use a questionable name rather than the actual one? Nowadays it seems to mostly just be a euphemistic term." As if I should just automatically know this. You sound like snobbish university student who thinks they know better than everyone else.

If I am misinterpreting your post in some way, then I apologize, but seriously...if this website has an ignore option I just might put you on it! Then we wouldn't be able to talk to each other. Please don't make me do that. If for some reason I am overreacting here in my offense (yes, I am offended), then so help me...
I was just trying to answer your question in detail.

The last two sentences, upon review, were not the best written, or perhaps more accurately were not the best connected. The question of "Why use a questionable name rather than the actual one?" was meant to be a summary of the preceding paragraph. The subsequent statement of "Nowadays it seems to mostly just be a euphemistic term" was meant to be a more separate remark, in explanation of how that's the main way I see it used. It probably would have been better to put that sentence between the first and second of the final paragraph.
 
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You would need to get filled with the Holy spirit, and seek God in prayer and scriptures, godly material,
He is going to teach you about the tricks the enemy does if you really need it. The bible says he would teach us, we need Him.
 
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I feel like we as God's people don't discuss him enough. He's our mortal enemy you know. Heck, he's everyone's enemy to be precise. I know what you guys are going to say: You're going to tell me that I should put my focus on Christ only but we don't talk about how to defeat the Devil should he come. I find this to be a problem. We have no battle plan, no strategy. We desperately need one.

We know he is the Evil One, the Son of Perdition as mentioned in the Bible. Does anyone on here know some good spiritual warfare practices? Sorry, but I'm not an expert in this area. Any advice and help would be appreciated.
have you read napoleon hill's book outwitting the devil?

no one would publish it until 2011
 
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We know he is the Evil One, the Son of Perdition as mentioned in the Bible. Does anyone on here know some good spiritual warfare practices? Sorry, but I'm not an expert in this area. Any advice and help would be appreciated.
Confess your sins, however that is done in your tradition, do it without reservation and do it as often as you can. That is the most effective spiritual warfare tactic that I know of. Confess and pray, prayer is the weapon in the spiritual war.

You are already doing better than many by actually knowing that the Devil exists, and that there is a war going on. Pray for others who know that, stay in contact with others who know. The truth is your protection from the "father of lies".
 
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There's numerous sermons and resources on the subject. But there was not enough on personal responsibility and holiness which are equally important. Combining the pair with a consistent practice of prayer, fasting, study and fellowship is how you keep him at bay. We don't need a battle plan for satan. Doing as the bible instructs is our best defense. Offensive prayer has a place but it's an outgrowth of the other. It's frequently employed once you've covered the bases and dealt with strongholds.

Dressed to Kill is a great starting point. He covers spiritual armor in depth which is important for warfare. You can find the book on Amazon.

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No offense, but I find your response to be both stuck up and rude! I hardly ever rebuke ANYONE concerning what they might say to me, but brother, don't be a know-it-all. Sheesh. You're like "Why use a questionable name rather than the actual one? Nowadays it seems to mostly just be a euphemistic term." As if I should just automatically know this. You sound like snobbish university student who thinks they know better than everyone else.

If I am misinterpreting your post in some way, then I apologize, but seriously...if this website has an ignore option I just might put you on it! Then we wouldn't be able to talk to each other. Please don't make me do that. If for some reason I am overreacting here in my offense (yes, I am offended), then so help me...
I dont mean to interject but, wow I never saw this response comming. I guess you will call me rude as well but its true, Lucifer is not Satan's name.
Blessings
 
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I feel like we as God's people don't discuss him enough. He's our mortal enemy you know. Heck, he's everyone's enemy to be precise. I know what you guys are going to say: You're going to tell me that I should put my focus on Christ only but we don't talk about how to defeat the Devil should he come. I find this to be a problem. We have no battle plan, no strategy. We desperately need one.

We know he is the Evil One, the Son of Perdition as mentioned in the Bible. Does anyone on here know some good spiritual warfare practices? Sorry, but I'm not an expert in this area. Any advice and help would be appreciated.
Our defense is His Holy Spirit who dwells in each and every believer through regeneration. This is what is meant by putting on the " full armor of God."
Blessings
 
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Our defense is His Holy Spirit who dwells in each and every believer through regeneration. This is what is meant by putting on the " full armor of God."
Blessings
What then is the point of any discourse between christians on any matter?
 
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What then is the point of any discourse between christians on any matter?
We can debate all we want with each other however, only those who walk with His Holy Spirit daily carry discernment, sharing His Gospel message in truth. We should always be mindful that the devil seeks to deceive the weak in faith and those who are uninformed.

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour."
 
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