George Zimmerman had cause
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Where are supposed to be at this point? Did you believe we should have this incident/crime/tragedy solved within 10 pages on a Christian Forum?
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Wikipedia helps us get past the media headlines: "Black youth gunned down while walking from convenience store with skittles and tea."
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Progress? LOL. You are in the wrong place for progress. Having said that, please leave us to do what we want to do, thanks. If you believe it is usless then you are in the wrong place.
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I don't notice you adding substance here. What cause did Zimmerman have?
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So...why do you post here (not to be rude) if it's so useless?
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I try to only post what is least likely to have occurred to others and look here for others to fill those gaps for me. That may not be progress, but it does go a long way toward clarity.
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There seems to me to be several "camps":
Those who are left to believe that George assaulted Trayvon.
Those who are left to believe that George provoked Trayvon"s just assault on himself.
Those who are left to believe that George provoked Trayvon's unjust assault on himself.
I am left to believe that the historical, statistical and personal experience contexts that justify Trayvon's assault are not afforded to George. In other words, Trayvon is afforded the "right" to view George's provocations in light of his personal-racial experiences, sociological and historic contexts; George is not.
This actually reveals a deep cultural divide wherein one culture is encouraged to view the world in a broad context and another culture is encouraged to "greet every moment with a clean slate", "don't judge a book by its cover".
I've always considered "above all else don't profile or prejudge at any expense" to be way over the top, pasty face, academic detachment from reality that can only be employed by intellectuals who's final products remain in the realm of ideas. In other words, it's a dumb-white-idea.
Ironically in the US, I grew up a minority in my community. I'm not black, and I'm no stranger to a great many who are, but I am life long friends with a precious few. I am left to believe that the average black American will be judging the heck out of a book by it's cover. "What, are you stupid? Can't you even remember yesterday? I'll whip your dumb white butt, tell your mother and watch her do it again." It's been 40+yrs, but it usually went something like that. May God rest her soul.
Those who are left to believe that George assaulted Trayvon.
Those who are left to believe that George provoked Trayvon"s just assault on himself.
Those who are left to believe that George provoked Trayvon's unjust assault on himself.
I am left to believe that the historical, statistical and personal experience contexts that justify Trayvon's assault are not afforded to George. In other words, Trayvon is afforded the "right" to view George's provocations in light of his personal-racial experiences, sociological and historic contexts; George is not.
This actually reveals a deep cultural divide wherein one culture is encouraged to view the world in a broad context and another culture is encouraged to "greet every moment with a clean slate", "don't judge a book by its cover".
I've always considered "above all else don't profile or prejudge at any expense" to be way over the top, pasty face, academic detachment from reality that can only be employed by intellectuals who's final products remain in the realm of ideas. In other words, it's a dumb-white-idea.
Ironically in the US, I grew up a minority in my community. I'm not black, and I'm no stranger to a great many who are, but I am life long friends with a precious few. I am left to believe that the average black American will be judging the heck out of a book by it's cover. "What, are you stupid? Can't you even remember yesterday? I'll whip your dumb white butt, tell your mother and watch her do it again." It's been 40+yrs, but it usually went something like that. May God rest her soul.
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If Trayvon had a gun, that might hold some water. As it was... he was unarmed. Thus the murder was unjustifiable.
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No justification to shoot an unarmed man? ok, I can see that. I disagree, and in this case, if George was being attacked, that state allows him to defend himself.
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Trayvon was seen on the ground ( With Zimmerman on top of him - and still without a gun) and heard screaming for someone to help him.
Doesn't sound like Zimmerman was in too much danger.
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I think that "right" is called - you lose. The right would only matter if he won.
It won't matter to the Court who the aggressor was; the unarmed man will be found not at fault. Which is not justice.
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O ye of little Faith. Only 11 pages to not answer my question? These guys can do WAY better'n that!
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