Gal 4 and Gal 5 and "under Law" explained without deleting God's Commandments

[listed]

Will you be saying that each time I insist that it is a 'sin' even for Christians to "take God's name in vain" since even in the NT - "Sin IS transgression of the LAW" -- 1 John 3:4

The details you refuse to pay attention to in your partial quote is in what you left out to prove your false doctrine. Your verse says also transgresses. It doesn't say only transgresses. Here's the complete verse and sentence:

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

1 John 2:1 "these things I write to you that you sin not"

Doesn't work very well does it since you don't keep the ten commandments, notably the 4th you hollar about so much.

Interesting creative writing ... Paul never says it - but you do. Paul gives his own definition for that term in Romans 3:19-20 as we all know by now.

Talk about creative writing. Your intention is Paul is saying we're obligated to the law when in fact he says we're dead to the law and we're now delivered from the law. That isn't my creative writing. I speak about Romans 6 and 7 which have been quoted for you more than once.

So once again - will you be saying that each time I insist that it is a 'sin' even for Christians to "take God's name in vain" since even in the NT - "Sin IS transgression of the LAW" -- 1 John 3:4

Where do you find me saying taking God's name in vain isn't sin? You're doing nothing more than trying to prove I keep part of the law. Simply isn't true. Sin was before the law, remember Romans 5:13. Oh yeah that's creative writing. So is Galatians 3:19 which says sin (transgression) is the reason the law came. It also says the law went.

1 John 2:1 "these things I write to you that you sin not"



It appears you are not paying enough attention to the detail in the posts.

What you're really saying is I don't believe and haven't converted to your church.

Not in real life. In real life my posts do not require falsely accusing anyone of anything.

No that's what you try to do. So require is correct. If it wasn't for your amending the 4th you wouldn't be keeping it either. The truth all see is you don't line up with the commandments in performance. This too has been discussed a few times.

I find your logic "illusive" just then since it is the details in scripture that I keep reminding you of in my posts.

As stated before ... it is still a "sin" even for Christians "to take God's name in vain" Exodus 20:7 and we all know it.

Yes it is.

The point remains.

What point? Christians are obligated to keep the law. Why do you refuse to believe the details the Scripture you won't discuss?

 

[BobRyan]

The details you refuse to pay attention to in your partial quote is in what you left out to prove your false doctrine. Your verse says also transgresses. It doesn't say only transgresses. Here's the complete verse and sentence:

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law:

A distinction without a difference.

"Sin IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4 even in the NT

So then -- it is "still a sin" -- to take God's name in vain Exodus 20:7 even for Christians.

for sin is the transgression of the law.Doesn't work very well does it

It works perfectly.

The point remains.

you don't keep the ten commandments, notably the 4th you hollar about so much

creative writing and false accusations -- not helping your case

Your intention is Paul is saying we're obligated to the law when in fact he says we're dead to the law and we're now delivered from the law.

Condemnation of the law .. read Romans 3:19-23

1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"
Rom 3:31 "do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith - God forbid! in fact we ESTABLISH the LAW of God"
Rev 14:12 'the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"
1 John 5:2-3 "This IS the Love of God that we KEEP His commandments"

As someone once posted

Why do you refuse to believe the details the Scripture you won't discuss?

 

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And only one of them mentioned by Christ in Matthew 19 when after Jesus said "KEEP the Commandments" and is asked "which ones" - answers with a list from the TEN Commandments (that does not include (do not take God's name in vain) - and end with the second commandment in your quote - completely omitting the first.

Just as Jesus points to SIX of the TEN commandments in Matthew 19.

Matthew 19
if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder;
You shall not commit adultery;
You shall not steal;
You shall not bear false witness;
19 Honor your father and mother; and
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

20 The young man *said to Him, “All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving

I deleted all the distractions of your post because I am only interested in Matthew 19 in your post.

Where do you mention what the man asked?

Did Jesus condemn the man?

Did Jesus show the man didn't keep the commandments?

Jesus didn't divide the stone tablets.

Jesus didn't mention the first commandment.

Jesus didn't mention the 4th commandment.

Jesus didn't quote the covet commandment.

If I quote the 4th commandment it condemns you for the same reason - non compliance.

Since you mentioned go and sell what you have and give it to the poor as Jesus required, are you in compliance with the words of Jesus? I think you ignore them. Why? You demand we listen to Moses and obey the law. Jesus is God.

All I'm asking here is for you to be in compliance with what you post.

 

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A distinction without a difference.

"Sin IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4 even in the NT

"Also" or "only?"

 

[BobRyan]

Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart"
Lev 19:18 "Love your neighbor as yourself"

Both of them from the LAW of Moses -- Deut 6:5 and Lev 19:18

And only one of them mentioned by Christ in Matthew 19 when after Jesus said "KEEP the Commandments" and is asked "which ones" - answers with a list from the TEN Commandments (that does not include (do not take God's name in vain) - and end with the second commandment in your quote - completely omitting the first.

Just as Jesus points to SIX of the TEN commandments in Matthew 19.

And as Paul reminds us -- the fifth commandment is the first commandment with a promise
In that unit of "TEN" - Eph 6:2

Yet - Not mentioned at all in Matthew 22.


Matthew 19
if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder;
You shall not commit adultery;
You shall not steal;
You shall not bear false witness;
19 Honor your father and mother; and
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

(all from Ten Commandments and from Lev 19:18 showing that Lev 19:18 does not delete the commandments founded upon it)

20 The young man *said to Him, “All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving

Notice that Paul says we must fulfill all that same list.

Notice Paul's focus on "fulfilling the law"

Romans 13
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet;
and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Same list - pre-cross and post-cross



Notice how in Romans 13 Paul does not say "don't worry about fulfilling the law" when using the "same list" Christ used?

That because born-again saved Christians have the LAW written on the heart under the NEW Covenant -- the SAME law.

I deleted all the distractions of your post because I am only interested in Matthew 19 in your post.

Fine - you have free will and can focus on any part you wish.

Where do you mention what the man asked?
Did Jesus condemn the man?
Did Jesus show the man didn't keep the commandments?
Jesus didn't divide the stone tablets.

1. Jesus quote from the Ten Commandments AND from Lev 19:18 proving that the command to love our neighbor does not delete the commandments in the TEN based on that foundation.

You keep ignoring that detail.. I keep bringing it up.

2. In Romans 13 the SAME list of commands are presented...and applied to Christians... irrefutable.

3. no change pre-cross or post-cross in that regard. You keep ignoring that detail.. I keep bringing it up.

Jesus didn't mention the first commandment.
Jesus didn't mention the 4th commandment.

Jesus did not mention "Love God with all your heart" Deut 6:5 or all the commandments in the TEN - based on that one. So yeah that means he did not mention "do not take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7

And your point?

He only mentioned "Love your neighbor" and all the commandments based on that one in the TEN.

Jesus didn't quote the covet commandment.

Already answered

20 The young man *said to Him, “All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving

That was addressing the sin of coveting wealth

Already pointed out to you.

 

[BobRyan]

Debating and discussing Scripture isn't your strong suit. .

yes... it is.

 

[mark58]

Matthew 19
if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder;
You shall not commit adultery;
You shall not steal;
You shall not bear false witness;
19 Honor your father and mother; and
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

(all from Ten Commandments and from Lev 19:18 showing that Lev 19:18 does not delete the commandments founded upon it)

.

I'm confused. You have repeatedly quoted Rom 3:19-21 as referring to the moral law primarily. I agree with you. Are you now saying heaven hinges on obeying the Ten Commandments? That must mean a persons righteousness/justification is obeying the law you agree no one can be justified by obeying

 

[BobRyan]

Jesus points to SIX of the TEN commandments in Matthew 19.

And as Paul reminds us -- the fifth commandment is the first commandment with a promise
In that unit of "TEN" - Eph 6:2

Yet - Not mentioned at all in Matthew 22.

Matthew 19
if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder;
You shall not commit adultery;
You shall not steal;
You shall not bear false witness;
19 Honor your father and mother; and
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

(all from Ten Commandments and from Lev 19:18 showing that Lev 19:18 does not delete the commandments founded upon it)

20 The young man *said to Him, “All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving

Notice that Paul says we must fulfill all that same list.

Notice Paul's focus on "fulfilling the law"

Romans 13
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet;
and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Same list - pre-cross and post-cross

Notice how in Romans 13 Paul does not say "don't worry about fulfilling the law" when using the "same list" Christ used?

That because born-again saved Christians have the LAW written on the heart under the NEW Covenant -- the SAME law.

I'm confused. You have repeatedly quoted Rom 3:19-21 as referring to the moral law primarily. I agree with you. Are you now saying heaven hinges on obeying the Ten Commandments? That must mean a persons righteousness/justification is obeying the law you agree no one can be justified by obeying

1. To be justified by law does not mean that you are a sinner who found a way to stop sinning. It means you had to have never sinned at all.

2. Rom 3:19-21 is the relationship that the lost have in regard to the LAW of God - including the command to not take God's name in vain. Ex 20:7. So then all mankind condemned to the lake of fire - 2nd death -- for "All have sinned" Rom 3:23

3. Rom 3:31 is the relationship that the saved have in regard to the LAW of God "do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the law" -- the former law-breaker now turned saint finds that because of the indwelling Holy Spirit "The Law is fulfilled in us who walk according to the Spirit" Rom 8:4-10

 

[mark58]

Jesus points to SIX of the TEN commandments in Matthew 19.

And as Paul reminds us -- the fifth commandment is the first commandment with a promise
In that unit of "TEN" - Eph 6:2

Yet - Not mentioned at all in Matthew 22.

Matthew 19
if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder;
You shall not commit adultery;
You shall not steal;
You shall not bear false witness;
19 Honor your father and mother; and
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

(all from Ten Commandments and from Lev 19:18 showing that Lev 19:18 does not delete the commandments founded upon it)

20 The young man *said to Him, “All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving

Notice that Paul says we must fulfill all that same list.

Notice Paul's focus on "fulfilling the law"

Romans 13
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet;
and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Same list - pre-cross and post-cross

Notice how in Romans 13 Paul does not say "don't worry about fulfilling the law" when using the "same list" Christ used?

That because born-again saved Christians have the LAW written on the heart under the NEW Covenant -- the SAME law.



1. To be justified by law does not mean that you are a sinner who found a way to stop sinning. It means you had to have never sinned at all.

2. Rom 3:19-21 is the relationship that the lost have in regard to the LAW of God - including the command to not take God's name in vain. Ex 20:7. So then all mankind condemned to the lake of fire - 2nd death -- for "All have sinned" Rom 3:23

3. Rom 3:31 is the relationship that the saved have in regard to the LAW of God "do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the law" -- the former law-breaker now turned saint finds that because of the indwelling Holy Spirit "The Law is fulfilled in us who walk according to the Spirit" Rom 8:4-10

Many times Paul writes to Christians telling them they are not under law/they are not justified/righteous by obeying the law. It certainly does refer to Christians

 

[mark58]

not having a righteousness/justification of my own that comes from the law,# but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith
Phil 3:9

I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!”
Gal2:21

ETC

 

[BobRyan]

1. To be justified by law does not mean that you are a sinner who found a way to stop sinning. It means you had to have never sinned at all.

2. Rom 3:19-21 is the relationship that the lost have in regard to the LAW of God - including the command to not take God's name in vain. Ex 20:7. So then all mankind condemned to the lake of fire - 2nd death -- for "All have sinned" Rom 3:23

3. Rom 3:31 is the relationship that the saved have in regard to the LAW of God "do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the law" -- the former law-breaker now turned saint finds that because of the indwelling Holy Spirit "The Law is fulfilled in us who walk according to the Spirit" Rom 8:4-10

As I just posted

Many times Paul writes to Christians telling them they are not under law

By which he means 'under the condemnation of the law' as he explained in Rom 3:19-21 where "All the world is guilty" and where "all have sinned" because the law of God defines what sin is - so all condemned to the 2nd death -- lake of fire.

And as I just posted that is not the relationship that the saved have to the Law. Rather in the case of the saved "The LAW is written on the heart" under the New Covenant. And also "do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the law" Rom 3:31

Thus it is a sin even for the saints of the NT 'to take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7

Rev 14:12 "the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"
1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is keeping the Commandments of God"
1 John 5:2-3 "this IS the Love of God that we KEEP His commandments"
Eph 6:2 "Honor your father and mother..for this is the first commandment WITH a promise" in that still valid TEN Commandment unit of LAW.

That is how the saved relate to the LAW of God -- it is not how the lost view it.


============= two groups... two views of the law of God

Rom 8
He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

The two groups clearly contrasted

9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.[

 

[mark58]

1. To be justified by law does not mean that you are a sinner who found a way to stop sinning. It means you had to have never sinned at all.

2. Rom 3:19-21 is the relationship that the lost have in regard to the LAW of God - including the command to not take God's name in vain. Ex 20:7. So then all mankind condemned to the lake of fire - 2nd death -- for "All have sinned" Rom 3:23

3. Rom 3:31 is the relationship that the saved have in regard to the LAW of God "do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the law" -- the former law-breaker now turned saint finds that because of the indwelling Holy Spirit "The Law is fulfilled in us who walk according to the Spirit" Rom 8:4-10

As I just posted




By which he means 'under the condemnation of the law' as he explained in Rom 3:19-21 where "All the world is guilty" and where "all have sinned" because the law of God defines what sin is - so all condemned to the 2nd death -- lake of fire.

And as I just posted that is not the relationship that the saved have to the Law. Rather in the case of the saved "The LAW is written on the heart" under the New Covenant. And also "do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the law" Rom 3:31

Thus it is a sin even for the saints of the NT 'to take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7

Rev 14:12 "the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"
1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is keeping the Commandments of God"
1 John 5:2-3 "this IS the Love of God that we KEEP His commandments"
Eph 6:2 "Honor your father and mother..for this is the first commandment WITH a promise" in that still valid TEN Commandment unit of LAW.

That is how the saved relate to the LAW of God -- it is not how the lost view it.


============= two groups... two views of the law of God

Rom 8
He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

The two groups clearly contrasted

9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.[

Yes, the saved have the law written on their hearts, agreed. What is the next verse?
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more.
Why?
Because the Christian is not under the law, in respect of righteousness/justification

 

[BobRyan]

Yes, the saved have the law written on their hearts, agreed. What is the next verse?
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more.

True that is how the Gospel works. Forgiveness of sins

Why?
Because the Christian is not under the law, in respect of righteousness/justification

Not under the condemnation of the LAW -- while at the same time the LAW is written on the heart of the Christian who then "establishes the LAW" Rom 3:31 by walking in the Spirit.

Thus it is a sin even for the saints of the NT 'to take God's name in vain" Ex 20:7

Rev 14:12 "the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus"
1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is keeping the Commandments of God"
1 John 5:2-3 "this IS the Love of God that we KEEP His commandments"
Eph 6:2 "Honor your father and mother..for this is the first commandment WITH a promise" in that still valid TEN Commandment unit of LAW.

It is not about "earning our way to heaven" it is about "a changed life" -- "By their fruits you shall know them" Matthew 7

 

[mark58]

True that is how the Gospel works. Forgiveness of sins



Not under the condemnation of the LAW -- while at the same time the LAW is written on the heart of the Christian who then "establishes the LAW" Rom 3:31 by walking in the Spirit.

But if Christians are not under the condemnation of the law, they cannot be guilty unto death for their shortcomings concerning that law

 

[BobRyan]

But if Christians are not under the condemnation of the law, they cannot be guilty unto death for their shortcomings concerning that law

That is not true logically. I am not under the condemnation of the laws of my state as a criminal - but that does not mean that by that reason alone -- I can never be condemned in the future as a criminal.

Matthew 18 - Christ teaches the law of "Forgiveness revoked" just as we see in in Ezek 18.

And in Romans 11 - again 'Forgiveness revoked".

In Gal 5:4 "you have been severed from Christ... you have fallen from grace"

1 Cor 6 Paul says "be not deceived" when instructing the saints in the church - about the deeds of those who will not be in heaven.

 

[mark58]

That is not true logically. I am not under the condemnation of the laws of my state as a criminal - but that does not mean that by that reason alone -- I can never be condemned in the future as a criminal.

Matthew 18 - Christ teaches the law of "Forgiveness revoked" just as we see in in Ezek 18.

And in Romans 11 - again 'Forgiveness revoked".

In Gal 5:4 "you have been severed from Christ... you have fallen from grace"

1 Cor 6 Paul says "be not deceived" when instructing the saints in the church - about the deeds of those who will not be in heaven.

If you are not under the condemnation of the law, it is impossible for you to be condemned according to your failure to obey that law

 

[BobRyan]

But if Christians are not under the condemnation of the law, they cannot be guilty unto death for their shortcomings concerning that law

That is not true logically. I am not under the condemnation of the laws of my state as a criminal - but that does not mean that by that reason alone -- I can never be condemned in the future as a criminal.

Matthew 18 - Christ teaches the law of "Forgiveness revoked" just as we see in in Ezek 18.

And in Romans 11 - again 'Forgiveness revoked".

In Gal 5:4 "you have been severed from Christ... you have fallen from grace"

1 Cor 6 Paul says "be not deceived" when instructing the saints in the church - about the deeds of those who will not be in heaven.

If you are not under the condemnation of the law, it is impossible for you to be condemned according to your failure to obey that law

Matthew 18 "I forgave you ALL that debt" -- fully forgiven
"I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33 Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’ 34 And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35 My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.”

In Gal 5:4 "you have been severed from Christ... you have fallen from grace"

Can't be "Severed from" Christ unless you were previously joined TO Christ.
Can't be "fallen FROM" grace - unless you were previously standing by Grace.

 

[listed]

Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart"
Lev 19:18 "Love your neighbor as yourself"

Both of them from the LAW of Moses -- Deut 6:5 and Lev 19:18

And only one of them mentioned by Christ in Matthew 19 when after Jesus said "KEEP the Commandments" and is asked "which ones" - answers with a list from the TEN Commandments (that does not include (do not take God's name in vain) - and end with the second commandment in your quote - completely omitting the first.

Just as Jesus points to SIX of the TEN commandments in Matthew 19.

And as Paul reminds us -- the fifth commandment is the first commandment with a promise
In that unit of "TEN" - Eph 6:2

Yet - Not mentioned at all in Matthew 22.


Matthew 19
if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder;
You shall not commit adultery;
You shall not steal;
You shall not bear false witness;
19 Honor your father and mother; and
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

(all from Ten Commandments and from Lev 19:18 showing that Lev 19:18 does not delete the commandments founded upon it)

20 The young man *said to Him, “All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving

Notice that Paul says we must fulfill all that same list.

Notice Paul's focus on "fulfilling the law"

Romans 13
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet;
and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Same list - pre-cross and post-cross

Cool! Now where does Paul say we must keep the sabbath?

 

[listed]

Jesus points to SIX of the TEN commandments in Matthew 19.

And as Paul reminds us -- the fifth commandment is the first commandment with a promise
In that unit of "TEN" - Eph 6:2

Yet - Not mentioned at all in Matthew 22.

Matthew 19
if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” 18 Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder;
You shall not commit adultery;
You shall not steal;
You shall not bear false witness;
19 Honor your father and mother; and
You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

(all from Ten Commandments and from Lev 19:18 showing that Lev 19:18 does not delete the commandments founded upon it)

20 The young man *said to Him, “All these things I have kept; what am I still lacking?” 21 Jesus said to him, “If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” 22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving

Notice that Paul says we must fulfill all that same list.

Notice Paul's focus on "fulfilling the law"

Romans 13
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
9 For this,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet;
and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Same list - pre-cross and post-cross

Notice how in Romans 13 Paul does not say "don't worry about fulfilling the law" when using the "same list" Christ used?

That because born-again saved Christians have the LAW written on the heart under the NEW Covenant -- the SAME law.



1. To be justified by law does not mean that you are a sinner who found a way to stop sinning. It means you had to have never sinned at all.

2. Rom 3:19-21 is the relationship that the lost have in regard to the LAW of God - including the command to not take God's name in vain. Ex 20:7. So then all mankind condemned to the lake of fire - 2nd death -- for "All have sinned" Rom 3:23

3. Rom 3:31 is the relationship that the saved have in regard to the LAW of God "do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the law" -- the former law-breaker now turned saint finds that because of the indwelling Holy Spirit "The Law is fulfilled in us who walk according to the Spirit" Rom 8:4-10

Where does Jesus say "keep the sabbath?"

 

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1. To be justified by law does not mean that you are a sinner who found a way to stop sinning. It means you had to have never sinned at all.

What are we justified by?