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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by A71, Jan 15, 2018.

  1. iamlamad

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    Just perhaps this Jesuit writing was studying the bible and came up with a future 70th week out of scripture! What a novel idea: Daniel's 70th week actually a part of our future.
     
  2. A71

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    I've not really studied Futurism IALAM.

    What events does it correlate from Revelation to occur in the week?
     
  3. Blade

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    "John wrote Revelation therefore because he is the prophetic successor of Daniel" where is this written..

    I see "deleted" and then the word "attack"... I must have missed that one. Where do you think this "Revelation" when we read His word comes from? Did we HAVE to wait for Revelation to be written to understand what is coming? I agree with the two.. to understand yet.. MANY more books are in this.
     
  4. John Prewett

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    The 'cashless society' has been predicted and discussed for decades. The 'cashless' society depends on modern computer - scanner compatible 'barcode' technology. To 'buy and sell' in the 'cashless society' one will have a scanner compatible computer chip (RFID chip) implanted in one's body.
    Many people are bright enough to see how this modern technology makes the Revelation "marking" not merely feasible ... but inevitable.

    Of course there will always be some pathetic people in deep denial .... as even now some are in denial of such basics as the existence of God.
    Denial that Jesus is Lord. Denial that the Vatican is the Great Whore and denial of most every other aspect of truth you can think of.
    When the Beast emerges publicly much (probably most) of the world will remain in denial that he is the Beast, and when the Rev 'marking' takes place, much (probably most) of the world will deny it is the Rev 'marking' and will take the 'mark'. Maybe shortly before entering the Lake of Fire they will realize their error.

    16 He causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead,
    17 so that no one may buy or sell, except he who has the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.
    Rev. 13

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    Radio-frequency identification - Wikipedia
     
  5. A71

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    Nowhere. What is your point?

    You did not miss much.It was irrelevant then and more so now, totally forgotten til you dragged it up.

    The revelation comes from understanding the book, is that too complex an idea for you?

    Yes.
     
  6. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  7. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  8. A71

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    Can you explain slowly for me vinsight please
     
  9. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  10. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  11. Original Happy Camper

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    I understand that you believe that the chip is the mark of the beast and that JFK is the beast.

    Does JFK fit the Bible requirements to be the Beast?
    1. In order to know what the "mark" is, we must first identify the beast. How does the Bible describe the beast?


    Answer: Revelation 13:1-8, 16-18provides 11 identifying characteristics. They are listed below:

    A. Rises from sea (verse 1).
    B. Composite of the four beasts of Daniel chapter 7 (verse 2).
    C. Dragon gives it power and authority (verse 2).
    D. Receives a deadly wound (verse 3).
    E. Deadly wound healed (verse 3).
    F. Strong political power (verses 3, 7).
    G. Strong religious power (verses 3, 8).
    H. Guilty of blasphemy (verses 1, 5, 6).
    I. Wars with and overcomes the saints (verse 7).
    J. Rules for 42 months (verse 5).
    K. Has mysterious number 666 (verse 18).
     
  12. John Prewett

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    The RFID chip is integral to the "mark of the Beast".
    17 so that no one may buy or sell, except he who has the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.
    So the chip is not quite all there is too it.

    Yes. JFK is the supreme Beast. Henry Kissinger is the subordinate Beast.

    No other human in history has fulfilled the supreme Beast requirement as has JFK.
    JFK UNIQUELY fulfills the Beast requirements.

    Revelation 17 also contains valuable clues.


    A: Isaiah 17:12 Woe to the multitude of many people who make a noise like the noise of the seas,
    and the rushing of many peoples who make a rumble like the rumbling of mighty waters!
    Indicates the supreme Beast is a Gentile.

    G: Rev 17:3 connects the supreme Beast with the Great Whore. Indicates the Beast was a Roman Catholic.

    K: There are two Beast in Rev 13 At verse 11 the Rev begins to describe the second (subordinate) Beast.
    666 pertains to this 2nd Beast. By simple formula in the world single most widespread language.
     
  13. Original Happy Camper

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    One of the Identifying characteristics of the beast is
    J. Rules for 42 months (verse 5).

    JFK does not meet this requirement (along with others)
    The presidency of John F. Kennedy, also known as the Kennedy Administration, began January 20, 1961, when John F. Kennedy was inaugurated as President of the United States, and ended on November 22, 1963, when he was assassinated, a span of 1,036 days.
    1036/30 =34.5 months not 42 months

    The 42 months (in prophecy a day represents a year) are not future they are in the past which allows us to look at history to identify the beast so we will be aware of the identity at the end of time. That is why the reformers were able to identify the Beast.
     
  14. John Prewett

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    42 months is the time JFK will rule after he emerges begins to reign. NOT his prior time as POTUS.

    The 42 months = 1260 year idea is bs. Best I recall it's SDAdventist bs.
     
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  15. A71

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    Thanks Doug, implemented
     
  16. A71

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    Since your remark, I realized I needed to put it in black and white OHC.

    1) Daniel's 70th week occured AD67-73. In the middle of the week the Temple was destroyed, as per Dan9:27

    2) Jerusalem and Judah were cursed for 1960 years, as per verse 27.

    3) That curse starts in AD70 for Jerusalem, but it is multiple points for the House Of Judah, i.e. Anytime from AD67-73.

    4) Therefore the curse ends in multiple points; i.e 2027-2033.

    5) We then see the second timeline from Revelation 4, of 1920 years, align perfectly with the point above, because it terminates 2026.

    6) However the 1920 years actually has two start points; 96AD and 106AD.

    This gives us also a second period of 17 years from 2017-2033.

    What is the significance of this? This is the time of the regathering of the Jews. This is shown in John21 when 153 fish are caught. If you count from 1-17, adding as you go, you sum at 153. 153 represents the Harvest of the Jews, i.e the 17 year period of ministry now begun.

    Blessings in Christ
     
  17. vinsight4u

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    /nvm
     
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  18. Original Happy Camper

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    Better study your Bible more and please drop the expletive as I do not believe that Jesus would use it. You are a representative of him are you not?

    The Day-Year Principle

    What is the day-year principle? Is it based on Scripture?
    The day-year principle says that one day in prophetic Scripture is equal to one year of actual time. For example, the 2300 days in the prophecy of Daniel 8 actually play out as 2300 years in history.

    Here are some verses in Scripture that point us to the day-year principle:

    According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, for each day you shall bear your guilt one year, namely forty years (Numbers 14:34 NKJV).

    I have appointed thee each day for a year (Ezekiel 4:6).

    Remember the days of old, consider the years of many generations: ask thy father, and he will shew thee; thy elders, and they will tell thee (Deuteronomy 32:7 emphasis added).

    There are three primary precedents in Scripture that show the day-year principle:

    1. Numbers 14:34. The Israelites will wander for 40 years in the wilderness, one year for every day spent by the spies in Canaan.
    2. Ezekiel 4:5-6. The prophet Ezekiel is commanded to lie on his left side for 390 days, followed by his right side for 40 days, to symbolize the equivalent number of years of punishment on Israel and Judah respectively.
    3. Daniel 9:24-27. This is known as the Prophecy of Seventy Weeks. Read about the 70-week prophecy here. The majority of scholars do understand the passage to refer to 70 "sevens" or "septets" of years—that is, a total of 490 years.
     
  19. Original Happy Camper

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    When did the seventy week prophecy start then?
     
  20. Original Happy Camper

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    When did the seventy week prophecy start then?
     
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