France Sees Rush To Get Vaccinated After Mandating Passports To Enter Restaurants, Malls, Airplanes

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France Sees Rush To Get Vaccinated After Mandating Passports To Enter Restaurants, Malls, Airplanes - FYI.com

I wish the US and the rest of the world would follow suit - this is a public health crisis and concern. Doing this allows people their freedom to choose whether to accept the vaccine or not while also accepting the consequences for their decision rather than foisting the unwanted consequences upon those of us who are doing what's good for the good of the community (local and global) by getting vaccinated.

You can see it as a statement on "American values", but the fact is that most of the people not getting the vaccination right now will gladly choose self-gratification from bars and restaurants over what they perceive to be their "freedoms", so we would see a similar record-breaking rush to get vaccinated. Most Americans will run right out to get vaccinated the second they hear about a vaccine passport such as the one France has.
 

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France Sees Rush To Get Vaccinated After Mandating Passports To Enter Restaurants, Malls, Airplanes - FYI.com

I wish the US and the rest of the world would follow suit - this is a public health crisis and concern. Doing this allows people their freedom to choose whether to accept the vaccine or not while also accepting the consequences for their decision rather than foisting the unwanted consequences upon those of us who are doing what's good for the good of the community (local and global) by getting vaccinated.

You can see it as a statement on "American values", but the fact is that most of the people not getting the vaccination right now will gladly choose self-gratification from bars and restaurants over what they perceive to be their "freedoms", so we would see a similar record-breaking rush to get vaccinated. Most Americans will run right out to get vaccinated the second they hear about a vaccine passport such as the one France has.
I disagree. Christ tells us that in the Last Days that there will be a Remnant left, who will refuse to bow down.
But let me ask anyone here a question:
What is so great about living every day under such governmental control, that can't be better living under God?
 
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Good excuse to consume less. Plus it's not like you can't order takeout or get your things delivered.

I agree, but let's not kid ourselves. The powers want compliance and that will eventually lead to force or execution. "For the good of society", of course.
 
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Why should any Christian be so afraid of dying???
We know that God is Supreme, and that nothing can happen that He doesn't know about. Our every day is known to Him; both our coming in and out going out are under His control.
We've seen in the OT that one King asked for extra time on Earth, and it was granted to him. But I would not want to be in that man's shoes ever!
 
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As long as you stay in Texas and don't come anywhere near me or those I care about, I can live with that.

Well hast thou lessoned me, this shall I do. And you extend me the same courtesy.
 
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Lord, thank you that I live in Texas!
Colorado represent. Unfortunately we're a blue state but hopefully the population here still has the sense to look at the numbers.
 
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the last 6 or so years have been so fascinating watching the supposed moral majority and pro life groups becoming obviously immoral anti life groups.
How are they any more immoral than anyone else?
 
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Lord, thank you that I live in Texas!
I kinda get it why Texans are glad to live there. Texas gets to boast how they don't want socialism and don't want to give their money to others etc. etc. etc. with the full knowledge and assurance that when their conservative policies lead to financial and social ruin the federal government (i.e. OTHER states which are blue states) will bail them out of their mess. It's a sweet deal but a lot of us have caught on to it...

And this is why it will be good to have a vaccine passport for the entire US, so that people who have the Texas outlook will not be able to escape the consequences of their decision to vaccinate or not. The vaccine passport needs to be applied at the federal level for all states.

The only thing saving non-vaxxers from making this choice is that Biden is very conservative about these kinds of things.
 
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the last 6 or so years have been so fascinating watching the supposed moral majority and pro life groups becoming obviously immoral anti life groups.
You really think there was a change?
 
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I disagree. Christ tells us that in the Last Days that there will be a Remnant left, who will refuse to bow down.
There is no bowing down involved in getting vaccinated, none whatsoever., so I don't know how you connect the Last Days to a vaccine. As a Christian, I praise and thank God for providing us with the blessings that modern medical science brings us because these are gifts from God Himself.

But let me ask anyone here a question:
What is so great about living every day under such governmental control, that can't be better living under God?
What's so great about it is that your personal rights and safety are protected. For example, what's so great about the governmental control over drinking and driving? Do you believe that it's tyranny that the government forbids drunk driving and anyone who disobeys is punished severely, even with jail time? No, that's not tyranny, that's holding people accountable for their actions and how their actions harm other people and society in general. Same goes for vaccinations.

Why do you think children are required to get certain vaccinations before they're allowed in school? Have you ever complained about that as tyranny? Or are you only considering the Covid vaccine to be some kind of unbearable "governmental control" because it fits your chosen political agenda?

And by the way, the "governmental control" you are asking about is not different from living under God; in fact, it IS living under God and in obedience to Him. God teaches us that earthly governmental authority is from HIM and that they are ordained ministers of His Justice unto us. You really don't want to go against that, and He tells us why. Oh, and He also tells us that paying taxes is part of His command to us.
 
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How are they any more immoral than anyone else?
Many of them add blasphemy to their immorality by falsely claiming God and His Word as the basis for their immorality.
 
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Many of them add blasphemy to their immorality by falsely claiming God and His Word as the basis for their immorality.
Immorality such as what? Not getting the vaccine? That's immoral?
 
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Why should any Christian be so afraid of dying???
This sounds like a justification for drug abuse, alcoholism, gluttony/obesity, smoking, body mutliation, etc. and even suicide. Why not do any of those things, I mean, why should a Christian be so afraid of dying?

If the body is the Temple of the Holy Spirit and you're supposed to take care of itthen how is risking or getting Covid something good for the body?

We know that God is Supreme, and that nothing can happen that He doesn't know about. Our every day is known to Him; both our coming in and out going out are under His control.
We've seen in the OT that one King asked for extra time on Earth, and it was granted to him. But I would not want to be in that man's shoes ever!
Some of us want more time on earth because we can serve Him longer that way. Also, life is a blessing from God - life is good, despite all the evils in our world. God's beauty shines through in this sin-filled world and we are blessed to be able to praise and thank Him each day.

Considering how Good God is to us, how abundantly He blesses us and how great the life that He has given us is, my question is why WOULDN'T anyone want more days on earth?
 
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Immorality such as what? Not getting the vaccine? That's immoral?
Idolatry and selfishness (same thing, basically). Vaccines are not addressed in the Bible. Caring for others, putting others before ourselves in a sacrificial manner as Christ put our lives before His by His Sacrifice is what we are taught and immorality is doing the opposite.

Many who don't want the vaccine think in terms of "what about ME? what will it do to ME? what about what I want??" rather than "What about the elderly, the sick (those with other co-morbidities), those who can't get vaccinated, those who must work with the public, pregnant women, children, the poor and disadvantaged, shouldn't I get vaccinated for THEIR sake even though I don't WANT to???" Is that immoral? I think in the majority of cases it is putting one's desires above the needs of others which the Bible teaches against. That's what a lot of the anti-vaxxers tell me - they tell me it's about "MY freedoms, MY rights, MY life, MY body", etc. and it's never about society, others, neighbors, etc.
 
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Idolatry and selfishness (same thing, basically). Vaccines are not addressed in the Bible. Caring for others, putting others before ourselves in a sacrificial manner as Christ put our lives before His by His Sacrifice is what we are taught and immorality is doing the opposite.

Many who don't want the vaccine think in terms of "what about ME? what will it do to ME? what about what I want??" rather than "What about the elderly, the sick (those with other co-morbidities), those who can't get vaccinated, those who must work with the public, pregnant women, children, the poor and disadvantaged, shouldn't I get vaccinated for THEIR sake even though I don't WANT to???" Is that immoral? I think in the majority of cases it is putting one's desires above the needs of others which the Bible teaches against. That's what a lot of the anti-vaxxers tell me - they tell me it's about "MY freedoms, MY rights, MY life, MY body", etc. and it's never about society, others, neighbors, etc.

Are you pro-choice?
 
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