The problem with GA is that it had a record of more deconversions than conversions. Instead of reaching the lost for Christ the forum tended to shatter the faith of Christians who were not prepared to debate in that forum.
Thats often because the responses they receive are evasive and dont actually answer or even address the question that was asked. Other Christian responses in GA are simply unsupported assertions, errors, logical fallacies or misapprehensions that dont provide reasonable answers to questions. Is it any wonder that people who are looking seriously for answers to their questions repeat them in the hope that someone will eventually provide a reasonable answer?
I originally posted in Questions for Non-Christians and was reported several times for entering into a debate with respondents. The rules were such that non-Christians just had to accept the Christian responses as true and final. There, evasive answers and unsupported assertions were treated as valid responses and no debate over them was to be permitted. Is that same policy going to apply to this new Exploring Christianity forum?
Just curious. Will we still be able to access our profiles of our past threads and posts we started or will they be removed?
That would be a real bummer if I can't access all the threads I posted. I'd like to keep those.
Because of the way many of the Christians there treat not only non-christians and those questioning their faith, but also each other. It has nothing to do with Christians not being prepared to debate their faith with non-theists.
I'm bracing myself for the next round of closures. I'm almost certain that NCR will be closed next. I sure wouldn't want anyone getting the wrong idea that a religion other than Christianity has positive aspects to it. Then what? Ethics & Morality? Will Politics be moved to the CO section? Will Life Stages be made CO again?
I don't know why I came back. CF has only got worse. When Erwin owned this site not only did I feel tolerated, I felt that my presence here, regardless of religious affiliation, was an asset.
We still haven't got the message that if you want to engage in mission you need to meet people in formats that suit them, not ones that suit us; to listen to them, not tell them what to do?No, I think that the main difference between Questions for Non-Christians and this new forum is that discussion of the replies and development of the ideas discussed will be encouraged rather than shut down.
No, I think that the main difference between Questions for Non-Christians and this new forum is that discussion of the replies and development of the ideas discussed will be encouraged rather than shut down.
Posted right on the new forum : "Exploring Christianity A Forum for Non Christians to explore Christianity with Christians. No Debating or Apologetics Allowed."
Debate will still not be allowed and it will still not be an apologetic forum.
I hope this will allow any discussion to develop fairly freely.It is acceptable for the Original Poster (OP) to probe the answers given, and to continue the discussion on lines which help to clarify their understanding of the Christian faith.
I dont share your hope. The banner at the top of QNC reads: This forum is NOT for Apologetics or debates. whereas the banner at the top of the new forum reads: No Debating or Apologetics Allowed. If anything, the new forum warning seems stronger. Time will tell.I hope this will allow any discussion to develop fairly freely.
sold out........traitor.....Repent!....Erwin really screwed up when he sold this site...not that he sold it, but in who he sold it to.
I dont share your hope. The banner at the top of QNC reads: This forum is NOT for Apologetics or debates. whereas the banner at the top of the new forum reads: No Debating or Apologetics Allowed. If anything, the new forum warning seems stronger. Time will tell.
Indeed it will. I know that apologetics as such is not allowed, but there is a fine line between discussion and debate, and I think that as long as things remain civil, honest questioning is fine, and I hope that it will be a venue where Christians are willing to recognise and discuss the hard questions, rather than evading them in favour of the 'smart' or, frankly, trite replies which have often characterised GA.
Greetings. But did it help convert ya to JESUSAs a seeker after truth, I have received considerable help from Christians through General Apologetics.
It is sad that the effectiveness of CF in reaching non-Christians and potentially leading them to Christ is to be reduced simply because of a dislike for debate.
This thread is rapidly brinking on the edge of being closed.
I would advise everyone to dial it back.
I don't think there are threats, just asking everyone to please be calmWhat is it with the threats? You want to close it, close it. You want to ban someone, ban someone. You want to seek the truth, seek the truth. You have the power!
I know what you mean...I would hate for that to happen, there are lots of wonderful Non-Christians here at CF, and to lose them would be awful[serious];49141426 said:I can't help but think NCR is next on the block. Possibly C&E.
I don't think there are threats, just asking everyone to please be calm
I know what you mean...I would hate for that to happen, there are lots of wonderful Non-Christians here at CF, and to lose them would be awful
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