Foru.ms - a new beginning and a fresh start

[Mary_Magdalene]

Ok, that ticked me off lol.

He didnt rob you of anything. He owns it. How rude can you be? He payed for CF, and he payed for the new domain name.

actually, no. The SITE SUPPORTERS paid for all of this. People who have put money in Erwins pocket for a CHRISTIAN forum.

 

[JimfromOhio]

Respectfully my friend I don't remember you making the same argument on 777. Actually unless I remember incorrectly you were very in favor of those changes. Those of course came about because of "whining" as well.

Yes... after seeing what Erwin went through.

 

[cygnusx1]

Sing on brother. Play on drummer.

Hendrix said that at the end of one of his songs ......

 

[mesue]

I didn't come to the wells of the world seeking deliverance.

I came to the place they said CHRIST could be found.

Daimonizomai have no interest in the mundane.

If you have Jesus Christ in your heart, then He is found already.

 

[The Princess Bride]

T'would appear all the poll's and WIKI's were to no avail.

And now, even the Faith based forums on a "christian" site have been moved to the bottom.

 

[JimfromOhio]

what i would like to know is why would the owner of this board profess to be Christian, only to make this board secular?

What is the motivation?

I havent seen 1 word answering this very valid question. I've seen a lot of hem-hawing and thats it.

I personally wonder if Erwin IS or ever WAS a christian or part of an intentional undermining of the church

Whats the motivation erwin? Money?

Do you have more atheistic and wiccan supporters than Christian supporters? Whats up?

I know many Christians who owns secular organizatoins, businesses and ministries. So, Erwin is not alone in this department.

 

[Nadiine]

After watching Christians whining around CF for the past few years, what can Erwin do? Christians whine and he is only one person. Self-governing is the only solution. If Christians didn't whine and actually helped Erwin solve whining issues.

AGain Jim, Noone's against him for CHANGE, the issue is WHICH DIRECTION HE CHANGED IT TO.
That's the operative issue.

He could have easily made some alterations to definitions and stopped alot of the Christian complaining (and alot of the Christian complaints WERE VALID - I know some great believers that left after getting warnings for preaching TRUTH here).
Instead, it's wide open now and watered down w/ a more secular flavor.

I see your point and agree, however, there is some ONUS to Erwin in this drastic decision in going this far the other direction!

SUNMESSENGER: - i AGREE, ERWIN CHOSE THE WAY HIS HEART LED HIM TO GO in this change.

 

[Brimshack]

yES, ATHEISTS ARE SALIVATING AT THIS.

Do you have ONE SHRED of evidence that this statement is true. It wasn't Atheists that initiated the last round of reforms, and it certainly wasn't us that initiated the call to take away the name. That call began in the Conservative Christian forum here on this site. It was Christians pressing for the name change, not unbelievers. If you don't believe me, go read the polls.

Folks need to stop blaming us every time something happens around here that you don't like. People who make claims like this have no idea what we want, not the least of reasons being that you so rarely check to see what we have to say about anything. We're just boogie-men for your stories.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

From my perspective it seems the whole "uniting all Christians" was impossible.

It isn't. ALL that is required to do so is to eliminate the following attitude entirely:

The Christians here were so bent on grouping people as "true Christians" and not "true Christians".

There can be no unity where everyone is seeking whom to exclude.
Therefore the only way this vision could be fulfilled was in the atmosphere of open, honest inquiry and exchange, each respecting another, each in the certainty that TRUTH WILL OUT, that is, that the Divine One is more than capable of guarding His Truth and seeing to it that through the process HE lays out -- one of Love and compassion and embracing one another in Him -- it could and would do so.

Christianity can not and never will be united. Not because people don't dream of unity but because Christians clearly are counter productive regarding such a noble endeavor.

Nail, head, bang. Revelation 13 baby.

 

[Stormy]

I am shocked but not surprised.

The site is much more sale-able now Erwin give it a few months and all those Bible believing Christians will go away and then you will have something worth selling.

Not to worry there are places to go

http:://www.conservative-christian-forums.com

http://www.christcenteredforums.com

http://www.carm.org

http://www.fresh-hope.com

http://hisholyspace.com

I encourage all Christians of good faith to go to these places to fellowship.

BTW Yes I am a principle at http://www.conservative-christian-forums.com and before a mod takes and removes that link your rules say I need a pecuniary interest in the site. CCF is free and we DO NOT accept donations. We would rather you feed the hungry and clothe the naked in your own community.


Praying for your soul Erwin. Blow the dust off your Bible there is something there you need to see:

Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.


Pastor George

excellent post. i agree with everything you said, and thanks for the links.

i especially was impressed with this statement....

CCF is free and we DO NOT accept donations. We would rather you feed the hungry and clothe the naked in your own community.

wow

 

[Time2BCounted]

you sir are not 'Christ'

you sir are the world

 

[ladyt28]

I came here for Christian fellowship after my stepson died. I was not looking for a "social network". I do not want my blog on a site that no longer claims Christ in it's name.

And BTW - someone said that Erwin used $7000 to buy this site name - that was money from the Site Supporters and I did not contribute to be betrayed like this!!

This is a new beginning that will probably make me look elsewhere for Christian fellowship as I have all of the secular world I care to participate in.

 

[SunMessenger]

After watching Christians whining around CF for the past few years, what can Erwin do? Christians whine and he is only one person. Self-governing is the only solution. If Christians didn't whine and actually helped Erwin solve whining issues.

You do not know what you are talking about. I have viewed this place from the inside and out. To believe your analogy I would need to believe the man was simply stupid. I may not like these moves but I would not call him stupid in any way. He is smart as a fox maybe. I do not know. Time will tell. The truth always comes out in time and there is much more here than meets the eye...

Sun

 

[JimfromOhio]

From my perspective it seems the whole "uniting all Christians" was impossible.

The Christians here were so bent on grouping people as "true Christians" and not "true Christians".

If this started out as a dream to unite the reality seems to have set in. Christianity can not and never will be united. Not because people don't dream of unity but because Christians clearly are counter productive regarding such a noble endeavor.

I don't think this has anything to do with trying to appeal to these people or those people it was a unattainable dream. And this becomes obvious when reading the posts by Christians.

I agree with that observation. There are some who seem to look on the gloomy side and never able to do respond in faith CF's problems, instead, they grumble about the issues that they forget God's powerful grace.

 

[Zugzwang]

Okay, so if this is more community oriented now, where was the poll to take Christ out of the domain name?

Did I miss it?

And what kind of christian would even argue for that?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

alot of the Christian complaints WERE VALID - I know some great believers that left after getting warnings for preaching TRUTH here

Yup, I was one of them. Truth was deemed "heresy" because it exceeded that which could be comprehended on the spiritual equivalent of the kindergarten level. I left for a time. I came back post-7/7/7 and found all this.

 

[Jere209]

Signed by an atheist. At least bring back the name

Need there be anything more said?

 

[Lisa0315]

Christ: In the world, not of the world
Erwin: In the world, of the world, for the world

 

[Chalnoth]

you sir are not 'Christ'

you sir are the world

Seriously? I didn't think I was that big.

Or were you talking about somebody else?

 

[Tychicus2]

Hi everyone

Yes, as you can see, Christian Forums is now called Foru.ms, and the new web address is the same as the name, "foru.ms" - short, simple and to the point.

This name change has been suggested to me by several members and is in line with the recent changes to the direction of the website.

In summary:

Name:
Foru.ms

Slogan:
Forums-based Social Networking For You

Vision:
An online forums-based self-governing social networking community guided by Christian principles for everyone.

Mission:

1. To establish and grow a self-governing community that is open to everyone guided by rules driven by Christian principles which are collaboratively agreed upon by all members, keeping in mind:
Gal 5:22-23 GNT But the Spirit produces love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, and self-control. There is no law against such things as these.

2. To provide a meeting place for Christians to fellowship with one another and outreach to non-Christians, keeping in mind:
2 Cor 5:17-18 GNT Anyone who is joined to Christ is a new being; the old is gone, the new has come. All this is done by God, who through Christ changed us from enemies into his friends and gave us the task of making others his friends also.

The above statements summarises the new direction and vision of the site.

What does it all mean?

1. It means that all members will be given the power to self-govern by collaboratively working together with coming up with the rules for this whole community, including voting for their own moderators.

2. It means that members who want their particular forums to have certain restrictions may do as this is part of self-governance. Sub-forums members will be able to develop their own rules and choose their own moderators.

3. It means that this site will be continue to be open to people from all backgrounds and give them the opportunity to interact.

From a practical point of view, everything should really function as before prior to the name and vision change, except that now we have a much broader vision and goal than before.

Thank you for all your patience. It's 12:30 am here now and I have an all-day medical conference tomorrow (yes, on Sunday) to attend so I need to sleep - I hope to check up on Foru.ms to ensure everything is going okay.

Feel free to discuss this change in this thread.

I don't believe it WILL or even CAN Work...

All you have succeeded in doing is subtracting Christian from Christian Forums...

Christian Self Governance is ONLY posssible for Christians by definition... to hope otherwise is complete and utter foolishiness... Want verses???

You come to your senses sooner rather than later...

Glad to know you still own it... But if it is Really Christ's Forum it will show...

Staying for now, but this is a HUGE disappointment Erwin...

My .02

God Bless,

Ty