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For those who argue for the omnibenevolence of God…

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What comes up in these discussions I mostly find irrelevant. I serve a Holy God of Justice, and see no conflict with John proclaiming "God is Love", and accepting the requirements of how that same God of Love acts toward those who hold Him in contempt by rejecting the offer of forgiveness that could only be obtained by the sacrifice of His Son to meet the required standards of His holiness. Jesus made it clear that there are those who will choose darkness over light. I accept His judgment as Just. As David Crowder wrote in a song "He is Jealous for me".
Ex 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
Do you think God hates anyone?
 
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Jonah 4:10 But the Lord said, “You have been concerned about this plant, though you did not tend it or make it grow. It sprang up overnight and died overnight. 11 And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left—and also many animals?”

Was God concerned for some Gentiles in Nineveh, enough for some to be saved?
More so than in Canaan.
 
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More so than in Canaan.
So, you see God as having "degrees" of concern and not being consistent (just)?
You keep harping on the idea of God killing people as if death is unloving, but everyone dies (if Christ does not come first), so is God unloving to everyone? Is physical death unloving?
 
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Do you think God hates anyone?
You would have to ask Him. His thoughts are not my thoughts.
I'll ask you a question, when Aaron's sons were consumed by holy fire
when they offered strange incense before the Lord's presence, was it
an act of hate, or an expression of His holiness, as I have already stated?
 
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You say you know what Omni means, but your posts don’t actually read that what. So let me ask this. How is God loving to those people in Canaan who were wiped out? Or those in Sodom who were destroyed? Or those who perished in the flood?
Per the following earlier exchange on this thread, you leaked your true goal in this thread. The error in your method is that you conflate the expression of God's wrath with God not desiring to save those people or not loving those people as much as the saved. People have a free will and can make choices that ultimately lead to their own damnation - God does not force or decree the choices we make. Take 1 Timothy 2:4 by faith.

Romans 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,​
Then what is it exactly that you are trying to say?
That the idea that God loves everyone equally and tries to save everyone is not found in scripture as a whole.
 
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So, you see God as having "degrees" of concern and not being consistent (just)?
No.
You keep harping on the idea of God killing people as if death is unloving, but everyone dies (if Christ does not come first), so is God unloving to everyone?
No, some He actually saves from the second death.
Is physical death unloving?
That depends on the reason.
 
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You would have to ask Him. His thoughts are not my thoughts.
Except when He tells us.

The boastful shall not stand before Your eyes;
You hate all who do iniquity.
— Psalm 5:5
I'll ask you a question, when Aaron's sons were consumed by holy fire
when they offered strange incense before the Lord's presence, was it
an act of hate, or an expression of His holiness, as I have already stated?
See above.
 
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Per the following earlier exchange on this thread, you leaked your true goal in this thread. The error in your method is that you conflate the expression of God's wrath with God not desiring to save those people or not loving those people as much as the saved. People have a free will and can make choices that ultimately lead to their own damnation - God does not force or decree the choices we make. Take 1 Timothy 2:4 by faith.

Romans 1:18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,​
I leaked my true goal.

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So, God Loved the Canaanites as much as He Loved the Ninevites. So, were some Canaanites saved like some Ninevites were saved, because he showed great concern for some Ninevites?
No, some He actually saves from the second death.
You did not answer the questions: is God unloving because of physical death?
That depends on the reason.
What reason would there be for physical death to be Loving and not Loving?
 
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So, God Loved the Canaanites as much as He Loved the Ninevites.
No. They received judgment when the Israelites came into the land and were commanded to wipe out every single person.
So, were some Canaanites saved like some Ninevites were saved, because he showed great concern for some Ninevites?
Some Canaanites may not have been killed, but that was because of Israel’s disobedience. Seriously, have you ever ready the first six books of the Bible?
 
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Not without going way off topic.
Why go way off topic, when you are the one that posted the OP?

There is no black and white answer to your question and most of those replying to your OP are making an effort to show you God’s Sovereignty, Majesty, Righteousness, grace, love, holiness, etc., in relation to your OP.

My first few responses were met with a one liner from you as if you never read what I wrote, and that goes for the rest of the replies to you OP.

You finally used Psalm 137:9 KJV, to try and say God was not all loving; and when I replied that Psalm 137:9 KJV related to Esau and Esau’s ultimate punishment at Christ’s return for their wrong committed against Jacob, you first said the scripture did not relate to Esau. When I then proved Psalm 137:9 KJV was speaking about Esau, you ignored further scripture proof, and replied with another one liner to say the scriptures I listed, which included Obadiah to explain Psalm 137:9 KJV, was not dealing with the end times.

What’s not being recognized is your OP about God not having an all loving nature has to be addressed showing sound scripture about Gods nature and justice, which must include examples from the Old and New Testament, unless you are asking people to give their own opinion about God. But, no true believer will do that because that would be man giving an assessment about God, and man does not have that right. Gods says because there is no greater (to swear by), He swears by Himself, Hebrews 6:13 KJV. Also Isaiah 45:23 KJV. You see? I hope you do.

Nevertheless, why ask a question in you original OP, and discount what others say, and when you are asked to provide a better understanding relating to one of your responses, you throw a monkey wrench in the mix and say it will go off topic? But the topic is yours, right?

You must admit yourself that you have ignored most of the replies to your OP, challenged with “one liners” without making yourself clear, and now you refuse to give us sound doctrine when asked.

Who does that? You know!
 
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No. They received judgment when the Israelites came into the land and were commanded to wipe out every single person.

Some Canaanites may not have been killed, but that was because of Israel’s disobedience. Seriously, have you ever ready the first six books of the Bible?
As I remember: "drive them out before you" is commanded three times more often, than kill them that remain. God was patient with the Canaanites for 400 years, but their wickedness increased, Can you find an account of Jews cutting babies heads off, so what did actually physically happened? After seven days were all the people on the walls of Jericoh laughing at the Jews?
 
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Why not be transparent? We all knew what this thread was about from the start (iobserve the first responder who nailed it). But you initially dodged admitting your true purpose only to admit it in Post 26. Calvin paints God as predestinating the bulk of humanity to hell before they are born. Non-Calvinists find that abhorrent.
 
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