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I don't have any issues with the garden snakes that sometimes take shortcuts through they backyard, 'cause they don't like when I go back ther, and take off! I just don't answer anyone speaking another language, and they understand I don't know it from that (working hotels like I do, I get more than one language). They generally just switch to English after that. My Spanish is bad too, but I'd like to learn it for travel purposes. I'm not a fan of spiders 'cause I kept cleaning the webs off my front door, and the bite that's still healing on my arm. Doc said it was a good thing it wasn't anything major. Not sure if I'd like snakes in the garage.... :(
 
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Those wolf spiders are something, aren't they? I hate it when they re-arrange my furniture while I'm sleeping and I trip over a chair in the dark.

LOL!

I put down the large glue traps (the small ones don't seem to work) with a dab of peanut butter in the center, and it catches spiders and roaches like magic!

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One year we got back to FL in November and there was a HUGE snake skin on the floor of our FL room. I have no idea how he got in. Fortunately I never ever saw him or I'd be moving to Ireland!

Wow! That would freak me out!

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I'm not a fan of spiders 'cause I kept cleaning the webs off my front door, and the bite that's still healing on my arm.

I HATE that! In Miami, the only spider webs were outside among the trees and bushes. Here, there are spider webs all over the outside windows, all around the pump house, in my garage, in my screened-in porch, new ones on the front porch every day, and even in the house! And I've gotten bitten a few times, which developed blisters that popped! I NEVER had to worry about spider bites in Miami!

Gotta turn this computer off. Thunder storm outside, and that sometimes means the electricity goes off...
 
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OK, I've been saying a whole lot of negative things so far, so I want to say something positive this time.

About 2 years ago, I drove down to Miami for a weekend, in order to visit 2 friends. One friend was my former Pastor. I stayed at his house, and went with him and his wife to a Latin birthday party on the other block (after we came home from the party about 11 or 12 pm, I couldn't sleep, because the music was still playing, and it was really loud...at the party, they had kept trying to talk us out of leaving, because they said the party was just getting started...but the whole pig they had was really good, as was all the other food they had). I also spent part of the time going to my goddaughter's birthday party, who is the daughter of my other friend I went to see.

However, the really cool thing was this: on the way down, I stopped at every Welcome Center and handed out gospel tracts to people, or put them in restrooms. I was praying the entire time. In Miami, I gave Spanish gospel tracts to people. Giving out tracts like that made the whole trip worth it, just from that alone. It took me 2 or 3 hours longer to drive down there because of that, but it was worth it. This one Hispanic woman acted very grateful that I gave it to her, and she stood there reading it aloud, in Spanish, while she was still standing in front of me. That was cool. At one restroom, I cut my finger, and was bleeding all over the place. I thought to myself, "Oh, no, now I can't hand out tracts anymore, because they will have blood all over them!" But then I thought, "Hey, I can use that to talk about the blood of Jesus!" But then, because of people being afraid of all kinds of diseases carried via blood (though I don't have any of them), I decided against that. Instead, I just used my other hand to give them out.

(As is typical of this area, the thunderstorm has now passed over. There were a few times that lights blinked, but they never went off. Yay! I'm tired of re-setting my clocks all the time! Of course, most of my clocks now are battery-operated because of that problem, but I still have a few that are not.)
 
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Those wolf spiders are something, aren't they? I hate it when they re-arrange my furniture while I'm sleeping and I trip over a chair in the dark. :eek:
ROFL

One year we got back to FL in November and there was a HUGE snake skin on the floor of our FL room. I have no idea how he got in. Fortunately I never ever saw him or I'd be moving to Ireland! :p

Seriously?!?! :eek: :swoon:
 
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Know what really annoys me? When people move here out of their own free will, because they came here once or twice on vacation and then thought “hey it’s nice here lets live here” and then when they do they are miserable and complain about everything.

I took the kids out for lunch today and these people sitting behind me were doing nothing but complaining. From what I heard this family use to come down every winter on vacation and when the hubby was offered a position down here they jumped on it thinking they had found paradise—but then they found out about the bugs, and the thunderstorms everyday during summer, the heat, the threat of hurricanes, the rest of the wildlife—they just kept going on and on. I don’t understand why such people bother staying. It was really annoying to listen too, and of course they were speaking loud enough for the whole restaurant to hear. I was so tempted to turn around and say “shut up or move, but let the rest of us eat in peace.” I should have, but I hate to be rude like that even if they were rude as well.
 
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Know what really annoys me? When people move here out of their own free will, because they came here once or twice on vacation and then thought “hey it’s nice here lets live here” and then when they do they are miserable and complain about everything.

I took the kids out for lunch today and these people sitting behind me were doing nothing but complaining. From what I heard this family use to come down every winter on vacation and when the hubby was offered a position down here they jumped on it thinking they had found paradise—but then they found out about the bugs, and the thunderstorms everyday during summer, the heat, the threat of hurricanes, the rest of the wildlife—they just kept going on and on. I don’t understand why such people bother staying. It was really annoying to listen too, and of course they were speaking loud enough for the whole restaurant to hear. I was so tempted to turn around and say “shut up or move, but let the rest of us eat in peace.” I should have, but I hate to be rude like that even if they were rude as well.

I can relate to hearing that!!
And where we are it's not a metropolis area more touristy & so the pay here is not that good. And we have lots of military around us too.
 
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[SIZE=4 said:
ContentInHim[/SIZE]]I like your heart, Live4Him!

Thank you! The positive things I've said (and done) come from the Jesus in me. The negative things I've said come from the flesh.

moonkitty said:
Know what really annoys me? When people move here out of their own free will, because they came here once or twice on vacation and then thought “hey it’s nice here lets live here” and then when they do they are miserable and complain about everything.

I guess its human nature to complain. As you can see, even though I am much, MUCH happier living in Ocala than I was in Miami, I still find time to complain about the spiders and insects, which seem bigger and more numerous here. Of course, I'm at least partially doing it in fun, to be funny...but sharing frustrations at the same time.

But when people move somewhere voluntarily and start complaining about it, it can definitely be annoying. Years ago, I attended Bob Jones University in South Carolina, and saw snow for the first time in my entire life. Even though it was only about 1/2 inch or so, the sight of falling snow, and branches encased in ice, and snow on the ground, fascinated me, and I thought that was the most incredible thing I had ever seen. Then, someone from Michigan said something like, "People that get excited over this little bit of snow are so stupid. This ain't snow! They don't know what snow is!" I know that I shouldn't let a little comment like that get to me, but ever since then, I felt like a fool for falling in love with snow like that, and I have never wanted to see snow again...and I haven't. The thought of snow only brings back the memory of that comment, and I don't care to ever see it again. I know I should get over it, but my point is that people complaining about things like that can ruin things for you.

Of course, for me, I get sinus headaches when the weather changes, and cold weather would probably make that worse, so I'd rather be in Florida than any other state. When I've worked at jobs where I had to call customers around the country, if it was Winter, just my mentioning that I was in Florida would make some people mad, because they were sometimes in the middle of a blizzard, or snowed in, or experiencing below-zero weather, and I would joke around about how we had the A/C on! Their anger was mostly in fun, but they were definitely envious!
 
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As far as my complaining about Miami, I will admit that I have struggled with prejudice, and that is the main reason why I am not fluent in Spanish. I really didn't want to learn Spanish.

In High School, for example, I went to a pep rally in the school Auditorium, and someone asked me, "Are you Cuban or American?" I replied, "American." After that, they started punching and kicking me because I was American. It's things like that which have caused me to be prejudiced. I thought, "Why am I getting punched and kicked for being an American, in AMERICA??" When I got saved at 19, I forgave them for doing that, but many things have happened since then, that related to the same thing, and I just have to keep going to the Lord about it and telling myself that I forgive everyone who has ever offended me. It's a lot easier now that I've moved out of Miami. We have quite a few Mexicans and a few Cubans and other Hispanics here in Ocala, but it can't even come close to comparing to the way it is in Miami. Looking at it from a more godly perspective, however, Miami is very much a foreign mission field.
 
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Thank you! The positive things I've said (and done) come from the Jesus in me. The negative things I've said come from the flesh.



I guess its human nature to complain. As you can see, even though I am much, MUCH happier living in Ocala than I was in Miami, I still find time to complain about the spiders and insects, which seem bigger and more numerous here. Of course, I'm at least partially doing it in fun, to be funny...but sharing frustrations at the same time.

But when people move somewhere voluntarily and start complaining about it, it can definitely be annoying. Years ago, I attended Bob Jones University in South Carolina, and saw snow for the first time in my entire life. Even though it was only about 1/2 inch or so, the sight of falling snow, and branches encased in ice, and snow on the ground, fascinated me, and I thought that was the most incredible thing I had ever seen. Then, someone from Michigan said something like, "People that get excited over this little bit of snow are so stupid. This ain't snow! They don't know what snow is!" I know that I shouldn't let a little comment like that get to me, but ever since then, I felt like a fool for falling in love with snow like that, and I have never wanted to see snow again...and I haven't. The thought of snow only brings back the memory of that comment, and I don't care to ever see it again. I know I should get over it, but my point is that people complaining about things like that can ruin things for you.

Of course, for me, I get sinus headaches when the weather changes, and cold weather would probably make that worse, so I'd rather be in Florida than any other state. When I've worked at jobs where I had to call customers around the country, if it was Winter, just my mentioning that I was in Florida would make some people mad, because they were sometimes in the middle of a blizzard, or snowed in, or experiencing below-zero weather, and I would joke around about how we had the A/C on! Their anger was mostly in fun, but they were definitely envious!

Everyone complains, it just annoys me when all they do is complain and never even try to look for the good. With just about every thing in life you have to take the good with the bad, so why not try to remember the good more than the bad?
 
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As far as my complaining about Miami, I will admit that I have struggled with prejudice, and that is the main reason why I am not fluent in Spanish. I really didn't want to learn Spanish.

In High School, for example, I went to a pep rally in the school Auditorium, and someone asked me, "Are you Cuban or American?" I replied, "American." After that, they started punching and kicking me because I was American. It's things like that which have caused me to be prejudiced. I thought, "Why am I getting punched and kicked for being an American, in AMERICA??" When I got saved at 19, I forgave them for doing that, but many things have happened since then, that related to the same thing, and I just have to keep going to the Lord about it and telling myself that I forgive everyone who has ever offended me. It's a lot easier now that I've moved out of Miami. We have quite a few Mexicans and a few Cubans and other Hispanics here in Ocala, but it can't even come close to comparing to the way it is in Miami. Looking at it from a more godly perspective, however, Miami is very much a foreign mission field.

Too be fair, I do not believe those boy were beating you up because you were an American, they were doing that because they were bullies and they were going to bully someone no matter what the excuse. Even though I am white and an American I have had to put up with bullies—and the meanest and nastiest bullies were usually the white, flag waving, cowgirls. I have actually received a lot of comfort and kindness from friends who are Hispanic or Black. You will find bullies and racist in every creed or color—but it is wrong to judge the whole group by the actions of a few.
 
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Too be fair, I do not believe those boy were beating you up because you were an American, they were doing that because they were bullies and they were going to bully someone no matter what the excuse. Even though I am white and an American I have had to put up with bullies—and the meanest and nastiest bullies were usually the white, flag waving, cowgirls. I have actually received a lot of comfort and kindness from friends who are Hispanic or Black. You will find bullies and racist in every creed or color—but it is wrong to judge the whole group by the actions of a few.

Actually, I unknowingly sat in the "Cuban" section, so that made me a target. And the guy who asked me if I was Cuban or American was about 20 seats away from me. They were definitely prejudiced against Americans. If I had been Cuban, they would not have hit or kicked me.

But you're right; in every race and culture, there are nice people and mean people. Once, I went into a chicken restaurant in a black section, and one guy told me, "Get outta here, whitey!" Yet, the guy who first told me the gospel was a black guy, and it was through him and a Chick tract that I got saved.

Three of my former best friends are Cuban (only 'former' because I or they have moved away, and we have been out of contact). My own sister-in-law is Cuban. I have also been around white guys and girls who have acted like real jerks. Cubans think differently from Americans (unless they have been 'Americanized'), and their values and culture are different. They are, like most Latin Americans, very much a social culture, and dancing and partying play a very big part in their culture...much more so than in the American culture. Yes, Americans dance and party too, but with Cubans, and other Latin Americans, it is very strongly embedded into their culture, and it is part of what defines them.

Americans are much more snobbish than Latin Americans are. Cubans, like Italians and other Latin Americans, are VERY hot-tempered, and the slightest thing can set them off and bring out rage in them. I'm speaking in generalities here. Of course, there are always exceptions, but I'm speaking of the culture as a whole.

I have heard of Rednecks who pick on blacks, and black sections of town that are dangerous for any white person to drive through at night. My cousin used to be married to a Native American, and I was warned that his Native American friends sometimes beat up white people, so to steer clear of them (though this still sounds unusual to me).

The Cubans that I grew up around were largely marielitos, with very little education, many of whom had been in prison in Cuba for stealing, etc. The Spanish they spoke was mostly slang. When I was younger, there were more of the traditional Cubans, and that group had much more honor, and were more respectable. But, as a culture, Cubans are very hard-working, and they are very proud of their heritage...which is at least part of the reason why they refuse to learn or speak English (except for the ones born in this country). If you are their friend, they will do anything in the world for you...even steal or lie for you. But if you ever become their enemy, every bit of that same passion will be turned against you, and they will do everything in their power to make life a nightmare for you. And Cubans stick together, unlike Americans, so if you get into a fight or argument with one, they all turn on you. Whereas Americans are more individualistic, Cubans are more like a family, as far as their culture. They also still practice the extended family, which Americans have not practiced for many years.

But, every culture is different, does things different ways, looks at things differently, and has strong points and weak points. Just like every person does, and just like every church does. And, as you said and I already reiterated, there are always 'good' and 'bad' persons within every culture.
 
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As I already mentioned, my sister-in-law is Cuban, and my cousin used to be married to a Native American. My Aunt is French (and she goes back to France every year to visit her family), and my brother-in-law's mom is Puerto Rican, and his step-dad is Cuban (his biological dad is Puerto Rican). Two of my former girlfriends were Cuban. The couple that lived across the street from us where I grew up were Italian.

When I was growing up, all the Cubans thought I was Cuban, and would always ask me, "Are you Cuban?"

Yet, in South Carolina where I attended one college, everyone thought I was Native American. I got so tired of everyone asking me whether I was Native American, and not believing me when I told them 'no,' (they insisted that I had to be Native American), that one time, a girl asked me if I was Native American, and I said "Yes." I then went on to tell her that my dad was a Chief, and I had to go through an initiation ceremony where I had to kill a bear with only a knife. She was totally fascinated, and listened to my every word. When I finally told her that I made all that up, she got REALLY mad at me, and she refused to speak to me after that. I only told her all that because I was so tired of everyone asking me that all the time.
 
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Yeah, its a pain when people try to make you into something that you're not, or when people don't accept you for who you are.

I know I'm changing the subject now, but I went to St. Augustine this weekend, and they said that Ponce de Leon claimed all of America for Spain, but called the entire country Florida, which it was called until they changed the name to the United States. I had heard that before from one person, but wasn't sure whether it was true; but this confirmed it.
 
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*scratches head* Hmm, I don't think they had it right? If I remember my history lessons right, the continent got claimed several times over by more than one country....like the French claimed what was later called the Louisania purchase, the British and French claimed different parts of Canada, the British claiming a good chunk of the eastern seaboard, the Spanish claiming Florida, California, and parts of Texas.....sorry if I rambled! lol Though Pounce de Leon, like many others including Columbus, thought there more to what they found....
 
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Here's what I found on one website
( http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/us/A0858165.html ):

"Although the Florida peninsula was probably sighted by earlier navigators, the Spanish explorer Juan Ponce de León is credited as the first European to visit the area. Seeking the fabled Fountain of Youth, Ponce de León landed near the site of Saint Augustine in 1513. He claimed the area, which he thought was an island, for Spain and named it Florida, probably because it was then the Easter season (Pascua Florida). Other Spanish adventurers, notably Pánfilo de Narváez and Hernando De Soto, later explored the region and established the fact that Florida was not an island. The vast region that comprises most of the SE United States was claimed for Spain, the whole being known as Florida. It was the activity of the French in the area, however, that led to actual Spanish settlement of the Florida peninsula. In May, 1562, Jean Ribaut had discovered the St. Johns River, and two years later René de Laudonnière built Fort Caroline at its mouth. Alarmed at this encroachment by the French, Philip II of Spain commissioned Pedro Menéndez de Aviles to drive the French out of the area; this he did ruthlessly. Spanish colonization began when Menéndez founded St. Augustine in 1565. Florida had no precious metals to spur conquest (as in Mexico and Peru), its soil seemed infertile (Spanish Florida was never self-sufficient agriculturally), and the Native Americans resented their encroachment. However, the Spanish were compelled to hold Florida because of its strategic location along the Straits of Florida, through which rich treasure ships from the south sailed for Spain.

English Colonization

In the 1600s the English, who were trying to expand their American colonial holdings after 1607, began to threaten Florida. St. Augustine was attacked several times by English corsairs and in 1702–3 was besieged by a force from the English colony in South Carolina. In 1742, English colonists from Georgia under James E. Oglethorpe, Georgia's founder, defeated the Spanish in the battle of Bloody Marsh on St. Simons Island, making Florida's northern boundary the St. Marys River. Spain's last-minute entry (1762) into the Seven Years War cost her Florida, which the British acquired through the Treaty of Paris (1763).
Under the British (1763–83), Florida was divided into two provinces, and St. Augustine and Pensacola were respectively made the capitals of East Florida and West Florida. Under the Treaty of Paris (1783), Florida was returned to Spain. Many colonists in Florida abandoned the region and moved to British possessions in the West Indies. Spain's hold over Florida, however, was extremely tenuous. Boundary disputes developed with the United States (see West Florida Controversy). In the War of 1812, Pensacola served as a British base until captured (1814) by U.S. General Andrew Jackson.

U.S. Occupation

In 1819, after years of diplomatic wrangling, Spain reluctantly signed the Adams-Onis treaty ceding Florida to the United States in return for U.S. assumption of $5 million in damages claimed by U.S. citizens against Spain. Official U.S. occupation took place in 1821, and Andrew Jackson was appointed military governor. Florida, with its present boundaries, was organized as a territory in 1822, and William P. Duval became its first territorial governor.
Settlers poured in from neighboring states, settling especially in the area around the newly founded capital of Tallahassee. A plantation economy flourished there, with cotton and tobacco the chief crops. Settlement expanded southward and displaced the Seminoles, and wars with them seriously impeded Florida's development. A group of Seminole, under Osceola, resisted attempts to move them to the West, but eventually most of them were transported out of the region at the end of the Second Seminole War (1835–42). However, a small band fled to the wilderness of the Everglades and their descendants live on reservations in the Lake Okeechobee area."
 
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