Flat Earth

[JohnEmmett]

Really? How do you know this? And why would Buddha care about whether someone was an atheist or not? You do not sound like any Buddhist that I have ever met.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

science adapts but atheists stay stuck

Oh, we can adapt to not believe in any god or gods that might come up. 'Stuck' is not a particularly meaningful or useful description - we're 'stuck' not believing in gods the same way you're stuck not believing in all the things you don't believe in.

 

[JohnEmmett]

… we're 'stuck' not believing in gods …

the afterlife is what you are stuck in denial of

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

subjective evidence is fine

What subjective evidence can there be of the afterlife? Do dead people talk to you?

 

[JohnEmmett]

What subjective evidence can there be of the afterlife? Do dead people talk to you?

She died, went to heaven, and met god

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

That's a problem with science, there are always changes. It's not stable in the least.

It changes because it continually discovers more about the world, updates our understanding of what was known, and corrects its errors.

Besides, 'science' is still telling you that you are hurtling on a ball in the vacuum of space in multiple directions at over 2 million miles per hour, while a gravitational force that cannot be measured keeps planets, moons, and comets in a predictable orbit, all satellites around the earth in perfect order, the tides a predictable interval, and all while you can't feel or measure any of it.

We can measure the gravitational force - Isaac Newton did that in the 17th century.

If you spent the time to understand the science, you'd understand that it explains why the celestial bodies orbit the way they do (Newton understood) and why you don't feel that movement (it's basically the same reason you don't feel the movement in a car, train, or aircraft cruising at constant speed).

Sorry, I'm not that gullible.

Oh, the irony!

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

the afterlife is what you are stuck in denial of

The afterlife is not relevant to atheism. Some atheists believe in an afterlife, some don't. Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

She died, went to heaven, and met god

How is that experience qualitatively different from a dream or trip or hallucination? What evidence is there that it was more?

 

[JohnEmmett]

How is that experience qualitatively different from a dream or trip or hallucination? What evidence is there that it was more?

well it is just matter of fact

 

[OnePath]

It changes because it continually discovers more about the world, updates our understanding of what was known, and corrects its errors.

We can measure the gravitational force - Isaac Newton did that in the 17th century.

If you spent the time to understand the science, you'd understand that it explains why the celestial bodies orbit the way they do (Newton understood) and why you don't feel that movement (it's basically the same reason you don't feel the movement in a car, train, or aircraft cruising at constant speed).

You mean this Newton?

Tis unconceivable that inanimate brute matter should (without the mediation of something else which is not material) operate upon & affect other matter without mutual contact; as it must if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential & inherent in it. And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe {innate} gravity to me. That gravity should be innate inherent & {essential} to matter so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum without the mediation of any thing else by & through which their action or force {may} be conveyed from one to another is to me so great an absurdity that I beleive no man who has in philosophical matters any competent faculty of thinking can ever fall into it.
Original letter from Isaac Newton to Richard Bentley (Normalized)

He's stating that gravity pertaining to celestial bodies in a vacuum is so absurd that no one competent would ever even consider it, and that he didn't want such a thought ever associated with him. Funny how I knew this and you didn't.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Faith is a weakness.

Faith is a muscle

Matthew 8:26

 

[Subduction Zone]

She died, went to heaven, and met god

That is pretty weak "evidence". She was not even dead. Being deeply unconscious is not being dead.

 

[JohnEmmett]

That is pretty weak "evidence"

I think it's strong evidence

 

[Subduction Zone]

Faith is a muscle

Matthew 8:26

Nope. One can just as easily believe wrong ideas as right ones when it comes to faith. People only use "faith" when they do not know. And they are wrong at rather high rate when they make that error. It is better to be honest and say "I do not know".

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think it's strong evidence

But that is only because you want it to be. It really is not since it is perfectly explainable from a natural perspective. No need for magic or hocus pocus.

 

[JohnEmmett]

But that is only because you want it to be.

It's because I'm more experienced (spiritually)

 

[JohnEmmett]

People only use "faith" when they do not know.

I know but faith is a spiritual faculty

 

[Subduction Zone]

You mean this Newton?

Tis unconceivable that inanimate brute matter should (without the mediation of something else which is not material) operate upon & affect other matter without mutual contact; as it must if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential & inherent in it. And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe {innate} gravity to me. That gravity should be innate inherent & {essential} to matter so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum without the mediation of any thing else by & through which their action or force {may} be conveyed from one to another is to me so great an absurdity that I beleive no man who has in philosophical matters any competent faculty of thinking can ever fall into it.
https://www.newtonproject.ox.ac.uk/view/texts/normalized/THEM00258/

He's stating that gravity pertaining to celestial bodies in a vacuum is so absurd that no one competent would ever even consider it, and that he didn't want such a thought ever associated with him. Funny how I knew this and you didn't.

Your link does not work. And yes, as great of a mind as he had Newton did not fully appreciate his work. Others went on after him and added to it. Your poor attempt does nothing to put any doubt on his work at all.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I know but faith is a spiritual faculty

You would have to prove that "spirit" exists to make such a claim be reliable. As written all you have is word salad.

 

[JohnEmmett]

You would have to prove that "spirit" exists to make such a claim be reliable. As written all you have is word salad.

you would have to be spiritual to know it is real


your perspective is that of an atheist