FLAT EARTH.

[yeshuaslavejeff]

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[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

It doesn't go against God's word. I knew a man that worked for NASA and I trust him to know what was true or not. All these conspiracies you believe in are just false.

It does go against God's Word, for the Earth is a circular, relatively flat plane, with a dome (firmament) over it, as pointed out in God's word. God cannot tell a lie. His word tells us that.

I'm sure that the guy you know who worked for NASA wasn't one of the individuals "in the know".

If the conspiracies I believe are false, then why has NASA been caught faking and lying? Why is the masonic connection firmly established? Why does this match up with deception and taking mankind's eyes away from God, claiming that we are a mere speck in the universe instead of all there is? I've shown you how things work on the flat Earth. I've shown you plenty of evidence. You simply choose to ignore it.

 

[Meowzltov]

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[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Trigonometry now. If a right triangle has a leg that is 4000 opposite a 1 degree angle, how long is the other leg?

What does this have to do with anything?

 

[AdamSK]

The answer is approximately 229,000. I will wait for you to confirm.

 

[Meowzltov]

If the conspiracies I believe are false, then why has NASA been caught faking and lying?

It's the people feeding you the so-called information about NASA that are faking and lying.

 

[AdamSK]

What does this have to do with anything?

That would be the distance to China if the sun is 4000 above the land but appears as close to the horizon as you have agreed it does.

More trig. What are the angles of a right triangle with sides of 4000 and 7000?

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Arc degree is a measurement of size in your visual range. Without knowing how far away something is, you can measure what part of the 360 degree circle of your vision it takes up. The sun and moon are both around one half arc degree when viewed from Earth. Even flat earth proponents usually agree with this.

If the sun is far enough away that it is indistinguishable from the flat earth then it is clearly less than one arc degree above the land. I just wanted to make sure you didn't disagree with this.

The sun is very close to the Earth. It is much smaller than the Earth. Earth is not a planet, as planets do not exist. The sun is a luminary in the sky.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

It's the people feeding you the so-called information about NASA that are faking and lying.

If you want to believe that, go right ahead.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

That would be the distance to China if the sun is 4000 above the land but appears as close to the horizon as you have agreed it does.

More trig. What are the angles of a right triangle with sides of 4000 and 7000?

Personally, I think that the sun is less than a thousand miles away, given images from high altitude balloons.

 

[Meowzltov]

It does go against God's Word, for the Earth is a circular, relatively flat plane

So it's circular and not a quadrilateral? Then you disagree with the Bible when it says the earth has four corners?

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. Rev 7:1

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

I have read God's Word entirely, and never found anything which said that the Earth is flat. That said, though, let us look at these ‘facts’.



Like it proves anything.



Yeah, right. An astronaut in front of a blue board with white stripes means that the Earth is flat. A video with on-screen text pointing at alleged ‘bubbles’ means the same thing. And let us not forget the guys whose faces look a lot like those of the dead Challenger crew, even though you forgot to find one guy.



The balloon which did not fly high enough to allow you to see the curvature of the Earth.



The 50-minute long videos which I do not have the time to watch, which are probably just filled with nonsense anyway. Also, the sentence, ‘God is supernatural. He can light which sections he wants to light’, which attempts to ‘explain’ how the Sun — which is allegedly located always on the same side of the flat Earth — does not illuminate the entire Earth.



The intelligent and honest guys who do their job and study the Universe.



And yet, they were more intelligent than you, who, even with all our modern technology, cannot see what is blatantly evident: that the Earth is round.



Like God cares so much to tell us the shape of the Earth.



Wait. That freaky camera in that video, which the cameraman can't make steady and shows only a weird circle of light (which is claimed to be Mars) do some weird stuff? Yes, I believe that Galileo's telescope was better than that.

If you don't want to watch the videos, then you can choose to do that. However, I have provided these links and images as learning tools. You don't have to watch it all in one sitting. It'll probably take months for you to get the entire picture.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

So it's circular and not a quadrilateral? Then you disagree with the Bible when it says the earth has four corners?

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. Rev 7:1

No, I don't disagree with the four corners. The Earth can have four corners beyond the dome. I'm not certain about this aspect, but I trust that God's word is true.

 

[AdamSK]

The answer is 29 degrees.

If the farthest away the sun gets from you is 7000 miles, then the sun should never be below 29 degrees above the horizon.

If the sun gets to one degree above the horizon and is still 4000 miles above the earth, then it is 229,000 miles away.

Is there a flaw in my math?

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

I pretty much lurk in this thread (laughing most of the time) because really it is best for those skilled in math and science to answer the ignorant. However, I know psychology, and here I can answer this particular item.

Human beings are hardwired neurologically to see faces. We are not only drawn to faces, but we see faces from even just the mere hints of faces. And that means we often see faces when no real faces are there. It's why we see faces in cartoon drawings of faces, or just the two dots and curve of a happy face. It is part of our ability to see patterns, even when no pattern exists, but when it comes to faces, its patterns on hyper drive.

The so-called face on Mars is simply a random, naturally occurring geological formation. The closer up to it we get, the more obvious it becomes that it is not a face at all. But from far away, our imaginations turn it into a face the same way we see bunnies and castles in the clouds or the Virgin Mary on a piece of toast.

If you want to believe that, you're free to do so. That doesn't make it so. There's already been evidence of mockery with the Pluto the dog CGI image of Pluto, that I don't believe that this picture is anything but an attempt to put a face.

One other thing. I took the classes in college. I studied the science. I even once taught this science. I am well aware of what the science says. I graduated summa cum laude in my college's department, top of my class with a near perfect grade point average. I'm a very intelligent man. I trusted the science of man long before I came to a realization that flat Earth is true. I simply cannot believe much of it. It doesn't match what we see.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

The answer is 29 degrees.

If the farthest away the sun gets from you is 7000 miles, then the sun should never be below 29 degrees above the horizon.

If the sun gets to one degree above the horizon and is still 4000 miles above the earth, then it is 229,000 miles away.

Is there a flaw in my math?

You're going to have to ask someone who is a math person. I might be able to do these things with a pencil and paper, but not off the top of my head.

 

[AdamSK]

You're going to have to ask someone who is a math person. I might be able to do these things with a pencil and paper, but not off the top of my head.

You need to get a pencil and paper and do the math. Your own observations contradict your model.

Even if the sun is only a thousand miles up, that means it is more than 50,000 miles away by sunset. There is no point on Earth that far away in your model. The distances don't work.

Also, at only a thousand miles up, there are other issues. Do you acknowledge that it is noon in LA when it is 3 pm in Atlanta?

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

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Think of a circular plate. The sun moves in a circuit around the plate, illuminating the part of the plate to which it is closest.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

You need to get a pencil and paper and do the math. Your own observations contradict your model.

Even if the sun is only a thousand miles up, that means it is more than 50,000 miles away by sunset. There is no point on Earth that far away in your model. The distances don't work.

Also, at only a thousand miles up, there are other issues. Do you acknowledge that it is noon in LA when it is 3 pm in Atlanta?

Honestly, I think the sun looks like it's only about 150-200 miles away.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

You need to get a pencil and paper and do the math. Your own observations contradict your model.

Even if the sun is only a thousand miles up, that means it is more than 50,000 miles away by sunset. There is no point on Earth that far away in your model. The distances don't work.

Also, at only a thousand miles up, there are other issues. Do you acknowledge that it is noon in LA when it is 3 pm in Atlanta?

I acknowledge that Atlanta and LA are three time zones apart. I fly out to the LA area every year to visit my wife's family.