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Flat Earth: Why doesn't a Plane's altitude meter (gyroscope) pitch up and down if it's a round earth

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No, Antarctica. You cannot go there. Not without permission as described the treaty.

Getting permission isn't all that hard, and once you do, you're pretty much free to go wherever you like down there. Honestly, even if you didn't get permission, it's not like there's a forcefield that would keep you out of the place, and it's not being guarded by anyone.



There is a whole documentary on the guy on You tube. Interviews with him and video of his missions. He is a hero.




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So if we have a flat earth - and it is not infinite - show me the edge.

flat-earth-society1.jpg

The evil Satanist conspiracy found the edge before anyone else could, and has been controlling it for thousands of years, and in all of that time not a single person who wasn't in on the conspiracy has ever seen it.

At least that seems to be the claim.
 
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i can't fathom how there could be a "flat" earth.....

there's a "core" in the center of the earth, right?

And it's really super hot?

And there's volcanoes that spew molten hot lava (from the earth's core)

And there's well, "gravity"

Then there's the moon....and it's round....isn't it?

how could the earth be "flat"?

brinny, I am genuinely horrified by this thread. We're actually in agreement for once! :D

I am reminded of Columbus and these flat earth warnings that his ships would fall off the edge of the earth. Now we're talking airplanes.



Speaking of airplanes -

Has any plane ever flown past the edge of the earth?

Though from what I've read it was understood that the earth was round long before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. He just didn't realize there was a giant landmass between Europe and India.
 
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From the beginning, when men were smarter, they knew the earth was a globe, as the Word declared it was:)
I will be happy to review Scriptures that prove the earth /globe does not move and is the absolute center of the entire created stretched out heavens, according to the Bible, which men prefer to not believe, for some reason, later, but right now, I'm on short time limits here.
Eritosthenes, , way back in the third century BC, even calculated the circumference of the earth:

http://www.juliantrubin.com/bigten/eratosthenes.html "Eratosthenes will always be remembered for the calculation of the Earth's circumference circa 240 BC, using trigonometry and knowledge of the angle of elevation of the Sun at noon in Alexandria and Syene (now Aswan, Egypt). The calculation is based on the assumption that the Earth is spherical and that the Sun is so far away that its rays can be taken as parallel.

Details of his method he published in a work On the measurement of the Earth which unfortunately was lost. We know indirectly about his method from other authors."


But before Eratosthenes, the earth's circumference was measured by Mitzraim [Egypt], after the flood -and probably after the fall of the tower. His name [I think I remember] means "to measure". These things can be discovered in written histories from those ancient writings which did survive the destruction inflicted on all wisdom written in the histories of the all the once glorious nations overrun by their enemies.

We are so dumbed down today it is pitiful.

There are many ancient maps that prove the earth was measured and was always known to be a globe. The book, "Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings" comes to mind.
The many Scriptures from the beginning about the earth and the heavens show the heavens revolving around the globe from day 1, when God said "light be!", and separated the light from the darkness: the light revolved and the darkness revolved, as they were the not yet stretched out heavens between the divided in two waters of creation.
When the heavens were stretched out on day 2, between the divided in two waters of creation, the heavens continued to revolve around the earth, which is the center of this present creation; and all heavens are "up/above", from the earth globe, from all points on the earth, right from the beginning.

The sun, moon, and the stars always revolve in their peculiar paths set for them from the beginning in the revolving "circle" of the earth, which is the heavens above.
Lots and lots of Scripture show the sun rises.. Joshua told the sun and moon to stand still in the heavens, but the heavens did not stand still. The earth always remains fixed in its place until the last days Tribulation, BTW, during which time Enoch and Isaiah show that the "sun will be moved out of its place; turned upside down; seasons backwards; and the earth will jump about as a "hunted roe"; stagger as a drunken man"days cut short [Revelation tells us by one third of their shining, which means 18 hour days, not 24 hour days, in that time]....
Joshua told the sun and moon to stand still, not the heavens to stand still, and not the earth to stand still, because earth is always still, and the heavens revolve, but the stars and the sun and moon have their own courses peculiar to themselves in the heavens.

The guy who was so sure that the Book of Enoch is satanic is not to be trusted as he is rebuked by all history on the subject from the beginning, for it is in Enoch that the paths of the stars, sun, and moon are described as Enoch was shown them by the angel, Uriel as the Book of Enoch itself was always

This business of a "flat earth" only comes from the dark ages, after Rome fell to barbarians and travel between the continents, over the vast oceans, was shut down....and the east forgot the west for the most part [but not all] for a time, even though the Bible tells of the trade that went on between the continents in the days of Ezekiel, but the Word of God fell into disfavor and men did not believe....so myths filled in the supposed "gaps"..


I would have preferred you take this time to state the biblical reasons for a non moving earth!! The things stated above are figures of speech--(the sun rises--terminology we use today) I am also one of those that do not believe the book of Enoch as inspired by God and therefore, not scripture.
The one scripture given me as prove the earth doesn't move doesn't say that at all--it says
(Psa 93:1) The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

Can no be moved, and does not move are 2 very different meanings.
 
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This is why an attitude indicator doesn't pitch
as you cruise in a plane across a spherical planet at high speeds.

A moot question ?

What OTHER 'kinds of planet' (SHAPES) are there?
~are there CUBES or PYRAMIDS ?


LOL ... sorry, I just had-to pick up on this

:)
 
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According to this theory, where is the North Pole?

Actually; it is exactly, at the other-end of, the South Pole's axis
an axis, it shares with the South Pole

Did you know, that they spin, in opposite-directions also ?

Thrust a pencil through an apple and 'mark' the top NORTH
and, the bottom SOUTH
spin the NORTH 'end' of the pencil
in an anti-clockwise direction
and while it is spinning so
view the SOUTH's movement, about that axis

ROFLOL

:p ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ :wave:
 
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brinny, I am genuinely horrified by this thread. We're actually in agreement for once! :D



Though from what I've read it was understood that the earth was round long before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. He just didn't realize there was a giant landmass between Europe and India.

LOL!
 
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Actually; it is exactly, at the other-end of, the South Pole's axis
an axis, it shares with the South Pole

Did you know, that they spin, in opposite-directions also ?

Thrust a pencil through an apple and 'mark' the top NORTH
and, the bottom SOUTH
spin the NORTH 'end' of the pencil
in an anti-clockwise direction
and while it is spinning so
view the SOUTH's movement, about that axis

ROFLOL

:p ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ :wave:

LOL! Awesome!!! :D
 
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Did I not hear correctly ?

ie: That they flew to the moon on the equivalent of a Dragon Computer

DSCF8737.jpg


:)
Almost.

The Apollo Guidance Computer:

getAsset.aspx


had 64kb of RAM, so double that of the Dragon 32. But there was also a Dragon 64 which is a closer equivalent.

However, the AGC only had a clock speed of 0.043MHz, while the Dragons apparently had 0.89MHz so were much quicker.
 
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Did I not hear correctly ?

ie: That they flew to the moon on the equivalent of a Dragon Computer

DSCF8737.jpg


:)
yes, most of the computing power was on the ground.
most of the rest was on "padds" that ha to be hand entered by the astronauts.
the on-board apollo computers had no disk drives but employed ferrite core memory.
the word length was 16 bits but could only address 32K.

so yes, we went to the moon on the equivalent of the dragon 32.
keep in mind that NASA had a vast amount of ground based computational power though.
most of this stuff was done on the ground, then relayed to the astronauts or was entered from the PADDS.

source: computers in spaceflight: the NASA experience. CH2 computers on board the apollo spacecraft.
 
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I am a pilot and used to work providing the uplink of services to satellites. I can most definitely say with 100% certainty the earth is NOT flat. If it were...my great circle route and orbital calculations would be WAYYYY off.

Not good if you have to move a satellites position or navigate an aircraft without ending up in the ocean.
 
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Almost.

The Apollo Guidance Computer:

getAsset.aspx


had 64kb of RAM, so double that of the Dragon 32. But there was also a Dragon 64 which is a closer equivalent.

However, the AGC only had a clock speed of 0.043MHz, while the Dragons apparently had 0.89MHz so were much quicker.
i rechecked my source for errors and i see none.
but i am confused.
my source says the word length was 16 bits, which theoretically could address 64K, but it distinctly said the core rope memory was only 32K.
 
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Getting permission isn't all that hard, and once you do, you're pretty much free to go wherever you like down there. Honestly, even if you didn't get permission, it's not like there's a forcefield that would keep you out of the place, and it's not being guarded by anyone.



There is a whole documentary on the guy on You tube. Interviews with him and video of his missions. He is a hero.




Oil, coal, minerals, all kinds.
[/QUOTE]


Where exactly would you go? You cannot trust GPS to take you to the edge, it is a controlled system (It probably doesn't even work there). The average person does not know where to go. They would need a ton of resources just to get to the edge (if they could find it). Look at all the failed expeditions to explore antarctica further.

You can circumnavigate a flat earth...just like a spherical earth. It's all about perception.

We have a national hero, going on a public TV program and stating that antartica is full of resources. This man took a task force of more than 4000 military personnel and ships and aircraft to antarctica (Operation Deep Freeze, Operation Deep Freeze II, Operation High Jump).

Look at the U.N logo. Why would they use a flat earth map projection WITH a leaf encircling the land masses? The leaf is suppose to be antarctica.


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I am a pilot and used to work providing the uplink of services to satellites. I can most definitely say with 100% certainty the earth is NOT flat. If it were...my great circle route and orbital calculations would be WAYYYY off.

Not good if you have to move a satellites position or navigate an aircraft without ending up in the ocean.


You're a pilot? This guy is also a pilot....a military one and he confirms it is a flat earth:


Look at the horizon, it's completly flat. The chopper is not adjusting for curvature when trying to land on the ship.

Notice there is no kind of distortion on the horizon. All of the NASA videos have horizon distortions (either due to CGI or type of lens used).
 
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some excerpts from my source:
The choice of a 1 6-bit word size was a careful one.

Data storage was as fractions (all numbers were less than one).

Tray A held the logic circuits, interfaces, and the power supply, and tray B had the memory, memory electronics, analog alarm devices, and the clock, which had a speed of one megahertz.

The use of bank registers enabled all of the machine's memory to be addressed. The largest number that can be contained in 12 bits is 8,192. The fixed memory of the Apollo computer contained over four times that many locations.

Fixed memory leapt to 24K and then finally to 36K words, and erasable memory had a final configuration of 2K words.
 
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Yes, it amazes me just how accurate they needed to be
to fire up their rockets, at the exact moment of their take-off 'window'
so that they could rendezvous with the moon, which was somewhere
between; 225,623 miles (363,104 kilometers) and 252,088 miles (405,696 km) from Earth
The Apollo 11 spacecraft, had to travel at least 7 miles per second (11.25 km/s)
to break free of Earth's gravitational field. This speed is 32.4 times as fast as the speed of sound
('Mach 32.4"). and for comparison purposes >> The average bullet travels at 2,500 feet per second (around 1,700 mph). [some 0.4734848 of a mile ~per second]
Which means, they travelled at something-more than 14 times the speed of a bullet
(incredible) AND, after, travelling that enormous distance, they really managed
to 'get themselves' CAPTURED, by the Moon's gravity (one-sixth of Earth's gravitational pull)
and 'did-not'... go on 'falling' into deep space (Truly Spectacular)

:thumbsup: to the Dragon Computer


:D

Not being an astronaut.... I wouldn't know whether the following statement is true (or not)
But it's claimed that astronauts are subject to only 3g's [three times gravity. experienced, on the surface]
http://www.spaceanswers.com/space-e...astronauts-experience-during-a-rocket-launch/

For some reason to do with the acceleration to, escape velocity
(14+ times, the speed of a bullet]
I get the feeling that 3g's is, an understatement
 
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