Flat Earth Theory.

[Phil G]

In this video segment, I talk about why I think Biblical Cosmology is important and what I think the motivation is behind the globe model, relating it specifically to the Beast system, who's ultimate end goal is to wage war against Yeshua.

I’m not listening to any more goofball conspiracy theorists. I have been studying flat earth theories for a number of years and I haven’t found one FE’er who can understand basic physics. Nor can they understand basic Bible principles, such as figurative language.

If you can’t stand on your own two feet to defend your claims, then you don’t have a clue about any of it. And so far, whenever anyone presses you on them, you clam up and try to deflect to something else.

I hope you’re a nicer person in reality than how you portray yourself here. Because here you come across as rude and conceited.

 

[Apple Sky]

Nor can they understand basic Bible principles, such as figurative language.

I don't reckon many people or Christians do understand this principle.

If you can’t stand on your own two feet to defend your claims, then you don’t have a clue about any of it. And so far, whenever anyone presses you on them, you clam up and try to deflect to something else.

I do not.

I hope you’re a nicer person in reality than how you portray yourself here. Because here you come across as rude and conceited.

Sorry about this, but my belief in God's words about the firmament & an unmovable earth are very strong, therefore I have to defend them, maybe I end up defending them too much, so soz.

 

[Phil G]

I don't reckon many people or Christians do understand this principle.



I do not.



Sorry about this, but my belief in God's words about the firmament & an unmovable earth are very strong, therefore I have to defend them, maybe I end up defending them too much, so soz.

You most certainly do keep deflecting to something else when challenged about your claims. It’s very noticeable.

And the problem with your ‘defending’ of your claims is not that you defend them too much but that you don’t defend them at all. You just keep diverting to some goofball.

I’m happy to debate but that’s not what you do. You just make claims. Whenever there’s a rational response to your claims, you divert.

The obvious conclusion is that you actually don’t have a deeper understanding of your claims beyond the claims themselves.

If you’re going to dismiss basic physics, you need to have a good grasp of physics. If you’re going to dismiss basic astronomy, you need to have a good grasp of astronomy. If you’re going to dismiss basic telecommunications principles, you need to have a good grasp of telecommunications.

You don’t seem to have any of this. Just making claims & diverting to goofball videos doesn’t cut it.

 

[Apple Sky]

You most certainly do keep deflecting to something else when challenged about your claims. It’s very noticeable.

And the problem with your ‘defending’ of your claims is not that you defend them too much but that you don’t defend them at all. You just keep diverting to some goofball.

I’m happy to debate but that’s not what you do. You just make claims. Whenever there’s a rational response to your claims, you divert.

The obvious conclusion is that you actually don’t have a deeper understanding of your claims beyond the claims themselves.

If you’re going to dismiss basic physics, you need to have a good grasp of physics. If you’re going to dismiss basic astronomy, you need to have a good grasp of astronomy. If you’re going to dismiss basic telecommunications principles, you need to have a good grasp of telecommunications.

You don’t seem to have any of this. Just making claims & diverting to goofball videos doesn’t cut it.

Fair enough.

 

[Phil G]

Fair enough.

I appreciate that you apologised for how you seem here, and I respect you for that. But I can’t see any point in trying to engage you in debate, because you won’t debate.

So while I might interject with a comment or two now & then, I’m going to see if others can draw more out of you than just claims & FE videos.

All the best.

 

[Jipsah]

Like we live on a spinning ball, no thanks.

It's God's design, and it works really well. Incredibily elegant, and utterly beautiful. FE fans have constructed an imaginary Rube Goldberg (Google it) universe that looks like it was designed, not by God, but by a child building a world with with Legos. It's a design that can't get out of its own way; a blob here, a box there, some water over yonder, with no discernible rhyme or reason. The real universe, the one actually designed by God, is mathematical perfection, scalable from tiniest sub-atomic particle to the well-nigh infinite universe. The real universe could only have been designed by God Himself, the Flattie universe could have ben designed by clever third grader.

 

[Jipsah]

You are the ones ridiculing God, with your spinning ball nonsense.

"Nonsense" only because you don't understand it, and assume that if you can't, God can't either. That's nonsense. That "spinning ball" you find so objectionable is the building block God used for most of the universe, begining with subatomic particles, and all the way up to the impossibly vast galaxies.

 

[Jipsah]

If a spinning ball is understanding basic physics, I'd rather not know or even try to understand.

Then you're right where you want to be.

 

[Jipsah]

How have I abused the Bible ?

By claiming it says stuff that it does not.

 

[Jipsah]

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I am around, but i have been trying to teach Biblical sense to God believing globe earthers since 2017.

You really reckon that the best way to bring people to the Lord is by telling them the eartth is flat? And by insisting that they have to believe it?

I kinda think that's what a boxer would call "leading with your chin". If you had set about by design to drive people away from believing in Christ you probably couldn't have come up with a better approach than that.

 

[Jipsah]

Your right Satan knows no bounds.

Kind of a Negative God, huh?

 

[Jipsah]

In this video segment, I talk about why I think Biblical Cosmology is important and what I think the motivation is behind the globe model, relating it specifically to the Beast system, who's ultimate end goal is to wage war against Yeshua.
I'm sorry, mate, but that stuff is pure idiocy.

 

[Jipsah]

The obvious conclusion is that you actually don’t have a deeper understanding of your claims beyond the claims themselves.

I'm still not entirely convinced that he's not "taking the mickey".

 

[d taylor]

100% agree, great post @d taylor - Thanks
Your right Satan knows no bounds.

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Well it is fairly obvious satan is the god of this age and deception is the rule. This age will be drastically contrasted with the coming age of The Messiah (1000 year millennium rule). The rule where truth reigns and not deception.

Born again believers who are flat earth believers are just not going to be able to bring down satan's globe earth (including evolution, etc.) deception. Only God will be able to end this deception and it will end when satan is locked away in the abyss for the 1000 years. Or during the tribulation when God brings judgment on this earth and the unbelieving people of the earth.

 

[Apple Sky]

Only God will be able to end this deception and it will end when satan is locked away in the abyss for the 1000 years. Or during the tribulation when God brings judgment on this earth and the unbelieving people of the earth.

Satan is one clever dude, he's not only deceived the masses into believing that the world is a spinning globe but he has also taken the souls who have believed the lie.

It's like Rob Skiba quoted in his video;

 

[Apple Sky]

"Nonsense" only because you don't understand it, and assume that if you can't, God can't either. That's nonsense. That "spinning ball" you find so objectionable is the building block God used for most of the universe, begining with subatomic particles, and all the way up to the impossibly vast galaxies.

Everything that God has ever made is circular. the earth, firmament, sun & the moon, too the cells in your body.

King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in...... Isaiah 40:22

 

[prodromos]

Everything that God has ever made is circular. the earth, firmament, sun & the moon, too the cells in your body.

Also happens to be three dimensional. The cells in your body are not flat, so you've given a good example of why we would not expect the sun, moon and earth to be flat.
Well done!

 

[Apple Sky]

Also happens to be three dimensional. The cells in your body are not flat, so you've given a good example of why we would not expect the sun, moon and earth to be flat.
Well done!

Good point, I thought of this after I had posted.

 

[trophy33]

@Apple Eye
I am still waiting -

Can you draw a picture how these iced walls work? I am especially curious about their underwater parts. What do they stand on.

Also, I am still waiting for any photograph, cam footage or even a realistic CGI of the flat earth model. Also, for the explanation (ideally a textbook for the people working in the field) of how the balloon satellites work.

 

[Apple Sky]

Can you draw a picture how these iced walls work? I am especially curious about their underwater parts. What do they stand on.

Ice I really have no idea, maybe they are not even there, who knows ?