Flat Earth Theory.

[MForbes]

Oh dear - It looks like I've truly upset the apple cart with some truths.

...and pretty much most of the earth's population.
You and I are apparently in the same age group. Please stop making it look like we get stupider the older we get.

 

[d taylor]

Not in so many words, no.
But you have said that Satan may use God's creation to deceive people, that Christians are being taken in by this deception, that only God can set people free from a globe earth deception and that the Bible isn't good enough for me "when it comes of God's creation".
All of which suggests that you think that I, and others, are being deceived and following a teaching which is outside of God's word. We may not be doomed at the moment, but the implication is that if we continue along this path, it won't end well.

No not what i am saying.

Satan does not use God's creation to deceive, that would be like saying satan is using the true gospel (belief in Jesus) to deceive people about Eternal Life (salvation). Satan uses false gospels to deceive.

Satan is using a false creation to deceive people, which is a globe earth and an outer space, where he (satan) has people believing. God has placed the sun, moon, stars and the made up idea of planets, millions to billions of miles and light years away from a globe earth.

You are believing in a creation outside of The Bible's creation, described in The Bible. But believing in this creation affects no born again child of God, status as a child of God, not in a Eternal Life salvation area. Once a person believes in Jesus nothing else they believe in for the rest of their life can separate them from their born again Life of God.

 

[MForbes]

Satan is using a false creation to deceive people, which is a globe earth and an outer space, where he (satan) has people believing. God has placed the sun, moon, stars and the made up idea of planets, millions to billions of miles and light years away from a globe earth.

Apparently, you don't believe God could create such an expansive and miraculous universe. You're limiting God to creating a non-sensical mess of a "flat earth".

 

[Strong in Him]

No not what i am saying.

Satan does not use God's creation to deceive,

Maybe, but that's what it sounded like.

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Satan uses many deceptions to keep people for receiving The life of God: religion, false gospels, money, sex/lust, drugs etc.. why do you think satan would not also use God's creation to deceive people.

Satan is using a false creation to deceive people, which is a globe earth and an outer space,

Nope.

You are believing in a creation outside of The Bible's creation, described in The Bible.

Nope.

But believing in this creation affects no born again child of God, status as a child of God, not in a Eternal Life salvation area. Once a person believes in Jesus nothing else they believe in for the rest of their life can separate them from their born again Life of God.

Yes, exactly; that is what I have said before.
Nothing about this flat earth debate affects salvation. Neither does it mean that a person doesn't believe God, has been deceived, does not believe Genesis or has gone outside of God's word.

The purpose of Genesis is to show that God created - full stop. It is his universe.
God spoke.
God saw.
God said.
Etc.

Genesis is not a science text book. It doesn't say how trees were created, how deep the waters were and whether they were salty or fresh, how high the mountains were or how far apart the moon and the sun were - in relation to each other and to the earth.
Science can give us some idea of HOW the universe was created - though scientists have not yet managed to create something from nothing. But they can't tell us WHY it was created.
Genesis tells us why; because God wanted it, spoke and it happened.

 

[Lost4words]

Where in the Bible does it state that the earth is flat?

 

[Apple Sky]

The sad thing is that you don't have any truths, yet you firmly believe otherwise.

Neither do you.

 

[prodromos]

Neither do you.

The evidence shows otherwise.

 

[Apple Sky]

Where in the Bible does it state that the earth is flat?

It uses words such as;

Unmovable
Face
Line
circle not ball
Fixed
Foundation
Footstool
Firmament
Bound

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment Job 38:14

 

[Strong in Him]

Neither do you.

I'm not a scientist, no; I can't quote theorems, formulae, scientific reports and so on. But I know scientific Christians who can.
I trust Neil Armstrong when he says, and writes, that he went to the moon and the first thing he did was to read some words from Genesis. How amazing was that? God gives man the ability to discover more of his creation, man goes to the moon and reads from God's word! Great!
Yet you don't want to believe it.
I trust the photos that I've seen, the footage of the Apollos landings - I even watched part of one of them on TV.

You, however, see photos of the moon, cry "fake!" and yet cannot prove what you are saying.
You have posted a YouTube clip in which, you claim, Buzz Aldrin denied the moon landings - in fact, the clip showed the opposite.
You have made statement after statement which people have asked you to prove, or show evidence for your remarks - and you can't.

Why would anyone believe the notion, "the earth is flat; it really is. Well no, I have no proof but I believe what I am saying and have found some others who believe it too"?
If I'd taken an exam, answered the question "when was the Battle of Hastings" with the answer "1532" and had it marked wrong, how likely would it be that the teacher would correct it because I insisted that I knew I was right and all history books everywhere were incorrect?

 

[Apple Sky]

The evidence shows otherwise.

What evidence ?

 

[HantsUK]

What evidence ?

(edit) - see I was answering below the edivence for a globe earth. Not who has the truth.

Evidence that has been presented repeatedly.

For example, you can see further out to sea or along a coast line from the top of a cliff than at beach level. (On a flat earth going higher would not enable you to see further.) This becomes very obvious when there is an island which can be seen from the top of a hill but not from sea level.

Seeing the sun rise from below the horizon in the east in the morning and setting below the horizon in the west in the evening. (On a flat earth the sun would always be above the horizon / vanishing point. Alternatively, if the sun did go below the earth's plane, then sun rise and sunset would be the same time for everywhere on the flat earth).

The sizes of the sun and moon do not vary. (On a flat earth, with the sun and moon relatively close, their sizes would appear to change as they move across the sky).

 

[Apple Sky]

I'm not a scientist, no; I can't quote theorems, formulae, scientific reports and so on. But I know scientific Christians who can.
I trust Neil Armstrong when he says, and writes, that he went to the moon and the first thing he did was to read some words from Genesis. How amazing was that? God gives man the ability to discover more of his creation, man goes to the moon and reads from God's word! Great!
Yet you don't want to believe it.
I trust the photos that I've seen, the footage of the Apollos landings - I even watched part of one of them on TV.

You, however, see photos of the moon, cry "fake!" and yet cannot prove what you are saying.
You have posted a YouTube clip in which, you claim, Buzz Aldrin denied the moon landings - in fact, the clip showed the opposite.
You have made statement after statement which people have asked you to prove, or show evidence for your remarks - and you can't.

Why would anyone believe the notion, "the earth is flat; it really is. Well no, I have no proof but I believe what I am saying and have found some others who believe it too"?
If I'd taken an exam, answered the question "when was the Battle of Hastings" with the answer "1532" and had it marked wrong, how likely would it be that the teacher would correct it because I insisted that I knew I was right and all history books everywhere were incorrect?

Until you have been to outer space yourself you'll never know & neither will I.
But what I can tell you that is true, all the video's of the 69 Apollo moon landings are fake & all these so called Astro-nots are liars.

 

[prodromos]

What evidence ?

 

[MForbes]

prodromos, you're trying to talk some sense into an adult with the mind of an indoctrinated small child who hasn't started thinking for itself.

 

[Lost4words]

It uses words such as;

Unmovable
Face
Line
circle not ball
Fixed
Foundation
Footstool
Firmament
Bound

The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment Job 38:14

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Those do not imply a flat earth though! Lol

 

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[Strong in Him]

Until you have been to outer space yourself you'll never know & neither will I.
But what I can tell you that is true, all the video's of the 69 Apollo moon landings are fake & all these so called Astro-nots are liars.

But you can't prove it.
So I should believe you, because ......?

 

[HantsUK]

Until you have been to outer space yourself you'll never know & neither will I.
But what I can tell you that is true, all the video's of the 69 Apollo moon landings are fake & all these so called Astro-nots are liars.

You do not need to go into outer space to know that the earth is not flat. All you have to do is to look up in the sky and observe the sun. Or go the coast and compare how far you can see at sea level, part way up a cliff, and from the top of a cliff or nearby hill.


The evidence that the earth is a globe, not flat, has nothing whatever to do with NASA, astronauts, going to the moon, etc.


Claiming someone is a liar is a serious allegation.

 

[Apple Sky]

But you can't prove it.
So I should believe you, because ......?

You shouldn't believe me but you should believe God.

 

[Apple Sky]

You do not need to go into outer space to know that the earth is not flat. All you have to do is to look up in the sky and observe the sun. Or go the coast and compare how far you can see at sea level, part way up a cliff, and from the top of a cliff or nearby hill.

What does this prove ? Nothing.