FBI raid Mar-A-Lago

[childeye 2]

Different issue.

The issue is whether the Democrats enabled the rioters during 2020.

In any propaganda, the issue is about exposing a false premise.

Jesse Dornfeld said: ↑
Is this where we talk about Antifa?

Barbarian said: Republicans Blame Democrats, Antifa and U.S. Capitol Police for Jan. 6 Mayhem, According to New UMass Amherst/WCVB Poll | UMass Amherst

Fact check: Video shows pro-Trump mob, not Antifa, inside Capitol

Jesse Dornfeld said: ↑
Alright, what is your evidence that the Dems didn't look over or even condone or encourage the rioting?

childeye 2 said: ↑
That's easy. The evidence is that they wanted the votes for Biden certified and those who attacked the capitol didn't.

 

[The Barbarian]

Chelsea's father (Berger) got probation.

Maybe Trump can get the same deal.

 

[The Barbarian]

Different issue.

Nope. As you know, republicans enabled the rioters. Matter of public record. And some of those republicans changed their minds after the riots got underway...

The issue is whether the Democrats enabled the rioters during 2020.

Since they are mostly putting them away, I'm thinking not. On the other hand, the far right was repeatedly caught killing police, firing into police stations, rioting, and damaging property. And not just on Jan 6. Would you like me to show you?

 

[The Barbarian]

Was his house raided?

There was a warrant and his house was searched as Trump's was.

Did he have armed FBI agents going through his bedroom and residence after he was caught

Yes.

Did Sandy Berger get the files from the National Archives - Like President Trump did?

Yes.

Did Sandy Berger have the authority to declassify the files - like President Trump did?

The point is that the stolen classified material had not been declassified.

 

[The Barbarian]

Tell that to Adam Schiff who lied to the public, got caught, had people in his own sphere of influence say he lied and he has not admitted it yet.

I don't think it is doing him any good at all.

Comes down to evidence. And that's the difficulty for you. Reality might be annoying, but it is real.

 

[The Barbarian]

I think it plays well with their base. I look at the January 6th hearings and I believe the majority of Americans were not interested at all

Well, that's a testable assumption. Let's take a look...

Majority of Americans say Trump should be criminally charged for role in Jan. 6 Capitol riot
58% of respondents said Trump should be criminally charged for the January 6 riot.
Majority of Americans say Trump should be criminally charged for role in Jan. 6 Capitol riot, new poll shows

ABC News/Ipsos found that 60 per cent of Americans believe the select committee investigating the riot is conducting a fair and impartial investigation. Similarly, 58 per cent of Americans think that Mr Trump bears either a good or a great amount of responsibility for the events on 6 January and should be charged with a crime.
Majority of Americans believe Trump should be criminally charged for January 6, poll finds

Looks like you're wrong.

 

[The Barbarian]

You keep repeating that like is holds some type of meaning.

The fact that it's Trump's own guy running the FBI blows all those conspiracy stories out of the water. Really no way to get around the fact.

 

[All Becomes New]

As you know, republicans enabled the rioters.

I don't know that and I don't trust your sources.

 

[The Barbarian]

I don't know that and I don't trust your sources.

Doesn't matter. Reality is what it is. And Americans know what happened.

 

[childeye 2]

I don't know that and I don't trust your sources.

You do know that Trump's claim about the election being stolen was the reason why Trump supporters tried to stop the decertification of the electoral count, right?

 

[BPPLEE]

Well, that's a testable assumption. Let's take a look...

Majority of Americans say Trump should be criminally charged for role in Jan. 6 Capitol riot
58% of respondents said Trump should be criminally charged for the January 6 riot.
Majority of Americans say Trump should be criminally charged for role in Jan. 6 Capitol riot, new poll shows

ABC News/Ipsos found that 60 per cent of Americans believe the select committee investigating the riot is conducting a fair and impartial investigation. Similarly, 58 per cent of Americans think that Mr Trump bears either a good or a great amount of responsibility for the events on 6 January and should be charged with a crime.
Majority of Americans believe Trump should be criminally charged for January 6, poll finds

Looks like you're wrong.

The last two Presidential elections have shown us how accurate Polls are. Particularly 2016. There was less interest as the hearings proceeded even though the big 3 networks and some cable aired them. Ratings: Latest Jan. 6 Hearing Reached 17.7 Million, Down 11 Percent vs. First

 

[All Becomes New]

You do know that Trump's claim about the election being stolen was the reason why Trump supporters tried to stop the decertification of the electoral count, right?

Totally different subject.

I'm just talking about the rioters during 2020.

 

[The Barbarian]

The last two Presidential elections have shown us how accurate Polls are. Particularly 2016.

Well, let's take a look. Real Clear Politics average of all major polls...

Off by 1.1 percent. Pretty good, um?

Off by 2.7%. Still pretty good. Error is way to small to give you any comfort WRT the current polls.

 

[The Barbarian]

I'm just talking about the rioters during 2020.

It's true that the extreme right was doing more rioting than just the coup attempt on the Capitol:

Far-right “Boogaloo boy” killed officer after using Black Lives Matter protest as cover: prosecutors
“Boogaloo boy” killed officer, used BLM protest as cover: prosecutors

Far-right extremist shot at Minneapolis' police precinct to spark violence during Floyd protests, FBI says
Far-right extremist shot at Minneapolis' police precinct to spark violence during Floyd protests, FBI says

 

[The Barbarian]

There was less interest as the hearings proceeded even though the big 3 networks and some cable aired them.

I notice that about 60 percent of Americans now think Trump should be arrested, after the hearings, compared to about 64 percent before the hearings. So there was more interest than you suppose.

 

[childeye 2]

Totally different subject.

I'm just talking about the rioters during 2020.

Respectfully, it's the same subject since you're talking about who enabled the rioters.

 

[All Becomes New]

Respectfully, it's the same subject since you're talking about who enabled the rioters.

I don' think anarchists have much in common with Trump.

 

[childeye 2]

I notice that about 60 percent of Americans now think Trump should be arrested, after the hearings, compared to about 64 percent before the hearings. So there was more interest than you suppose.

I think you misspoke. What you posted looks like the hearings brought the percentage of those for Trump being charged down.

 

[childeye 2]

I don' think anarchists have much in common with Trump.

You're mistaken, these people that rioted were not anarchists. They thought they were doing the patriotic and lawful thing, because they thought the election was stolen which was the unlawful thing. It's seen in their sworn testimonies which are a matter of public record.

 

[All Becomes New]

You're mistaken, these people that rioted were not anarchists. They thought they were doing the patriotic and lawful thing, because they thought the election was stolen which was the unlawful thing. It's seen in their sworn testimonies which are a matter of public record.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.