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Thanks to the stupidity of republican leaders, the Justice Department was able to release the warrant and a list of what they actually got from the search.
FBI collected multiple sets of classified documents from Trump's Mar-a-Lago home

It's not what you were told.

After dealing with the inefficacy of the Democratic leadership, Mueller, 40,000,000 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents - going through 1,000,000 pages of documents, 2,800 subpoena's to find out from them - they knew there was nothing there to begin with.

I don't hold the fantasy that anything they say can be trusted at this point.
 
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Remember this is the same FBI and DOJ leaders that perpetrated the Russia hoax and have admitted to doing so.

No, they lied to you about that, too. Trump appointed the current FBI head.

Made a nice story, but the reality is quite different.

And notice that the Justice Department and FBI took down a rather long list of crooks in the Russiagate scandal:

Here Are All of the Indictments, Guilty Pleas and Convictions From Robert Mueller's Investigation
Here Are All of the Indictments, Guilty Pleas and Convictions From Robert Mueller's Investigation

Impressive number of perps brought to justice.

Compare to the number in the Durham fiasco:
1 indicted, and the jury found him innocent.

Benghazi:
No one indicted no crimes uncovered.

Kinda puts it all in perspective, doesn't it?

 
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After dealing with the stupidity of the Democratic leadership, Mueller, 40,000,000 19 attorney's, 40 FBI special agents - going through 1,000,000 pages of documents, 2,800 subpoena's to find out from them - they knew there was nothing there to begin with.

You were lied to about that, too:

Along with a team of experienced prosecutors and attorneys, the former FBI director has indicted, convicted or gotten guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies, including top advisers to President Donald Trump, Russian spies and hackers with ties to the Kremlin. The charges range from interfering with the 2016 election and hacking emails to lying to investigators and tampering with witnesses.
Here Are All of the Indictments, Guilty Pleas and Convictions From Robert Mueller's Investigation

f you don't know about this, then you are only reading one side.
 
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I'd be willing to look at your cliam that they did do any of that. Your standard of "guilty unless proven innocent" works in North Korea, but not in the U.S.

Nice try,though. Let's see what you have.

If you don't know about this, then you are only reading one side.

If it existed, you'd be able to show us, wouldn't you? So now we know what you don't have.
 
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You were lied to about that, too:

Yes, we were lied to on national news shows almost nightly.

Adam Schiff and his irrefutable proof of collusion -
Trump is a Russian operative
Trump's obstruction

Yes, we definitely lied to for two and half years. And in my opinion - we are still being lied to.
 
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No, they lied to you about that, too. Trump appointed the current FBI head.

Made a nice story, but the reality is quite different.

And notice that the Justice Department and FBI took down a rather long list of crooks in the Russiagate scandal:

Here Are All of the Indictments, Guilty Pleas and Convictions From Robert Mueller's Investigation
Here Are All of the Indictments, Guilty Pleas and Convictions From Robert Mueller's Investigation

Impressive number of perps brought to justice.

Compare to the number in the Durham fiasco:
1 indicted, and the jury found him innocent.

Benghazi:
No one indicted no crimes uncovered.

Kinda puts it all in perspective, doesn't it?
Yes it puts in perspective the obvious benefits of being a Democrat.
 
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Yes it puts in perspective the obvious benefits of being a Democrat.

Apparently not. Sandy Berger (Clinton administration) did what Trump did. He got convicted of the crime. So there is that.
 
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If you don't know about this, then you are only reading one side.

True - just look at some on the far left making all kinds of accusations after the armed raid on a President's home. The court of publican opinion has already adjudicated President Trump guilty. again and again and again.

That seems to be enough for them to scream and shout about every past accusation they have made as thought they were accurate. Look at how many believe the Mueller fiasco like it was legitimate to begin with.

They don't bring out any of the facts showing the majority of it was based on hearsay and made up stories.

Yet some hold onto it like grim death thinking if they just repeat it enough times, it will become truth. Both sides cannot be spoke of because their narrative falls to pieces.

I could be wrong, but I think a lot of Americans are not believing them anymore.
 
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Yes, we definitely lied to for two and half years. And in my opinion - we are still being lied to.

Along with a team of experienced prosecutors and attorneys, the former FBI director has indicted, convicted or gotten guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies, including top advisers to President Donald Trump, Russian spies and hackers with ties to the Kremlin. The charges range from interfering with the 2016 election and hacking emails to lying to investigators and tampering with witnesses.
Here Are All of the Indictments, Guilty Pleas and Convictions From Robert Mueller's Investigation

Denial isn't really going to do much good now, is it?
 
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Apparently not. Sandy Berger (Clinton administration) did what Trump did. He got convicted of the crime. So there is that.

Was his house raided?

Did he have armed FBI agents going through his bedroom and residence after he was caught stuffing sensitive material down his pants?

Did Sandy Berger get the files from the National Archives - Like President Trump did?
Did Sandy Berger have the authority to declassify the files - like President Trump did?

A closer look completely belies the comparison.
 
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No, they lied to you about that, too. Trump appointed the current FBI head.

You keep repeating that like is holds some type of meaning. If anything it disproves the left's narrative that President Trump surrounded himself with yes men and only those who swore loyalty to him.

You can repeat it as many times as you wish - it is pointless and in some cases it dismantles other parts of accusations against the former government.
 
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Alright, what is your evidence that the Dems didn't look over or even condone or encourage the rioting?
That's easy. The evidence is that they wanted the votes for Biden certified and those who attacked the capitol didn't.
 
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Denial isn't really going to do much good now, is it?

Tell that to Adam Schiff who lied to the public, got caught, had people in his own sphere of influence say he lied and he has not admitted it yet.

I don't think it is doing him any good at all.
 
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That's easy. The evidence is that they wanted the votes for Biden certified and those who attacked the capitol didn't.

Seems like a different issue to me. Is it?
 
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True - just look at some on the far left making all kinds of accusations after the armed raid on a President's home. The court of publican opinion has already adjudicated President Trump guilty. again and again and again.

That seems to be enough for them to scream and shout about every past accusation they have made as thought they were accurate. Look at how many believe the Mueller fiasco like it was legitimate to begin with.

They don't bring out any of the facts showing the majority of it was based on hearsay and made up stories.

Yet some hold onto it like grim death thinking if they just repeat it enough times, it will become truth. Both sides cannot be spoke of because their narrative falls to pieces.

I could be wrong, but I think a lot of Americans are not believing them anymore.
I think it plays well with their base. I look at the January 6th hearings and I believe the majority of Americans were not interested at all but the threads and posters here on CF were jumping for joy. I think some only read and watch news that suits their point of view. Just like their are some who will support Trump no matter what he is found to have done. So far this search warrant seems to be doing him more good than harm.
 
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The issue is about whether those who attacked the capitol on January sixth were Trump supporters or Antifa.

Different issue.

The issue is whether the Democrats enabled the rioters during 2020.
 
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