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Evolution Exposed

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Tut tut.. you choose to believe what you have been told in so much as it matches the way you want things to be.
but doing so will not excuse you from being accountable to God.
Which god? Everyone believes in things that they want to to be true, that include christians, muslims, budhists, hundus, and yes pastafarians it does not mean it is. Science is one of the means of testing what is true.
 
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Tut tut.. you choose to believe what you have been told in so much as it matches the way you want things to be.

Wow. Pot, kettle, black spring to mind?

And yet u display a expectation that others believe you incorrect tbeories ..hmm

17 pages in and I haven't seen anything to 'expose' evolution or show it's wrong.
 
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These pithy little one line replies aren't helping convince anyone.

You are convinced of an anti-evolution position... but seem to have nothing aside from "Nuh Uh" when people present the evidence for evolution.

Believe what you like, but at least have the honesty not to pretend you are considering our posts.
 
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These pithy little one line replies aren't helping convince anyone.

You are convinced of an anti-evolution position... but seem to have nothing aside from "Nuh Uh" when people present the evidence for evolution.

Believe what you like, but at least have the honesty not to pretend you are considering our posts.
im not trying to convince you but i am being honest :) .. your evidence (and ouh we have heard it we have had it stuffed down our throats for decades)..is constantly changing constantly unreliable and constantly disproving itself -goodness now we have science telling us the human race is one race and we have science telling us they are digging up dinosaurs bones with soft tissue ..etc .. blah blah
The point is .. the conclusion you chose to come to are exactly that .. choice .its just that so few are honest about it . you want things to be a certain way and so you filter everything your told or presented ,gathering incomplete data with extreme bias and rejecting God .
and when all is said and done you offer me no scientific or logical reason to exist.. i might as well end it all now if anything you say is true . thankfully it is not .
because as all born again christians ,having acted by faith on what God has told us,(which begins by the "choice " to turn away from our own thoughts and believe in the Lord Jesus ) i have tangibly experienced the result he promised i would and by this i know it is true ..
it is not that you cannot beleive in Him.. it is that you "will" to not believe.

and in equal honesty i "will" to not believe any evidence you think you can present. but for a different reason.being , the broken partial unreliable evidence you attempt to present leads me no where and offers me nothing .
 
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Unless its god's mechanism, not that I believe that, but some christians do.
some do choose to believe that .. but its mostly because they are losing faith .. (it may not be a thing you comprehend ).but the lord JEsus is the truth .. and truth is not governed by facts, He creates facts where there is no fact and then changes it if he so pleases .
 
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im not trying to convince you but i am being honest :) .. your evidence (and ouh we have heard it we have had it stuffed down our throats for decades)..is constantly changing constantly unreliable and constantly disproving itself -goodness now we have science telling us the human race is one race and we have science telling us they are digging up dinosaurs bones with soft tissue ..etc .. blah blah
The point is .. the conclusion you chose to come to are exactly that .. choice .its just that so few are honest about it . you want things to be a certain way and so you filter everything your told or presented ,gathering incomplete data with extreme bias and rejecting God .
and when all is said and done you offer me no scientific or logical reason to exist.. i might s well end it all now fi anything you say is true . thankfully it is not .
because as all born again christians ,having acted by faith on what God has told us,(which begins by the "choice " to turn away from our own thoughts and believe in the Lord Jesus ) i have tangibly experienced the result he promised i would and by this i know it is true ..
it is not that you cannot beleive in Him.. it is that you "will" to not believe.

and in equal honesty i "will" to not believe any evidence you think you can present. but for a different reason.being , the broken partial unreliable evidence you attempt to present leads me no where and offers me nothing .
Science changes and develops theories according to evidence. Religion ignores the evidence and closes its mind. May I suggest you stop cherry picking, ie. Seeing one piece of evidence and because that appears to your definition of the theory to contradict it, unilateraly declaring the whole theory false. Read dawkins, steven j gould and open that mind to the possibilty at least that evolution might be 'gods mechanism'.
 
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actually thats my point lol ...

and it(evolution) is wrong because it excludes God .

It does no such thing. Many theists believe in evolution, and believe that God guided the process, or set up the conditions for the process to begin. And, from a purely subjective note, a God who can craft such an intricate and powerful process using nothing but a handful of solid natural constants is far more impressive than a God who just poofs things into existence, then does a poor job cleaning up his workshop.

im not trying to convince you but i am being honest :) .. your evidence (and ouh we have heard it we have had it stuffed down our throats for decades)..is constantly changing constantly unreliable and constantly disproving itself -goodness now we have science telling us the human race is one race

Well this just got ugly.

and when all is said and done you offer me no scientific or logical reason to exist.. i might s well end it all now fi anything you say is true . thankfully it is not .

You know, I considered killing myself too the other day. After all, life is just so pointless and painful and worthless. Then the Steam Summer Sale started, I bought a whole bunch of games, and waited for the woman I love to get home so I could bury head in her cleavage. Then I stopped being a complete ninny and reminded myself, "Wait, even if this is completely pointless, I'm really, really having a good time; why would I want to stop that?

I don't understand why you need a reason to exist. Existence is its own reward. Sure, after you're gone it won't have mattered much, but neither will that trip to Six Flags next week, and yet we still do it. Why? Because even though it really doesn't matter, the rides fun anyways. Religion is really good at telling people that they need something, and then giving them that something. I don't see why I do. I don't see why I need a reason to exist beyond "existence is freakin' awesome, man!". Or, as XKCD has put it:

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the broken partial unreliable evidence you attempt to present leads me no where and offers me nothing .

What evolution in particular offers us? Hmm... Well, genetics, a field that makes no sense whatsoever without evolution, is quite possibly the single most impressive wellspring of information and progress in medicine. Evolution saves lives in the medical fields. Without an understanding of evolution, modern agriculture would be similarly impossible; it was evolution which enabled the "Green Revolution" in India which saved, by most estimates, upwards of a billion lives from starvation. Those are just the two most obvious answers.
 
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some do choose to believe that .. but its mostly because they are losing faith .. (it may not be a thing you comprehend ).but the lord JEsus is the truth .. and truth is not governed by facts, He creates facts where there is no fact and then changes it if he so pleases .
No, it's not. It's because they are willing to accept reality, God's creation if you so will, on its own terms. What sense does it make to find fossils that can be dated to millions of years old, and numerous geologic processes that take eons if the world is young? Is God a liar?
 
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some do choose to believe that .. but its mostly because they are losing faith .. (it may not be a thing you comprehend ).but the lord JEsus is the truth .. and truth is not governed by facts, He creates facts where there is no fact and then changes it if he so pleases .
And yes for all we know he created earth last tuesday at 2.16pm. LOL.
 
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Science changes and develops theories according to evidence. Religion ignores the evidence and closes its mind. May I suggest you stop cherry picking, ie. Seeing one piece of evidence and because that appears to your definition of the theory to contradict it, unilateraly declaring the whole theory false. Read dawkins, steven j gould and open that mind to the possibilty at least that evolution might be 'gods mechanism'.
It ain't , if he were so limited he would not be God. open your mind to the possibility..,.oh wait thats what you said ..oh but it only applies to non atheists? far be it from an atheist to take their own advice ;)
 
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No, it's not. It's because they are willing to accept reality, God's creation if you so will, on its own terms. What sense does it make to find fossils that can be dated to millions of years old, and numerous geologic processes that take eons if the world is young? Is God a liar?
aah there is that bias again ..fossil dating .. who made the measure which said its millions of years old ? if its millions of years old then why is soft tissue being found in the bones of the same creatures etc blah blah .
All you did was change the word facts and use the word reality and yet later you'll probably say reality is relative .. ahh the inconsistency goes on and on .. and God remains .
you see in my reality God fed 5000 people with 5 loaves and 2 fish and the crowd did not have to wait for them to evolve . you will say its a myth .. but that's what you "chose ' to believe ..
 
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It ain't , if he were so limited he would not be God. open your mind to the possibility..,.oh wait thats what you said ..oh but it only applies to non atheists? far be it from an atheist to take their own advice ;)
Oh i've opened my mind, but with zero evidence to support creationist theology and ample evidence to support evolution, the results are in. Unless you are claiming that god has faked the evidence, in which case his word is worthless, as phony as a 9 dollar note. Apologies for my bluntness but uf god is omniscient, all powerful it must be asked why does all evidence point to evolution.
 
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actually thats my point lol ...

and it(evolution) is wrong because it excludes God .

Is the theory of gravity wrong because it doesn't include God? Is the complicated science behind the device you are reading this on wrong because it doesn't incude God?

The majority of Christians worldwide accept evolution.
 
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aah there is that bias again ..fossil dating .. who made the measure which said its millions of years old ? if its millions of years old then why is soft tissue being found in the bones of the same creatures etc blah blah .
All you did was change the word facts and use the word reality and yet later you'll probably say reality is relative .. ahh the inconsistency goes on and on .. and God remains .
you see in my reality God fed 5000 people with 5 loaves and 2 fish and the crowd did not have to wait for them to evolve . you will say its a myth .. but that's what you "chose ' to believe .. i do wish more atheists would at least be honest .
and the Good news is .. if we turn away from our own way and choose to believe in the Lord Jesus he then acknowledge that choice :)
but thats never something you will know until you choose to and coms the day when that choice will no longer be afforded you .
Heres the explanation for the tissue http://m.livescience.com/41537-t-rex-soft-tissue.html
Unlike religion when science sees a discrepancy it investigates and incorporates the new evidence.

Just think if the old testement declared that before the fall adam and eve flouted on air we would be debating the theory of gravity. Lol.
 
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And yes for all we know he created earth last tuesday at 2.16pm. LOL.
oh ..yes lets make cheap jokes because that proves ..oh ummm, it proves you can make cheap jokes i guess

i had a blind date with a blonde but we never met ,because she told me to meet her on the corner of walk & dont walk and hung up .-there cheap joke in return.:)
 
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Apologies for my bluntness but uf god is omniscient, all powerful it must be asked why does all evidence point to evolution.
It points to microevolution.

But then it doesn't stop there.

Just like Jehu went overboard with his commission to eliminate Baal worship in Israel, evolution goes overboard and makes shipwreck of Genesis 1.
 
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