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Evolution Exposed

Goonie

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What goes around, comes around ... right?

Throw the baby out with the bathwater?
Which baby? If one of the creation stories was right, the evidence should support it, unfortunately this does not appear to be the case.
 
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Which baby?
The Bible.
Goonie said:
If one of the creation stories was right, the evidence should support it,
Why?

If it was a miracle, what evidence would you expect to find?

There were some miracles that simply didn't generate any evidence, and Genesis 1 is a series of one miracle after another.

Think about it.

The amount of mass/energy started out at zero, then was raised to its current level over a periond of six days.

And you expect to see evidence for that?
 
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Who said it was a miracle?
Well, let's see.

In the beginning, God issues a series of voice commands -- and when all is finished, there's a universe up and running and configured for life.

Looks like a miracle to me.
 
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Well, let's see.

In the beginning, God issues a series of voice commands -- and when all is finished, there's a universe up and running and configured for life.

Looks like a miracle to me.

You were there?
 
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The Author took up residence inside of me.

Of course He did... just as He took up residence inside of all the people who disagree with you...
 
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Including you?

I was thinking of other self-identifying Christians -- they disagree with you on a lot of points, and their motivations aren't nearly as self-serving as your own.

Or do you agree with me?

About what? You still weren't there, and the only person who benefits from the claim of "the Author dwelling" inside you is you.
 
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I was thinking of other self-identifying Christians -- they disagree with you on a lot of points,
That's their prerogative.

But, quite frankly, what's that to you?

Would it matter if they didn't disagree with me?

After all, every one of us who have the Holy Spirit agree on one thing: IN THE BEGINNING, GOD.
 
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That's their prerogative.

But, quite frankly, what's that to you?

Would it matter if they didn't disagree with me?

After all, every one of us who have the Holy Spirit agree on one thing: IN THE BEGINNING, GOD.
And to others the flying spaghetti monster. Lol.
 
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The Bible.Why?

If it was a miracle, what evidence would you expect to find?

There were some miracles that simply didn't generate any evidence, and Genesis 1 is a series of one miracle after another.

Think about it.

The amount of mass/energy started out at zero, then was raised to its current level over a periond of six days.

And you expect to see evidence for that?
Instead we see evidence of billions of years, and they say god is not the author of confusion.
 
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Instead we see evidence of billions of years,
Science is myopic.

I was legally blind at one time, and I "saw" things that weren't what I thought they were.
 
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That's their prerogative.

What about God's prerogative? Doesn't He get a say?

But, quite frankly, what's that to you?

Would it matter if they didn't disagree with me?

There are plenty of matters on which they don't disagree with you -- but as you say, what's that to me?

You see, AV, it's really quite simple -- you say it, and I'm supposed to believe you because you "have the Author dwelling in you."

But since the others also have the Author dwelling in them, why shouldn't I believe their less self-serving statements over yours?

After all, every one of us who have the Holy Spirit agree on one thing: IN THE BEGINNING, GOD.

And that's where the agreement stops.
 
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Science is myopic.

I was legally blind at one time, and I "saw" things that weren't what I thought they were.

Science is myopic, the faith you propose is willfully blind.

Not a tough choice.
 
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