livingword26 said:
What do you think my interpretation of them is and what do you think they actually say? I assume that you know what they actually say since you know that my interpretation is wrong
I'm sorry, I haven't read all the posts, so I don't know your interpretation.
Does your interpretation conflict with these verses? (These have a few editor comments to help you understand them.)
Mt 18:12,14 What do you think? If any man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go and search for the one that is straying? Thus it is
not the will of your Father who is in heaven that
one of these little ones perish.
Lk 2:10 And the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid; for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy which shall be
for all the people."
Lk 15:4-7 What man among you, if he has a hundred sheep and has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open pasture, and
go after the one which is lost,
until he finds it? And
when [Ed., not if] he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing... I tell you that in the same way, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents, than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
Lk 23:34 Jesus said, "
Father forgive them; they know not what they do."
[Ed., This incredible request by Jesus, together with His suffering and death on the cross for the sins of the world, becomes the ultimate picture and the eternal symbol of the heart and intention of God toward lost humanity. Furthermore, this declaration of God's ultimate redemptive purposes was made, eternally speaking, from the beginning of time, by "the lamb slain from the foundation of the world"! (Rev 13:8)]
Jn 1:29 The next day he [John the Baptist] saw Jesus coming to him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away
the sin of
the world!"
[Ed., "the sin" is in the singular, indicating the complete removal of the "sin principle", or sin itself with all of its consequences, not just the individual acts of sin.]
Jn 3:17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world; but that
the world should be saved through Him.
Jn 12:32
And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.
[Ed., This is as clear a statement on the subject as any in scripture, a promise made by Christ Himself!]
Acts 3;20-21And that He may send Jesus, the Christ appointed for you, whom heaven must receive until the times of
the restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time.
Rom 5:18-20 So then as through one transgression [Adam's] there resulted
condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness [Christ's] there resulted justification of
life to all men. For as through the one man's disobedience
the many were made sinners, even so through the obedience of the One,
the many will be made righteous. And the Law came in that the transgression might increase; but
where sin increased, grace abounded all the more!
[Ed., As J.B. Phillips so succinctly puts it, "Grace is the ruling factor!"]
Rom 8:19-21 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the
creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but
because of Him who subjected it in hope, that
the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God.
Rom 11:15 For if their rejection [i.e., the Jew's rejection of Christ] be
the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?
Rom 11:25 For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of
this mystery, lest you be wise in your own estimation, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until
the fulness of the Gentiles has come in; and thus
all Israel will be saved.
Rom 11:32,33For God has
shut up all in disobedience that He might show
mercy to all. Oh the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways!
Rom 11;36 For
from Him [Christ] and
through Him and
to Him are
all things. To Him be the glory forever. Amen.
Rom 14:4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and
stand he will, for the Lord is able to
make him stand.
Rom 14:11 For as it is written, "As I live", says the Lord, "
every knee shall bow to me [ie. repentance], and
every tongue shall give praise to God". [ie. worship]
I Cor 3:15 If any man's work is burned up, he shall suffer
loss; but
he himself shall be saved, yet so as
through fire.
I Cor 5:4,5 In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, deliver such a one to Satan for the
destruction of his flesh, that his
spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. [See I Peter 4:6!]
I Cor 13:8
Love never fails.
[Ed., It bears repeating: "Love never fails!" God is love. His love can not fail! To lose even one would mean that love failed to find and save that one. To lose millions for eternity, as some believe, would mean that love failed miserably and completely! However, His plan, His purpose, His desire, and His nature has always been and always will be love for His creation!]
I Cor 15:22,28For as
in Adam all die, so also
in Christ all shall be made alive.
But each in his own order... [Ed., This phrase is the real key to understanding God's purposes in relation to His time schedule.] "And when
all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, that
God may be all in all."
[Ed., Paul sees clearly to the end, and makes this ultimate and most concise declaration of the eternal purposes of God!]
I Cor 15:54 But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory."
[Ed., "The last enemy to be destroyed is death" (I Cor 15:26)...This refers to all death, both physical death and spiritual death. Then the only thing that shall remain is...Life!]
II Cor 5:14,15 For the love of Christ controls us, having concluded this, that one died for
all, therefore
all died; and
He died for all, that they should no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf.
II Cor 5:18
Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ, and gave us the
ministry of reconciliation, namely, that
God was [Ed., and is] in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and
He has committed to us the word of reconciliation.
Gal 3:8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God
would justify the nations by faith, preached
the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "
All the nations shall be blessed in you."
[Ed., According to Paul, then, preaching the reconciliation of all is in fact preaching the gospel.]
Eph 1:9,10 He make known to us
the mystery of His will, according to
His kind intention which He purposed in Him with a view to an administration suitable to the fulness of the times, that is,
the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things upon the earth.
Eph 1:22,23 And He put
all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church, which is His body, the fulness of Him
who fills all in all.
Eph 3:8-11 To me [Paul]...this grace was given...to bring to light what is the administration of
the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God, who created all things; in order that the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known through the church to the rulers and the authorities in the heavenly places. This was in accordance with
the eternal purpose which He carried out in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Eph 4:5,6 There is...one God and Father
of all who is
over all and
through all and
in all.
Eph 4:10 He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens,
that He might fill all things.
Phil 2:9-11 Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus
every knee should bow, of those who are
in heaven, and
on earth, and
under the earth, and that
every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
[Ed., Remember that "No one can say, 'Jesus is Lord,' except by the Holy Spirit." I Cor 12:3]
Phil 3;21 ...who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of
the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.
Col 1:19-22 For it was the Father's good pleasure for all the fulness to dwell in Him,
and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether
things on earth or
things in heaven. And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds,
yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and blameless and beyond reproach.
[Ed., How could Paul state it any more clearly!]
Col 3:11 Christ
is all, and
in all.
[Ed., All creation is birthed in Christ; all creation remains in Christ; but not all of creation has been awakened to Christ ("Awake, sleeper, and arise from the dead, and Christ will give thee light." Eph 5:14)]
I Tim 1:13 Even though I [Paul] was formerly a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent aggressor, yet
I was shown mercy, because I acted ignorantly in unbelief.
[Ed., If the prerequisite for mercy is ignorance and unbelief, then who will fail to qualify?]
I Tim 1:15Christ Jesus came into the world to
save sinners, among whom I [Paul] am
foremost.
[Ed., Again, if Paul is the foremost sinner, then hasn't God's plan of redemption been accomplished to the foremost?]
I Tim 2:5,6 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave Himself as
a ransom for all,
the testimony to be borne at the proper time.
[Ed., An alternate translation reads: "to be testified (lit."witnessed") in due times..."(ie. "each in his own order"...I Cor 15:22)]
I Tim 4:10It is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is
the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
[Ed., Only believers are privileged with an opportunity to escape the coming wrath and experience the fruits of the Spirit and the blessings of the kingdom in this life, as well as in the coming ages.]
Titus 2:11For the grace of God has appeared, bringing
salvation to all men.
Heb 1:2In these last days He has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed
heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.
Heb 2:8 For in subjecting all things to him [ie., man], He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him...But we do see Him who has been made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that
by the grace of God He might taste death for every one.
Heb 9:26 But now once at the consummation
He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
[Ed., Though not yet evident, sin will finally be completely put away, and all creation, which is waiting anxiously for its redemption (Rom 8:19), will be set free!]
I Pet 2:12 Keep your behavior excellent among
the Gentiles, so that in the thing in which they slander you as evildoers, they may on account of your good deeds, as they observe them,
glorify God in the day of visitation.
I Pet 3:18-20 For Christ also died for sins once
for all, the just for the unjust, in order that He might bring us to God, having been
put to death in the flesh, but
made alive in the spirit; in which also He went and made proclamation to the spirits in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah...
I Pet 4:6 For the gospel has for this purpose been preached even to those who are dead, that even though they are
judged in the flesh as men, they may
live in the spirit according to the will of God. (see I Cor 5:5)
[Ed., Peter is still referring to the souls in prison from the days of Noah, whom Christ preached to, presumably following His crucifixion and descension into the "lower parts of the earth", in which He "lead captive a host of captives..." (Ephes 4:8,9). This is a remarkable revelation given to Peter concerning the purpose of God's judgements on mankind in order to bring about his future plans for them to live in the Spirit!]
II Pet 3:8,9 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow about
His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you,
not willing [literally "not purposing", from the Greek: boulema, "predetermined purpose"]
that any should perish but for
all to come to repentance.
[Ed., His promise is still the original promise given to Abraham, that ..."in you all the families of the earth will be blessed."]
I John 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation [ie., satisfaction or appeasement] for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of
the whole world.
I John 4:14 And we have beheld and bear witness that the Father has sent the Son to be
the Savior of the world
And I don't know if anything I wrote is actually true..... it's just a belief which makes sense to me. But beliefs are like opinions, so maybe I'm wrong and someone else is right... that's why I'm open to different views.
