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!!!!! Ebola !!!!
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Talking about the military involvement IS talking about ebola. Even though the military has been cut to pre-WWII levels (and our overseas military are already receiving "pink slips") they have been sent to fight ebola in west Africa. There no is attempt to stop travel from west-Africa and no attempt to close the border. Oh, and the quarantine protocols that the CDC wanted were quietly dumped back in 2010.
Oh, and we are told nothing but "wash your hands".
Oh, and we are told nothing but "wash your hands".
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Why not do something helpful instead. Close travel to west-Africa. Close the border. Anyone that has had contact with someone from west-Africa goes into quarantine. (I believe the incubation period for ebola is 21 days.) And it would be helpful to note the symptoms expected for ebola. (Maybe then we wouldn't have a hospital sending the patient who HAD ebola home from the hospital with some antibiotics even though he HAD lied about being in contact with an ebola patient in order to get on that plane to come to Dallas.)
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And what is handing out "some antibiotics" going to achieve?
Antibiotic resistance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Somehow the hospital didn't realize the man had ebola and sent him home instead of quarantining him. Didn't you know? The man returned in an ambulance four days later. (I guess the ambulance workers are now among those folks that are at high risk of contracting the disease.)
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I'm familiar with the situation. But what's handing out handfuls of generic antibiotics meant to achieve?
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Confirmation?
It wouldn't surprise me, though. There is only so long you can continue to bring infected patients over international borders and drop them off in heavily population densities before it sticks, and stays. It is in the States.
Let's see if people who has not recently been to West Africa begin to get it. Or, rather, how quickly it takes.
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I thought everybody actually read the news:
Some DID get it outside of West Africa, in Spain.
News from The Associated Press
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Ah, the nurse. Yeah last time I bothered to look at the ticker they hadn't confirmed whether the nurse had ebola. This is very recent.
But, I do try to stray away from the news. AP is O.K. sometimes. Makes you wonder...the Africans have an excuse: contact culture, poor working conditions, and lack of protective gear. And yet, Healthcare professionals who wear protective gear, and practice proper hand washing techniques, are getting it. Scores of them.
And, they keep "finding out" after shedding/incubation, when symptoms show (i.e. when contagious.)
And, this nurse started showing symptoms on holiday. The whole thing speaks of negligence and/or ignorance.
But, I do try to stray away from the news. AP is O.K. sometimes. Makes you wonder...the Africans have an excuse: contact culture, poor working conditions, and lack of protective gear. And yet, Healthcare professionals who wear protective gear, and practice proper hand washing techniques, are getting it. Scores of them.
And, they keep "finding out" after shedding/incubation, when symptoms show (i.e. when contagious.)
And, this nurse started showing symptoms on holiday. The whole thing speaks of negligence and/or ignorance.
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Idealistic? Quarantine had ALWAYS been used to stop epidemics before. That and before, we were always told EXACTLY what the symptoms are and how to avoid the disease. (Even the bird-flu pandemic that never happened was treated with greater caution.)
Anyone here know EXACTLY what one has to avoid? People from Africa. Okay, got that. (Husband had a doctor's appointment today and that was one of the questions--any travel to Africa? It was asked even though it was obvious that husband couldn't even walk very far, much less do any traveling to a less developed country without advanced medical centers.) What else? Is it known that we must avoid dogs that have been exposed? (While the animals won't come down with it, the poor animals carry the disease and will pass it on to others--hope that one mayor who refuses to put that dog down changes his mind.) What else? Granted we'll avoid the projectile vomiting and the blood dripping out of all orifices of infected people. What else? Let's see, there's muscle aches and a high fever. (Sounds like the beginning of the flu. Some doctors say to get a flu shot so there will be less chance of being thought of as having ebola.) And granted, we'll be avoiding the infected urine and other bodily fluids but sweat is also to be avoided, and the bug lives for about six hours on things an infected person has touched. Oh yes, according to one disease control agency, the disease has the POTENTIAL to be airborne (we don't really know how the nurse contracted it through her Hazmat suit and we surely can't simply guess that we should be able to blame the victim) a simple mask is not going to "cut it". Some sort of ventilator will probably be necessary as the contagion rages. (Droplets of disease in the air one knows.)
Expensive? NOT taking precautions will be the expensive part. The disease kills 90% of the time, IT WILL TAKE SIX MONTHS before we can make more of the serum that "cured" the doctor, and it's never been tested so just about all the lawyers will be saying "NO". And think, what do you imagine will happen when folks start pulling their children out of school (don't want to take a risk) and not going shopping, etc.? Our economy will go "bye-bye", that's what. Since we cannot simply TRUST people to voluntarily quarantine themselves (the parents of the dead ebola patient sending their children to school against CDC recommendations, and that nurse going out for some soup even though she was exposed proves that), Martial law will be declared to FORCE the thousands of people the CDC says will have be exposed by Christmas to remain in their homes and NOT expose others. It's going to be a mess.
Stop the flights FROM ebola stricken countries. Quarantine those who have already been exposed. Close the porous Southern Border. That's not fantasy talking. That's just common sense. You know other countries have been smart and have restricted flights OUT (but not INTO) the ebola stricken countries. At least THEY are doing something right by their people.
Anyone here know EXACTLY what one has to avoid? People from Africa. Okay, got that. (Husband had a doctor's appointment today and that was one of the questions--any travel to Africa? It was asked even though it was obvious that husband couldn't even walk very far, much less do any traveling to a less developed country without advanced medical centers.) What else? Is it known that we must avoid dogs that have been exposed? (While the animals won't come down with it, the poor animals carry the disease and will pass it on to others--hope that one mayor who refuses to put that dog down changes his mind.) What else? Granted we'll avoid the projectile vomiting and the blood dripping out of all orifices of infected people. What else? Let's see, there's muscle aches and a high fever. (Sounds like the beginning of the flu. Some doctors say to get a flu shot so there will be less chance of being thought of as having ebola.) And granted, we'll be avoiding the infected urine and other bodily fluids but sweat is also to be avoided, and the bug lives for about six hours on things an infected person has touched. Oh yes, according to one disease control agency, the disease has the POTENTIAL to be airborne (we don't really know how the nurse contracted it through her Hazmat suit and we surely can't simply guess that we should be able to blame the victim) a simple mask is not going to "cut it". Some sort of ventilator will probably be necessary as the contagion rages. (Droplets of disease in the air one knows.)
Expensive? NOT taking precautions will be the expensive part. The disease kills 90% of the time, IT WILL TAKE SIX MONTHS before we can make more of the serum that "cured" the doctor, and it's never been tested so just about all the lawyers will be saying "NO". And think, what do you imagine will happen when folks start pulling their children out of school (don't want to take a risk) and not going shopping, etc.? Our economy will go "bye-bye", that's what. Since we cannot simply TRUST people to voluntarily quarantine themselves (the parents of the dead ebola patient sending their children to school against CDC recommendations, and that nurse going out for some soup even though she was exposed proves that), Martial law will be declared to FORCE the thousands of people the CDC says will have be exposed by Christmas to remain in their homes and NOT expose others. It's going to be a mess.
Stop the flights FROM ebola stricken countries. Quarantine those who have already been exposed. Close the porous Southern Border. That's not fantasy talking. That's just common sense. You know other countries have been smart and have restricted flights OUT (but not INTO) the ebola stricken countries. At least THEY are doing something right by their people.
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