Earth in hot water? Worries over sudden ocean warming spike

[AV1611VET]

There's no point discussing science with you when your blinkers are set by an inaccurate understanding of how to read Genesis.

It's not my fault you can't cram a 300 million year process into 239 years.

I always maintain that science moves decimal points as necessary to make their theories stick.

And this is a prime example.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Floridians are relocating to the center of the state to try to avoid hurricanes — and high insurance premiums​

• Ocala has the lowest risk of coastal flooding in Florida, analytics platform Climate Alpha found.
• One real-estate agent has seen an influx of people from South Florida seeking "peace and security."
• It's an emerging bright spot as the state undergoes an "insurance crisis."

In Florida's Housing Market, Insurance-Free Homes Become Big Selling Point​

A significant number of Florida's homeowners and agents trying to offload their properties are trying to attract buyers with the promise of not having to pay for flood insurance—an appealing prospect as the state faces an ongoing insurance crisis.

These listings show that Florida sellers are acutely aware of how the skyrocketing cost of home insurance has become one of the main reasons that's discouraging potential homebuyers from purchasing. According to the Insurance Information Institute (Triple-I), the average Florida homeowner's insurance premium is $6,000—a 42 percent jump from 2022.

 

[The Barbarian]

In Florida's Housing Market, Insurance-Free Homes Become Big Selling Point​

A significant number of Florida's homeowners and agents trying to offload their properties are trying to attract buyers with the promise of not having to pay for flood insurance—an appealing prospect as the state faces an ongoing insurance crisis.

These listings show that Florida sellers are acutely aware of how the skyrocketing cost of home insurance has become one of the main reasons that's discouraging potential homebuyers from purchasing. According to the Insurance Information Institute (Triple-I), the average Florida homeowner's insurance premium is $6,000—a 42 percent jump from 2022.

Oh, but it's all alarmists that are doing this. They've fooled all the insurance companies, realtors, and property owners. It's all a hoax.

Unless you have to insure your home in Florida. Then climate change blindsides you in the pocketbook.

 

[The Barbarian]

I always maintain that science moves decimal points as necessary to make their theories stick.

"They're lying!!! All of them are LYINNNNGGGG!!!"

Sure.

 

[Estrid]

In Florida's Housing Market, Insurance-Free Homes Become Big Selling Point​

A significant number of Florida's homeowners and agents trying to offload their properties are trying to attract buyers with the promise of not having to pay for flood insurance—an appealing prospect as the state faces an ongoing insurance crisis.

These listings show that Florida sellers are acutely aware of how the skyrocketing cost of home insurance has become one of the main reasons that's discouraging potential homebuyers from purchasing. According to the Insurance Information Institute (Triple-I), the average Florida homeowner's insurance premium is $6,000—a 42 percent jump from 2022.

What does that have to do with agw

"They're lying!!! All of them are LYINNNNGGGG!!!"

Sure.

It's routine for people to accuse others of their own sine.

 

[essentialsaltes]

What does that have to do with age

The change in the climate is increasing the frequency and severity of hurricanes in the Atlantic. This has increased the risk of flooding in Florida (and elsewhere). This has increased the costs of insurance. The invisible hand of capitalism is acting to drive people away from places endangered by climate change.

 

[eclipsenow]

In Florida's Housing Market, Insurance-Free Homes Become Big Selling Point​

A significant number of Florida's homeowners and agents trying to offload their properties are trying to attract buyers with the promise of not having to pay for flood insurance—an appealing prospect as the state faces an ongoing insurance crisis.

These listings show that Florida sellers are acutely aware of how the skyrocketing cost of home insurance has become one of the main reasons that's discouraging potential homebuyers from purchasing. According to the Insurance Information Institute (Triple-I), the average Florida homeowner's insurance premium is $6,000—a 42 percent jump from 2022.

This is how I think we'll see changes in Australia as well - with bushfire insurance for smaller communities becoming more and more expensive. Unless they bulldoze 500 metres of land around their town - but then they're just in paddocks - not in the woods any more - which kind of ruins the whole point anyway.
And we've seen dozens of fires race across 500 metres of tinder dry grass in past bushfires.

 

[The Barbarian]

What does that have to do with agw

Severe storms cause huge losses for insurance companies. So they raise rates to cover their losses. And now, the losses have been so high that it's hard to get affordable coverage on the Gulf coast.

I always maintain that science moves decimal points as necessary to make their theories stick.

"They're lying!!! All of them are LYINNNNGGGG!!!"

Sure.

It's routine for people to accuse others of their own sine.

Maybe so.

 

[Estrid]

Severe storms cause huge losses for insurance companies. So they raise rates to cover their losses. And now, the losses have been so high that it's hard to get affordable coverage on the Gulf coast.


"They're lying!!! All of them are LYINNNNGGGG!!!"

Sure.


Maybe so.

No maybe to it.
It's known as psychological projection.

Not that all accusations are false, but
with others the more they holler
about Sin, the more you know who's
the guilty one.

 

[AV1611VET]

"They're lying!!! All of them are LYINNNNGGGG!!!"

Those are your words.

Not mine.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's routine for people to accuse others of their own sine.

 

[AV1611VET]

Maybe so.

In almost twenty years here, I think I've only accused one or two people of lying.

That's not my style.

I've come close -- but I won't do it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Earth in hot water?

'Bout time she got a warm bath.

 

[The Barbarian]

I always maintain that science moves decimal points as necessary to make their theories stick.

"They're lying!!! All of them are LYINNNNGGGG!!!"
Sure.

Those are your words.

You accused scientists of moving decimal points to make their theories "stick." Those are your words, not mine. If you're going to do that, at least stand up and admit it.

 

[AV1611VET]

You accused scientists of moving decimal points to make their theories "stick."

That's right.

But then, I don't have to accuse them.

Anyone can see they doing it.

Those are your words, not mine.

Okay.

If you're going to do that, at least stand up and admit it.

You first.

 

[The Barbarian]

You accused scientists of moving decimal points to make their theories "stick."

That's right.

But you can't support your accusation that this is what scientists do.

But then, I don't have to accuse them.

If so, it's hard to understand why you keep doing it.

Anyone can see they doing it.

But you can't show that it's a common practice? We all know why. If you're going to do that, at least stand up and admit it.

You first

I know better than to make accusations like that. You don't have to support your accusations. But we all notice.

 

[AV1611VET]

But you can't show that it's a common practice?

It's more common than you think.

I'd venture to say even you've done it.

 

[Ophiolite]

It's more common than you think.

I'd venture to say even you've done it.

That is insulting and potentially libellous, despite your ambiguous "venture to say". I recommend you either provide evidence to support your suspicion or withdraw it and offer @The Barbarian an apology.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is insulting and potentially libellous, despite your ambiguous "venture to say". I recommend you either provide evidence to support your suspicion or withdraw it and offer @The Barbarian an apology.

And let me guess.

You haven't?

If you never have, then what do you do with the decimal place when science says it took something 1000 years to form, then later changes it to 10,000?

 

[essentialsaltes]

If you never have, then what do you do with the decimal place when science says it took something 1000 years to form, then later changes it to 10,000?

There are two cases.

If the theory accommodates both 1,000 years and 10,000 years, then the new evidence or analysis doesn't make the theory stick.
If the theory doesn't, then the new evidence or analysis causes a modification or replacement of the theory, which doesn't make the theory stick.