Does this sound like civil war?

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Policy of the day called for bombing Germany! What a Attitude!

Better label history as harmful.

Better do it with everything today, what isn't
clearly harmful yet will be seen as soon enough.

You Americans may not even have your
country long enough to even get to that point.

Our Constitution literally says that a black person counts as 3/5 of a human being. If that doesn't reflect a bias of its time, then nothing does.
 
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As an American, I agree wholeheartedly. Problem is, it's not just some groups of people doing this. It's being orchestrated within our leadership, which means we're being destroyed from within.

So... how much of a human being does a black person count as, again?
 
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Securing our national borders was not a past mistake. Withdrawing American troops in a haphazard way from Afghanistan that cost hundreds of lives and abandoned hundreds of Americans to the Taliban certainly was.

Feel free to start a new thread to wring hands about those issues. This one is about the looming specter of Civil War...
 
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Our Constitution literally says that a black person counts as 3/5 of a human being. If that doesn't reflect a bias of its time, then nothing does.

I guess nothing does then, for lo, the constitution of the USA
most definitely does not so state.
See " root of all evil" :D
Ask any of us foreigners. We know about things.

We even know his to recognize a sidestep into total irrelevance
which is what your response is, besides, that is, being fake news.
 
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Our Constitution literally says that a black person counts as 3/5 of a human being. If that doesn't reflect a bias of its time, then nothing does.

Feel free to start a new thread to wring hands about those issues. This one is about the looming specter of Civil War...

I hope you take your advice.
 
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I guess nothing does then, for lo, the constitution of the USA
most definitely does not so state.
See " root of all evil" :D
Ask any of us foreigners. We know about things.

Article I, Section ii -- The "Three-Fifths" Compromise.

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."
 
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That's what one does to find treasure.

In this case, though, there no treasure, you are doubling down on your
earlier mistake.

If you don't believe me, just ask the boy from Tupelo.
He's the king and he outta know. Or google.
 
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I hope you take your advice.

Just doing my best to help you after you wandered off the reservation around post #75.

I hope you don't do it again.
 
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In this case, though, there no treasure, you are doubling down on your
earlier mistake.

If you don't believe me, just ask the boy from Tupelo.
He's the king and he outta know. Or google.

What mistake?
 
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Article I, Section ii -- The "Three-Fifths" Compromise.

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."[/QGoogle.
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Tripling down!
 
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Article I, Section ii -- The "Three-Fifths" Compromise.

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons."

The U.S. Constitution does not relegate blacks to “three-fifths of a person” status. Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution states: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.” The “other Persons” were slaves.
Understanding the three-fifths compromise | Constitutional Accountability Center
 
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The U.S. Constitution does not relegate blacks to “three-fifths of a person” status. Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution states: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.” The “other Persons” were slaves.
Understanding the three-fifths compromise | Constitutional Accountability Center

Good job! Now, for the follow-up question: Who were the slaves?
 
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