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Does this sound like civil war?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by Aldebaran, Sep 7, 2021.

  1. Aldebaran

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    Rather than the United States issuing sanctions against other countries for sponsoring terrorism, or oppressing their people, we now have parts of this country issuing sanctions against other parts of the country.

    "Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler announced on Friday that Portland City Council will vote on an emergency resolution on Wednesday with the intent to ban city business and employee travel related to the state of Texas."
    Portland City Council to vote on ending trade and travel with Texas in response to abortion restrictions

    "The infamous U.S. sanction strategy in foreign policy now is now being used to ‘deal with’ internal issues

    The controversial Texas law, that bans abortions as early as six weeks is now in effect. It was signed into law back in May by Gov. Greg Abbott. It was widely criticized not only by women’s rights advocates, abortion activists and abortion providers, but also by other states’ officials.

    The Portland City Council is going to consider to adopt an emergency resolution next week that will be aimed to ban goods and services from Texas, because of the new abortion law there."
    Economic War Comes Home: Portland Urges Imposition Of Sanctions Against Texas - Srnola News

     
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  2. ToddNotTodd

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    It sounds like consequences resulting from actions. And the only people I hear clamoring for civil war are those on the right. During my brief time on Parler, I couldn’t count the number of people who were sayings things like “the only good Democrat is a dead Democratic” and “We have to take the country back by force”.
     
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  3. Desk trauma

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    No, it does not sound like civil war.
     
  4. Aldebaran

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    And yet it's those on the LEFT, in Portland, who are not only clamoring for it, but getting it started. However, you have my permission to deflect attention to "the right" all you want.
     
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  5. ToddNotTodd

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    I'll need some citation that show that people in Portland are clamoring for civil war. Actual quotes from people saying that.

    And pointing out actual examples of calls for civil war isn't deflection. I'm educating you on what wanting a civil war actually looks like.
     
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  6. anna ~ grace

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    That is absolutely bizarre. I’ve never heard of a state putting sanctions on another state. That’s kind of insane; like Oregon is behaving as though it and Texas are the United States and Russia. That’s really weird.
     
  7. Desk trauma

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    When did Portland become a state?
     
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  8. GoldenBoy89

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    It’s also only one side that still defends and even carries the confederate battle flag and spend an inordinate amount of effort trying to preserve monuments to the confederate generals who waged civil war on the United States.
     
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  9. anna ~ grace

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    Sorry, Oregon. That’s still weird, though.
     
  10. Sketcher

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    It's definitely not good, but the years leading up to the Civil War were a lot worse.
     
  11. TLK Valentine

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    Are you somehow under the impression that this is a recent phenomenon?
     
  12. Desk trauma

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    The state government of Oregon didn’t do anything, the city council of Portland did.
     
  13. Aldebaran

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    Civil war by any other name is still civil war.
     
  14. Aldebaran

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    It is simply attempting to educate those who are driven by fear of statues.
     
  15. Nithavela

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    It's not civil war until people actually shoot at each other.

    You know.. more than usual for the USA.
     
  16. GoldenBoy89

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    We don’t have monuments to Hitler yet kids somehow still manage to learn a thing or two about the guy in school. There’s no need to glorify and commemorate our racist history but my point was that there’s only one side really pushing the whole civil war thing and it ain’t the side trying to take down those monuments.
     
  17. essentialsaltes

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    Hahaha. "Infamous." What a riot.
     
  18. Aldebaran

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    Not really. That would be a "hot" civil war for sure, but civil war can be economic (or at least start out that way) and then escalate. Even countries can be at war without shooting at each other. When cities or states within a country do it, it's called a "civil" war. Banning travel, good, and services relating to a region within your own country is certainly not a sign of wanting unity.
     
  19. Nithavela

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    Are we rooting for the war to become hot?
     
  20. Aldebaran

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    Not the same side? It's the exact same city! Portland Protesters Tore Down Statues of Presidents. New Rules May Keep Them Mothballed.
     
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