Does the Roman Church focus on Peter too much

[holdon]

And you guys have problems with how Catholics use the bible. Just look at your responses. Putting scripture into context. looking at cultural traditions. You guys are sounding more and more Catholic as this thread goes on.

But I am Catholic. Don't you think for a moment that you can arrogate that term to yourselves only....

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

And you guys have problems with how Catholics use the bible. Just look at your responses. Putting scripture into context. looking at cultural traditions. You guys are sounding more and more Catholic as this thread goes on.

I am a "catholic"
I decided to bring this topic up on the TAW board

http://christianforums.com/t6967742...c-focuses-on-peter-too-much.html#post44269432
do-the-orthodox-believe-the-rcc-focuses-on-peter-too-much

 

[mont974x4]

And you guys have problems with how Catholics use the bible. Just look at your responses. Putting scripture into context. looking at cultural traditions. You guys are sounding more and more Catholic as this thread goes on.

LOL Well, we are Christians, members of the catholic (universal) Church determined to study and show ourselves approved rightly handling the Word and desiring to not fall into the traps of rome and other false teachers/teachings.


Thanks for noticing.

 

[ScottBot]

But I am Catholic. Don't you think for a moment that you can arrogate that term to yourselves only....

Cool, which Mass do you prefer? Novus Ordo or Tridentine? Or do you prefer Byzantine liturgy? Melkite?

 

[ScottBot]

LOL Well, we are Christians, members of the catholic (universal) Church determined to study and show ourselves approved rightly handling the Word and desiring to not fall into the traps of rome and other false teachers/teachings.


Thanks for noticing.

Ya, Rome is a nightmare of pitfalls and oubliettes so the Jesuits can bring people to the correct understanding of Christianity. Good observation.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Cool, which Mass do you prefer? Novus Ordo or Tridentine? Or do you prefer Byzantine liturgy? Melkite?

I don't celebrate mass.

1 corin 11:26 For as often ever ye may be eating the bread, this, and the drink-cup ye may be drinking, the death of the Lord ye are according-messaging/kataggellete <2605> (5719) until which ever He may be coming/elqh <2064> (5632)

Reve 19:11 And I perceived the heaven having be opened and Lo! A horse, white and the One sitting on it/him being called Faithful and True and in justice He is judging and is battling.

http://christianforums.com/t6823406-question-on-reve-1911.html

 

[holdon]

Cool, which Mass do you prefer? Novus Ordo or Tridentine? Or do you prefer Byzantine liturgy? Melkite?

"Mass"??? Where is that found in the Scriptures?

 

[ScottBot]

I don't celebrate mass.

1 corin 11:26 For as often ever ye may be eating the bread, this, and the drink-cup ye may be drinking, the death of the Lord ye are according-messaging/kataggellete <2605> (5719) until which ever He may be coming/elqh <2064> (5632)

Reve 19:11 And I perceived the heaven having be opened and Lo! A horse, white and the One sitting on it/him being called Faithful and True and in justice He is judging and is battling.

http://christianforums.com/t6823406-question-on-reve-1911.html

That's too bad. I'll light a candle for you tomorrow morning.

 

[ScottBot]

"Mass"??? Where is that found in the Scriptures?

Where is "Peter is the oldest apostle" found in the Scriptures?

 

[holdon]

Where is "Peter is the oldest apostle" found in the Scriptures?

No, but it's tradition: not important. How important is Mass for you?

 

[mont974x4]

You didn't answer my question....did I misunderstand your points? Did I misrepresent where you were coming from in the discussion and respond inappropriately?




I don't go to Mass, I see no rigid religious services presented in the Bible that in any way form a foundation to what we see in modern churches. I do get together with brothers and sisters a few times a week for corporate worship, fellowship, study and prayer. But I know how many people are uncomfortable with teh freedom we have in Christ and rush to make new rules and "Traditions" with little or no biblical foundation.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

That's too bad. I'll light a candle for you tomorrow morning.

Thanks!!!!

Reve 2:5 Be remembering then!, whence thou hast fallen and reform! And the first works do! If yet no, I am coming to thee swiftly, and shall be removing/kinhsw<2795> (5692) the Lamp-stand/lucnian <3087> of Thee out of the Place of her, if ever no thou should be reforming.

 

[ScottBot]

You didn't answer my question....did I misunderstand your points? Did I misrepresent where you were coming from in the discussion and respond inappropriately?




I don't go to Mass, I see no rigid religious services presented in the Bible that in any way form a foundation to what we see in modern churches. I do get together with brothers and sisters a few times a week for corporate worship, fellowship, study and prayer. But I know how many people are uncomfortable with teh freedom we have in Christ and rush to make new rules and "Traditions" with little or no biblical foundation.

Cool. If that's what makes you close to the Lord.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by mont974x4
LOL Well, we are Christians, members of the catholic (universal) Church determined to study and show ourselves approved rightly handling the Word and desiring to not fall into the traps of rome and other false teachers/teachings.


Thanks for noticing.

Originally Posted by Catholic Christian
Long Live
Peter among us !

I am a "catholic"
I decided to bring this topic up on the TAW board

http://christianforums.com/t6967742-...l#post44269432
do-the-orthodox-believe-the-rcc-focuses-on-peter-too-much

 

[ScottBot]

I am a "catholic"
I decided to bring this topic up on the TAW board

http://christianforums.com/t6967742-...l#post44269432
do-the-orthodox-believe-the-rcc-focuses-on-peter-too-much

Suuuuper. Let us all know how that works out, mmkay.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Suuuuper. Let us all know how that works out, mmkay.

So far they have nothing but good things to say about the RCC.

quote poster: Personally I believe Roman Catholics clearly show their proper love, faith, and worship in their hearts to Jesus Christ, Lord and saviour. Doctrinal problems yes, but not where the heart is. Just my 2 cents.

quote poster: In the GT debates - it sometimes comes across that way. It's difficult to make a point without over-emphasising and even more difficult to defend a belief without constantly talking about it.

 

[ScottBot]

Hmmm, I am surprised that you are getting responses. Usually the Orthodox aren't all that interested in talking about Catholic stuff.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Hmmm, I am surprised that you are getting responses. Usually the Orthodox aren't all that interested in talking about Catholic stuff.

Well so far, those are the only 2 I got which is ok as I am sure they just want to keep harmony and not "stir up the pot". Peace.

Matthew 21:13 And He is saying unto them, "It has been written, the House of Me a House of prayer shall be being called'; ye yet it are making a den/cave/sphlaion <4693> of robbers.

Zech 14:21 Yes, every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to YHWH of hosts. Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite in the House of YHWH of hosts.

 

[Magisterium]

As a relatively well versed Catholic, I'd say no. The RCC does not focus too much on Peter. However, I will contend that many well-meaning people when trying to defend the faith do!

The Chuirch certainly recognizes Peter's importance as Christ's vicar on earth, however, he's CHRIST's vicar. Christ is the cornerstone. The church affirms this time and again to the faithful but when trying to get over authority issues with others, I think the tendency is to retreat to MT 16:18 and say "SEE, THERE!!". Which is often an excercise in futility. Honestly, in my (limited) experience, I've never seen someone attacking the church's credibility or authority turned on their heels by this verse or line of argument.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

As a relatively well versed Catholic, I'd say no. The RCC does not focus too much on Peter. However, I will contend that many well-meaning people when trying to defend the faith do!

The Church certainly recognizes Peter's importance as Christ's vicar on earth, however, he's CHRIST's vicar. Christ is the cornerstone. The church affirms this time and again to the faithful but when trying to get over authority issues with others, I think the tendency is to retreat to MT 16:18 and say "SEE, THERE!!". Which is often an excercise in futility. Honestly, in my (limited) experience, I've never seen someone attacking the church's credibility or authority turned on their heels by this verse or line of argument.

Thanks for that well thought out post.