Does anyone listen to Ann Coulter anymore?

[Randall McNally]

She hates what they stand for, that's for sure. Funny how she is called hateful yet the very people here who have demeaned her are not called hateful also. Is hatefulness OK when directed towards conservatives?

Hateful is hateful, I suppose, no matter who is doing the hating. The thing is, no one here is getting paid millions to pass off hatred as political commentary.

 

[rahma]

Again, I don't doubt your credibility, Rahma. But, I would really like to see a credible source or link for that quote you keep using. I know you have provided me some blogs (like a Ted Nugent one? A Leftist America one?), but I would really like to see a credible news source, or perhaps something from an Ann Coulter source itself? I just hate to keep debating something that may very well be a rumor, or urban legend floating around the internet.

I posted a lot of message boards, from the right (freepers) and left that linked back to her main site around christmas time. Almost all of the posts say look at this message on her site. People click on it, look, and then comment. However, that message is no longer there.

It is not a rumor or an urban legand. I went to the site myself and looked at it. Lots of people on lots of boards went to the site, looked at it, and then commented.

 

[Blemonds]

Hateful is hateful, I suppose, no matter who is doing the hating. The thing is, no one here is getting paid millions to pass off hatred as political commentary.

Care to be specific as to any hatefulness here?

 

[Jonathan David]

wow.... popular thread.

From what I have seen, the only purpose that Ann Coulter serves is stimulating discussion... other than that..... I got nothing nice to say.

One thing that I will say is that the reference to the "Aunt Jemimah" thing is a little unfair. If you go back to that thread you will see that I fully condemned the use of the reference in regards to Rice.... but that was a one off deal from what I have heard. It was a guy who did something totally inappropriate.... once (at least it only got reported once).... Ann Coulter has made a career out of it...

 

[praying]

#3. I loved how Ann Coulter is an idiot, but yet it's ok for a white, liberal male radio host to get away with calling Condi Rice "an Aunt Jemima" and have that NOT be racist or offensive???? Wow. That one blows me away. Yes, that was indeed in Dane Country. Um, where I live - so shall I find the column for you that an African-American, LIBERAL, woman wrote to the paper following that incident? It regarded that very label he gave to her - there was pure OUTRAGE that he used it at ALL, whether it's "justified" or not. I'm not African-American - so those who are & found it ok (mhatten), or those who are & were outraged (um, another CF person that doesn't post very much. Do you remember who it was, mhatten?) are really the ONLY ones who can give us credible opinions on that one, sir.

Oy, ve.

Oblivious I believe was the other poster.

I just find ann coulter to be rude and abraisive and don't quite understand why she or anyone feels the need to be that way to the extent (extreme to the nth degree) she is.

No I was not offended by the aunt jemima comment because I just did not feel it was made in the tone it was said to be made in though of course I could be wrong.

I will say this in general to those that are slinging the pc thing about. Why are you up in arms about that (the aunt jemima comment) when all along the only thing I see and hear is; the world has gone pc crazy because we are afraid of offending people. The irnoy meter is off the chart.

So when it is you who is not being pc about whatever issue, homsexuality, our Christian nation, Islam whatever it is, it is all good but dare someone do the same about one of your conservative bretheren and it is calls to how come he isn't politically correct. Well you can't have it both ways, Period.


Suzy do note this is not directed at you per se my rant started by answering your question your post.

 

[praying]

other than that..... I got nothing nice to say.

Neither does she

 

[Blemonds]

Oblivious I believe was the other poster.


No I was not offended by the aunt jemima comment because I just did not feel it was made in the tone it was said to be made in though of course I could be wrong.
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That's a classic justification for a racial epithet. I doubt that you would have made that justification had Trent Lott called any black woman an Aunt Jemimah, but I could be wrong.

 

[praying]

That's a classic justification for a racial epithet. I doubt that you would have made that justification had Trent Lott called any black woman an Aunt Jemimah, but I could be wrong.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[Blemonds]

Whatever floats your boat.

BINGO

 

[praying]

BINGO

Ohh goody can I play.

 

[rahma]

Ohh goody can I play.

B-14 , B-14, B-14

 

[praying]

B-14 , B-14, B-14

LOL

 

[Blemonds]

Ohh goody can I play.

I'm astounded that in our day and age, people can make light of blatant racism merely because it comes from a liberal. But like you said, whatever floats your boat. But I would say that this detracts from any credibility you may have in future discussions on racism

 

[SuzQ]

Ok, when we've all returned from ROMPER ROOM, let me know. (Kidding!!!).

And, yes, Mhatten, you & I beat the "Aunt Jemima" thing into the ground a long time ago, that's for sure. You know I respect your opinion, even if I don't agree. You're cool.

Let's all be honest. Really if anyone is to blame, it continues to be, and will ALWAYS be the media. They constantly reward "controversial comments & hateful criticism" with giving airtime to people like Ann Coulter, Al Franken, Michael Moore, Dennis Miller, Bill O'Reilly, and Jon Stewart. There, I've covered somewhat obnoxious people on BOTH sides, as they've ALL said some pretty hate-provoking comments (even if there is an occassion where I like what one of them has to say every now & then. ). Perhaps they can be more "tempered" or balanced with someone less controversial more often?

For example, personally, I find myself these days having more in common with Senator John McCain's views than anyone else. He's calm, reasonable, officially supported President Bush while continuing to compliment John Kerry, and just basically tries to get along & work TOGETHER with the Dems, not against them. (Yet, he's tough, as a former POW, & still lambasted Michael Moore as a "disengenious filmmaker" ). Yep, that's about where I like to be.

I'm conservative, married to a liberal, too - so I pretty much HAVE to be that way. LOL! Yes, I love the guy, even if he & I disagree on politics, same as all of the rest of you liberals. (I used to be one myself).

 

[tulc]

But I would say that this detracts from any credibility you may have in future discussions on racism

Uhmm did she ever have credibility in your eyes? You pretty much dismiss anything we say in advance so we're not probably going to see much change from you, right?
tulc(loves when that high horse is hauled out, jumped on and rocked to death!)

 

[rahma]

Did we all forget that Sly apologized for using that term? Has Ann Coulter ever apologized for anything she has said?? I don't think so.

 

[Randall McNally]

Care to be specific as to any hatefulness here?

From Ann Coulter? Actually, she was comparatively mild on Imus this morning.

Other than that, I won't be baited. If you don't know Coulter's journalistic history by now, nothing I say will have any effect.

 

[praying]

I'm astounded that in our day and age, people can make light of blatant racism merely because it comes from a liberal.

I'm sorry I didn't realize I did that, I did however make light of what you said.

But like you said, whatever floats your boat.

Umm no I said whatever floats your boat.

But I would say that this detracts from any credibility you may have in future discussions on racism

Okay if you say so.

 

[praying]

Ok, when we've all returned from ROMPER ROOM, let me know. (Kidding!!!).

And, yes, Mhatten, you & I beat the "Aunt Jemima" thing into the ground a long time ago, that's for sure. You know I respect your opinion, even if I don't agree. You're cool.

Thanks and same goes. and yes we did beat that horse to death poor thing.

Let's all be honest. Really if anyone is to blame, it continues to be, and will ALWAYS be the media. They constantly reward "controversial comments & hateful criticism" with giving airtime to people like Ann Coulter, Al Franken, Michael Moore, Dennis Miller, Bill O'Reilly, and Jon Stewart. There, I've covered somewhat obnoxious people on BOTH sides, as they've ALL said some pretty hate-provoking comments (even if there is an occassion where I like what one of them has to say every now & then. ). Perhaps they can be more "tempered" or balanced with someone less controversial more often?

For example, personally, I find myself these days having more in common with Senator John McCain's views than anyone else. He's calm, reasonable, officially supported President Bush while continuing to compliment John Kerry, and just basically tries to get along & work TOGETHER with the Dems, not against them. (Yet, he's tough, as a former POW, & still lambasted Michael Moore as a "disengenious filmmaker" ). Yep, that's about where I like to be.

I like John McCain also, he never allows himself to be baited and go off on some ugly rant in public.

 

[PACKY]

Then why did you post a follow-up to it? It looked suspiciously to some of us like you were defending him. And, no - what I meant in my post (and didn't specify, sorry - my bad), was that only a person of the race in question can tell us if it's "ok" to use a racist term, ala the "Aunt Jemima". (Even if many others were outraged). Mhatten is African-American & thought it was ok. I disagreed, but respected her opinion because it's applicable to her. I already said in an earlier post I thought it was despicable, so I indeed DID share my own personal opinion on the matter. My father is Puerto Rican (I lived there as a child), and would not want someone calling me ANYTHING that alludes to my race, gender, or nationality when discussing my career choices. See? It is racist, period, no matter how you paint it.

Hope that clears THAT up now. Sheesh.

No it does not clear THAT up...
I posted a follow up not only because i can but becuse I saw how skewed his statement had become in the hands of iggnorance, let me kindly remind you that things ARE NOT always as they seem.
I still do not understand what you are saying..let me get this right.. if a person uses a racial slur. as long as the person or person of that group being slurred against "approves" then it has your blessing and is "ok"?
Even though every other person of that race may be outraged and not approve?,, for instance it was Condi Rice who had the comment directed or stated about her so please tell me how you consider mhatten to have any authority to dictate wether or not the stament could be approved or disapproved ( no disrespect intended "M" ) simply because mhatten shares one of he same ethnic backgrounds as Condi Rice?
racism is racism no matter who may claim that they "approve" 1) its against the law, 2) its just plain old.. WRONG 3) those that allow it to take place and do nothing to stop it are no better than those commiting the act.
This is simply my opinion, I like you are entitled to your own as well, I do thank you for the good debate and the respect for all those involved.