Unless babies land on God's lap at birth, they are not comming into paradise. They are born into sin.
I mentioned what you have stated. Adults go to hell for specific reasons....Babies dont...for specific reasons.Lol, you add words into my mouth and then complain that someone is doing the same to you. I don't believe in a place called hell, ok?
No I do not, I was saying that scripture says He knew us before we were in the womb and if God knows us then I am sure He cares, Since He is a loving and caring God.If you say all babies are believers then do you support infant baptism?
You never asked me for my opinion. You judged without knowledge and proceeded to make statements based on your false judgement.
I criticized no one,,, if you can show me where i did, without cutting out part of my sentences, show me. And asking a question is not criticizing....This is what I prefer that you do....ask questions, that edify....and then proceed to show your "superior knowledge."
I would like for you to just ask me questions, without judging me and speaking on what you believe my answer to be beforehand.....Is that too much to ask? Do I have to be guilty of what you believe before answering on the matter?
Do explain broadly, I dont believe there are babies in Heaven or Hell....I find the idea preposterous. And if you have a truth that has exceptions, it most likely isnt truth......If you have a plan of salvation that give exceptions....maybe you should rethink your plan.
You are too sensitive and emotional....both quality not attributed to one who is given to handle and divide the words of truth. I see no criticism here. You will continue to see it as long as you continue to look for it. Sometimes people ask questions to gain clarity.....not to argue, not to criticize......just to understand a thought process.
I do not like to assume what others think....is this ok?
You are talking with a man who believes hell is a state of mind and that one can save people out of hell. So don't waste your time.I mentioned what you have stated. Adults go to hell for specific reasons....Babies dont...for specific reasons.
I didnt mention any thoughts on the existence of hell.....I thought we were to assume it does exist while answering the question....but we can go into its existence if you wish to switch things up.
You did not address the statement that you cant grasp the idea of sending a baby to hell, but you are ok with the idea of adults going there......is this not true?
I asked if you could see God feeling different.......e.g. loving everyone the same regardless of age, sex, nationality etc..... Is this possible? Or Is God like man, basing love and punishment on age?
Then babies are not believers?No I do not, I was saying that scripture says He knew us before we were in the womb and if God knows us then I am sure He cares, Since He is a loving and caring God.
I can't say with certainty or scripture so I do not know? I was being a smart aleck earlier "jokingly"and meant that you could look at it that way since He did know us before.. Afterall He is the Potter and has made each one of usThen babies are not believers?
2 Timothy 3:15
and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures,
which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.
Psalm 51:6
Yet you desired faithfulness even in the womb; you taught me wisdom in that secret place.
cool story bro,
have a good day
I questions questionable statements, for edification of the readers....i see nothing wrong with you calling it criticism, however. I dont question you much because you are sensitive and quick to see offense and quick on the report button. I said many times....If you are able to reason together, you can ask questions and I would answer.....Let your "yes," be "yes," and your "no" be "no."
Be upfront about your belief here.
If not then you are simply hiding what you actually believe.
Again, logic dictates that if you criticize others those who believe babies are saved, then you are not in favor of that position.
There is nothing in The Word of God about babies going to hell.
He is only following what you have been doing...... His choice of words mean nothing as they are all just groups of letters. It is best to not imply or assume when most are willing to reason.That's pretty far out there.
In any event, I am wishing him nothing but good things to him in Christ Jesus.
I questions questionable statements, for edification of the readers....i see nothing wrong with you calling it criticism, however. I dont question you much because you are sensitive and quick to see offense and quick on the report button. I said many times....If you are able to reason together, you can ask questions and I would answer.....
The KJV is correct because God teaches that babies do in fact have the capacity … something that refutes the false teaching which claims otherwise and so happens that results in rejecting other Scriptures as 2 Peter 3:16 states.Wow. The lengths you are going here is pretty crazy.
Okay. The KJV says "child."
"And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus." (2 Timothy 3:15).
And the KJV would be correct because no baby can read.
2 Peter 3:16--God says those who distort Paul's letters will also distort other Scriptures.It says in Psalms 51:6:
"Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom."
This is David talking in the present tense now about his innermost being. The Modern Translations got it wrong. The common Hebrew word for "womb" is not used here.
The KJV is correct because God teaches that babies do in fact have the capacity … something that refutes the false teaching which claims otherwise and so happens that results in rejecting other Scriptures as 2 Peter 3:16 states.
2 Peter 3:16--God says those who distort Paul's letters will also distort other Scriptures.
Not surprised then on the distortion of this as well.
But the lake of fire and second death are Scriptural.
You are right.... I do not believe Babies burn in hell. I apologize for appearing to be offended and defensive, and the appearance of attacking people on one side of the argument. This was not my intention. thank you for the conversation.I don't see why you don't want to reveal your belief on the discussion of the topic of this thread. In my opinion, its as if you have something to hide. For when you criticize others for believing that babies are saved, and you are confronted with how that is wrong, you then go into defensive mode and say that you did not say babies go to hell, etc. Look. Pick a side or don't pick one. You can say that you don't know. But if you do say you don't know then please do not attack a particular position as if you are for one side over the other.
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