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Let's re-examine this part of the conversation:
Unfortunately you believe that every person and every source (Muslim and non-Muslim) that disagrees with you is a liar:
You will never be able to learn anything with that attitude.
Will you accept the challenge?
That being said, since you believe what you are sharing in this thread and others defines who is a real Muslim and who isn't, and since you believe in a strict and literal interpretation of the Qur'an, hadiths, and Sunnahs; do you believe that Fundamental Independent Baptists who follow a strict literal interpretation of the Bible are the only true Christians?
When you are reading the Qur'an, haddiths, and Sunnah, you are reading them without putting things into a historical perspective. This is where you are in error. This is the same thing Wahhabists, extremists, and anti-Islamic propagandists do. More than 99% of Muslims today know to do this, just as they always have historically.
My advice for Christians who have a heart for Muslims and want to share their faith with them or have the desire to have discussions with Muslims about Islam is to first get to know some Muslims in your community and learn from them. Be a good listener and let your curiosity drive the direction of your conversation with them.
There is no substitute to talking to real Muslims when it comes to learning about Islam and what they believe. If you are not aware of any Muslims in your community go online and find the nearest mosque or Islamic center. Go to a mosque in your area and ask the imam there to explain things like abrogation, taqiyya, and jihad. I can assure you the answers you get concerning these topics will be nothing like the videos and articles shared in this thread describe them.
Go ask an Imam
I've gone on those sites many time only to see Imams lie about core doctrines just to appease the questioner.
Muhammad is dead, so that leaves Muslims as the authority on Islam for today.
Once again, Muhammad is dead. Since this is the case, Muslims are your best source for learning about what Islam teaches and what Muslims actually believe.Are you for real? No muslim has authority over Muhammad. Just like no Christian has authority of Jesus Christ. Muhammad is the prophet of Islam and according to Islamic doctrine there are no prophets after him. You are insane if you believe muslims have authority.
Unfortunately you believe that every person and every source (Muslim and non-Muslim) that disagrees with you is a liar:
Muhammad disagrees with your taqiyya produced articles so give it up.
go ask am Imam and get a load of taqiyya.
The only thing you represent here is taqiyya and how it deludes people into accepting the false narrative muslims want you to believe.
You simply have no understanding of Islam and have swallowed the taqiyya instead of a true understanding.
And that is taqiyya... Its never about what muslims tell us, its what Muhammad tells them.
You will never be able to learn anything with that attitude.
I have learned from Islamic sources. I even gave you an example of an online Islamic school that I have recently taken courses from. I even challenged you to take a course from the online Islamic School and give a review of it.If you study Islam from non-Islamic sources you have learned nothing about Islam. If you want to learn any religion you have to learn it from their books and not from what others say.
Here is my certificate:Since you feel the sites I have visited since that time to learn about Islam are progressive, I challenge you to enroll in Dr. Philip's Islamic University Online and take the course titled "Contemporary Issues." After Taking the course, display your certificate, and then give an honest review.
Will you accept the challenge?
I agree.Ibn Kathir is one of the all time best tafsir scholars and the top authority on Islamic tribulation and the portents of the hours.
Salafis follow a strict literal interpretation of the Qur'an. They are much like the Fundamental Independent Baptists in Christianity.Salafi Islam is Mohammedan
That being said, since you believe what you are sharing in this thread and others defines who is a real Muslim and who isn't, and since you believe in a strict and literal interpretation of the Qur'an, hadiths, and Sunnahs; do you believe that Fundamental Independent Baptists who follow a strict literal interpretation of the Bible are the only true Christians?
Muhammad was a warrior just the same as King David and Joshua in the Bible. They all committed atrocities and instructed their soldiers to commit them against their enemies. If we look at Muhammad and his actions through a historical lens, while they appear bad by our modern perspective, they were normal for the point in history that he lived. In other words, he was no worse than anyone else who was in a position of leadership in his day whether they be Jew, Christian, Muslim, or Pagan.Muhammad is the father of Islamic terrorism.
When you are reading the Qur'an, haddiths, and Sunnah, you are reading them without putting things into a historical perspective. This is where you are in error. This is the same thing Wahhabists, extremists, and anti-Islamic propagandists do. More than 99% of Muslims today know to do this, just as they always have historically.
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