Dinosaurs and Humans Coexisting! (My Thoughts on the Creation Museum)

[Subduction Zone]

Embedded Age creation.

Yes, the old "God lied" argument.

 

[Hank77]

So you're saying that you simply don't interpret Genesis 1?

I interpret that I don't understand the first day reference to day and night, light and darkness. The change from tohu bohu, darkness and chaos. I don't know how long those periods were and exactly what happened during that time. But I see that they must have been different from day/night created on day 4. These are the day/night that we live, that God created for us.

 

[AV1611VET]

there is no logical reason to assume that God was telling humans how he made the entire universe.

Judging by the way educatees are constantly wanting to know how He did it ... He didn't.

Even when you tell an educated person how He did it, they will deny it.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, the old "God lied" argument.

One of the main reasons you think God lied is because we are not suffering from inbreeding depression.

And that's a poor reason to believe God lied.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Judging by the way educatees are constantly wanting to know how He did it ... He didn't.

Even when you tell an educated person how He did it, they will deny it.

AV, the point is that the Bible does not tell us how God did it. Instead you abuse the Bible and use it to tell God how he was supposed to have done it,

 

[Subduction Zone]

One of the main reasons you think God lied is because we are not suffering from inbreeding depression.

And that's a poor reason to believe God lied.

Wrong, you are simply being dishonest again.

 

[AV1611VET]

AV, the point is that the Bible does not tell us how God did it.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[AV1611VET]

Wrong,

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

Yes, we know that you think that you are Genghis Khan, but as must as you wish that to be true you are wrong there too.

Don't you get tired of being wrong almost all of the time Genghis?

 

[AV1611VET]

Don't you get tired of being wrong almost all of the time Genghis?

Of course not.

And when I'm wrong, people don't die.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Of course not.

And when I'm wrong, people don't die.

That is only a testament to your insignificance. That also means that on those rare occasions when you are right you never saved anyone.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is only a testament to your insignificance. That also means that on those rare occasions when you are right you never saved anyone.

Read what I said a little more slowly, please.

You'll get it ... eventually.

 

[Tree of Life]

Embedded Age creation.

I may not be familiar with this. Could you elaborate?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Read what I said a little more slowly, please.

You'll get it ... eventually.

I understood it. It was simply a dishonest attack on your betters. Why do you keep doing that? The scientists that you attack have saved countless times more lives than their errors have cost. You would apparently have countless people die. That is far more immoral than you accuse others of being.

 

[Tree of Life]

the bible is a mythological book and it attempts to express through mans limitations what God inspired men to write down, Gods wisdom being supra-rational and thus making it appear to be irrational due to our lack of rationality in understanding what God expresses to the degree that we ought to receive of him.

So you simply think that the human author was mistaken? Or that the human author's intent was to write mythology?

I don't have to take the days as literal days or as thousands of years because the bible chiefly describes processes of the soul and spirit and thus is quite willing to alter historical or scientific accuracy in order to persevere certain kinds of spiritual wisdom. many christians and jews have a long standing tradition of contemplation and spiritual wisdom in regards to the bible and it's narratives.

So when Genesis 1 says "and there was evening and there was morning, the first day", what does it mean? How should we interpret those words?

 

[Tree of Life]

I interpret that I don't understand the first day reference to day and night, light and darkness. The change from tohu bohu, darkness and chaos. I don't know how long those periods were and exactly what happened during that time. But I see that they must have been different from day/night created on day 4. These are the day/night that we live, that God created for us.

I'm reading about what you don't think it means but I'm not seeing what you do think it means. Do you just not interpret it?

 

[Hank77]

I'm reading about what you don't think it means but I'm not seeing what you do think it means. Do you just not interpret it?

I don't know how else to say that I don't know what or how long the six day period is. And I don't know how God did it other than He spoke and creation happened.

 

[Tree of Life]

I don't know how else to say that I don't know what or how long the six day period is. And I don't know how God did it other than He spoke and creation happened.

Ok. Well it just looks to me like you're refusing to take a position on the meaning of the text.

 

[AV1611VET]

I may not be familiar with this. Could you elaborate?

God simply created the universe with age embedded into it.

In other words ... let's say the earth is 4.5 billion years old.

That means the earth was created 4.5 billion years old, but it has only been in existence 6000.

 

[AV1611VET]

It was simply a dishonest attack on your betters.

When I'm wrong, people don't die.

If you disagree with that, show me one person whom I killed.