Different Public Schools for Different Faiths ?

[sprknjc]

Though the First Amendment says the government cannot establish A religion as was in England, here's an idea to reduce cultural friction between people of various faiths and those of anti faith in the public schools, which can happen in larger school districts with dozens of schools. Have separate schools for Christian, possibly for various denominations within, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, not believers of traditional marriage lifestyle, Atheists, etc. and not restricted to skin color, ethnicity, race, or nationality. Parents choose for their children which is cheaper than private school and less time constraining for parents than home schooling. Some interaction between different belief schools in the school districts with sports games and academic competitions. Also so if the Christian kids want to pray or study the Bible in their own Christian publc school, they could do so without offending others, likewise if Muslim, Jewish, or choose to participate in an alternative lifestyle.

Larger school districts have the real estate of many buildings to do this. I do see added school bus transportation costs with this, but reducing cultural friction and lawsuits is priceless. Maybe this idea is being done today in sections of other countries besides the United States, but I don't know. Some districts do have special schools for bad behavior students, gifted academically, or the disabled, so why not of various beliefs?

Thoughts, pro or con?

 

[JustOneWay]

How about we stick to teaching the children the basics and leave their religious education and affiliation to their private places of worship?

 

[A2SG]

Though the First Amendment says the government cannot establish A religion as was in England, here's an idea to reduce cultural friction between people of various faiths and those of anti faith in the public schools, which can happen in larger school districts with dozens of schools. Have separate schools for Christian, possibly for various denominations within, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, not believers of traditional marriage lifestyle, Atheists, etc. and not restricted to skin color, ethnicity, race, or nationality. Parents choose for their children which is cheaper than private school and less time constraining for parents than home schooling. Some interaction between different belief schools in the school districts with sports games and academic competitions. Also so if the Christian kids want to pray or study the Bible in their own Christian publc school, they could do so without offending others, likewise if Muslim, Jewish, or choose to participate in an alternative lifestyle.

Larger school districts have the real estate of many buildings to do this. I do see added school bus transportation costs with this, but reducing cultural friction and lawsuits is priceless. Maybe this idea is being done today in sections of other countries besides the United States, but I don't know. Some districts do have special schools for bad behavior students, gifted academically, or the disabled, so why not of various beliefs?

Thoughts, pro or con?

That's already the case. Anyone can set up a private school for pretty much any reason they want to, whether it be religion or ethnicity, whatever. There are christian schools all over the place, jewish ones, muslim ones, whatever. Private schools can exist so long as they can be funded, however they choose to fund them.

But they can't be funded by the government. That's the thing. Public schools, run by the city or municipality, cannot promote or establish any religion or anything like that.

So create your school for whatever reason you want to. But find a way to fund it yourself, the government shouldn't have to pay for it.

-- A2SG, that's your job...

 

[JustOneWay]

But they can't be funded by the government. That's the thing. Public schools, run by the city or municipality, cannot promote or establish any religion or anything like that.

Don't look now....

In Oklahoma, a new test of religion in public schools

A new lawsuit is challenging what would be the nation’s first publicly-funded religious charter school.

www.pbs.org

 

[A2SG]

Don't look now....

In Oklahoma, a new test of religion in public schools

A new lawsuit is challenging what would be the nation’s first publicly-funded religious charter school.

www.pbs.org

Geez, don't get me started on charter schools! Man, who ever came up with that idea is a master grifter, funneling public funds to a private school.

-- A2SG, there oughtta be a law....

 

[sprknjc]

How about we stick to teaching the children the basics and leave their religious education and affiliation to their private places of worship?

Agree with teaching the children the basics including the 3Rs, but a secular humanism culture is in the public schools, which the majority of children attend, is now not a good Moral influence, and not good for our country as the children become adults influencing policy and how people act.

 

[sprknjc]

Don't look now....

In Oklahoma, a new test of religion in public schools

A new lawsuit is challenging what would be the nation’s first publicly-funded religious charter school.

www.pbs.org

Thanks for sharing !

 

[Bones49]

Thoughts, pro or con?

No it's a terrible idea. Yes, it might make life in school easier now. but what happens when all these kids grow up and have to live in a society which is not segregated? The end result will be a significant increase of religious and cultural problems within the adult world. Why,

It is well understood in the disabled community that those 'non disabled' people who grow up with regular contact with people who have a disability are far better at getting along with them, because they understand that these people are normal, because it's always been normal that they are around. Yes, it might be more difficult for the schools, but in the long run, it is of huge benefit to society to teach our children, that people of different race, culture, religion, ability etc are normal. Segregation sends the opposite, that these people are different, and should be treated as such, with suspicion etc.

 

[Larniavc]

Though the First Amendment says the government cannot establish A religion as was in England, here's an idea to reduce cultural friction between people of various faiths and those of anti faith in the public schools, which can happen in larger school districts with dozens of schools. Have separate schools for Christian, possibly for various denominations within, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, not believers of traditional marriage lifestyle, Atheists, etc. and not restricted to skin color, ethnicity, race, or nationality. Parents choose for their children which is cheaper than private school and less time constraining for parents than home schooling. Some interaction between different belief schools in the school districts with sports games and academic competitions. Also so if the Christian kids want to pray or study the Bible in their own Christian publc school, they could do so without offending others, likewise if Muslim, Jewish, or choose to participate in an alternative lifestyle.

Larger school districts have the real estate of many buildings to do this. I do see added school bus transportation costs with this, but reducing cultural friction and lawsuits is priceless. Maybe this idea is being done today in sections of other countries besides the United States, but I don't know. Some districts do have special schools for bad behavior students, gifted academically, or the disabled, so why not of various beliefs?

Thoughts, pro or con?

This is not a good idea. It creates a them and us situation. If the aim is societal harmony you need to teach people to integrate with different people. This is exactly what happens at university. People mix with people they would not normally do so with.

If however the aim to to enforce a religious position then it would be affective. That is what happens in isolationist societies like the Amish.

So no upside but for the folks in charge of the religious society they get to retain their status.

 

[Tuur]

Though the First Amendment says the government cannot establish A religion as was in England, here's an idea to reduce cultural friction between people of various faiths and those of anti faith in the public schools, which can happen in larger school districts with dozens of schools. Have separate schools for Christian, possibly for various denominations within, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, not believers of traditional marriage lifestyle, Atheists, etc. and not restricted to skin color, ethnicity, race, or nationality. Parents choose for their children which is cheaper than private school and less time constraining for parents than home schooling. Some interaction between different belief schools in the school districts with sports games and academic competitions. Also so if the Christian kids want to pray or study the Bible in their own Christian publc school, they could do so without offending others, likewise if Muslim, Jewish, or choose to participate in an alternative lifestyle.

Larger school districts have the real estate of many buildings to do this. I do see added school bus transportation costs with this, but reducing cultural friction and lawsuits is priceless. Maybe this idea is being done today in sections of other countries besides the United States, but I don't know. Some districts do have special schools for bad behavior students, gifted academically, or the disabled, so why not of various beliefs?

Thoughts, pro or con?

Children will one day live and work around those of different faiths. Why segregate them in their school years?

 

[sprknjc]

Children will one day live and work around those of different faiths. Why segregate them in their school years?

Positive influences in their formative and impressionable young years. Secular humanism is not. At least more than one governor has fought indoctrination of children in the schools, DeSantas in FL, Youngkin in VA, there are others. Once they are adults, they can choose good and/or evil. There was the 1980's movie Dead Poets Society taking place in a school in the late 1950's. In a scene in that movie, the teacher played by Robin Williams, encouraged the high school students in his class to think for themselves which not a totally bad thing, but the schoolmaster there talking with him at a meal in the cafeteria, really questioned and not supporting of by saying Free Thinkers at age 17? Its a great movie, my top 10 list of all time and watched several times, how schools were before so called political correctness took over. Lot of uplifting Christian drama and humor, though a bit of mischief, while including importance of family and authority which we have so much lost as a society overall today, brother iron sharpens iron, sad event near the end, but standing up for what is right in the last scene.

 

[sprknjc]

Don't look now....

In Oklahoma, a new test of religion in public schools

A new lawsuit is challenging what would be the nation’s first publicly-funded religious charter school.

www.pbs.org

It seems like a good idea the governor of Oklahoma open to having public schools of various faiths - "Stitt said that he would love to see Catholic, Jewish and Muslim charter schools as well." It is new uncharted territory there and believe worth giving it a test in at least one state for a few or several years and see what happens, which will or disprove what each of us think.

 

[sprknjc]

That's already the case. Anyone can set up a private school for pretty much any reason they want to, whether it be religion or ethnicity, whatever. There are christian schools all over the place, jewish ones, muslim ones, whatever. Private schools can exist so long as they can be funded, however they choose to fund them.

But they can't be funded by the government. That's the thing. Public schools, run by the city or municipality, cannot promote or establish any religion or anything like that.

So create your school for whatever reason you want to. But find a way to fund it yourself, the government shouldn't have to pay for it.

-- A2SG, that's your job...

Many families, unless upper class or wealthy, cannot afford private school tuition of thousands of dollars, with the other basic necessities of life, mortgage/rent, utilities, food, clothing, etc., plus paying taxes which typically up to around 50% goes for public schools. Parents working two jobs to make ends meet not have time for home schooling either. Oklahoma in the article referenced here earlier in this thread also with the governor's idea of vouchers for private school, at least for the less well off.

Government funds things for alternative marriage lifestyles, supporting that belief. Doesn't make sense when cannot do the same for other faith beliefs.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Though the First Amendment says the government cannot establish A religion as was in England, here's an idea to reduce cultural friction between people of various faiths and those of anti faith in the public schools, which can happen in larger school districts with dozens of schools. Have separate schools for Christian, possibly for various denominations within, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, not believers of traditional marriage lifestyle, Atheists, etc. and not restricted to skin color, ethnicity, race, or nationality. Parents choose for their children which is cheaper than private school and less time constraining for parents than home schooling. Some interaction between different belief schools in the school districts with sports games and academic competitions. Also so if the Christian kids want to pray or study the Bible in their own Christian publc school, they could do so without offending others, likewise if Muslim, Jewish, or choose to participate in an alternative lifestyle.

Larger school districts have the real estate of many buildings to do this. I do see added school bus transportation costs with this, but reducing cultural friction and lawsuits is priceless. Maybe this idea is being done today in sections of other countries besides the United States, but I don't know. Some districts do have special schools for bad behavior students, gifted academically, or the disabled, so why not of various beliefs?

Thoughts, pro or con?

Defeats the purpose of the Christian mandate given to us by Jesus Christ of Nazareth. To harvest for His Kingdom, which is not of this earth.
We harvest among those who are lost.
Blessings

 

[Larniavc]

Secular humanism is not.

Evidence please.

 

[Larniavc]

There was the 1980's movie Dead Poets Society

I don't think you should draw conclusions about social dynamics from your repetitive watching of a movies.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Though the First Amendment says the government cannot establish A religion as was in England, here's an idea to reduce cultural friction between people of various faiths and those of anti faith in the public schools, which can happen in larger school districts with dozens of schools. Have separate schools for Christian, possibly for various denominations within, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, not believers of traditional marriage lifestyle, Atheists, etc. and not restricted to skin color, ethnicity, race, or nationality. Parents choose for their children which is cheaper than private school and less time constraining for parents than home schooling. Some interaction between different belief schools in the school districts with sports games and academic competitions. Also so if the Christian kids want to pray or study the Bible in their own Christian publc school, they could do so without offending others, likewise if Muslim, Jewish, or choose to participate in an alternative lifestyle.

Larger school districts have the real estate of many buildings to do this. I do see added school bus transportation costs with this, but reducing cultural friction and lawsuits is priceless. Maybe this idea is being done today in sections of other countries besides the United States, but I don't know. Some districts do have special schools for bad behavior students, gifted academically, or the disabled, so why not of various beliefs?

Thoughts, pro or con?

There's no need to ghetto-ize education. It should be enough to have freedom of speech and freedom for Critical Thought in today's schools. If either Maga Hat wearing conservatives or Rainbow Blowing liberals can't stomach free speech or critical thought, then they need to get out of the kitchen of education ...

 

[sprknjc]

There's no need to ghetto-ize education. It should be enough to have freedom of speech and freedom for Critical Thought in today's schools. If either Maga Hat wearing conservatives or Rainbow Blowing liberals can't stomach free speech or critical thought, then they need to get out of the kitchen of education ...

Hearing about it is one thing, but being forced to do something against your held practiced faith is another. Can't wear a shirt with a Bible verse to some schools, but being forced to participate in Pride Day. Our nation getting to point where call Good evil, and evil as good.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Hearing about it is one thing, but being forced to do something against your held practiced faith is another. Can't wear a shirt with a Bible verse to some schools, but being forced to participate in Pride Day. Our nation getting to point where call Good evil, and evil as good.

Who's being forced to participate in Pride Day or to pray in school? Where is that happening precisely?

 

[JustOneWay]

Hearing about it is one thing, but being forced to do something against your held practiced faith is another. Can't wear a shirt with a Bible verse to some schools, but being forced to participate in Pride Day. Our nation getting to point where call Good evil, and evil as good.

Is this the reason you consider having public schools be segregated by religion, just so students are not forced to attend Pride events or barred from wearing their religion on their shirts?