Is Trump also charging that the Trump administration is spying on him? If one was then his is, as well.President Donald Trump is mounting an increasingly aggressive attack on investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, charging that the Obama Administration actively spied on his campaign.
I thought that it was pretty well known by now that Obama did some spying that probably was not legal?
M-Bob
Then Trump is also illegally spying on himself now. There has been nothing to show that anything was illegal in how the FBI investigated the Russian investigation.I thought that it was pretty well known by now that Obama did some spying that probably was not legal?
M-Bob
Actually, it is "pretty well known" by any objective person that Obama or any president can not have someone spied on.
The Barbarian said in post #140:
The big deal is to make sure that everyone understands that the "deep state" is another term for "separation of powers."
The Barbarian said in post #140:
The founders intentionally made the state deep to prevent any one person from taking power.
The Barbarian quoted Uscinski in post #140:
“People who have lost an election, money or influence look for something to explain that loss.”
Jamsie said in post #143:
. . . Obama or any president can not have someone spied on.
Jamsie said in post #143:
… as Bonhoeffer said "If you board the wrong train there is no use in running down the corridor in the other direction"...
Note that it isn't, for the separation of powers refers to the three Constitutional branches of government.
The d.s. is a fourth, unconstitutional branch which hides its activities from the other branches in the name of "secrecy" and "national security".
Then Trump is also illegally spying on himself now. There has been nothing to show that anything was illegal in how the FBI investigated the Russian investigation.
Note that he can, secretly, if he gets his CIA director to ask a so-called "friendly" foreign intel agency to do the spying for him.
The wrong train is the d.s. and its unconstitutional powers, which the U.S. needs to stop and depart from.
“Spygate,” the false allegation that the FBI had a spy in the Trump campaign, explained - VoxWhy Did Obama Administration Spy On Trump Campaign? Was It Politics, Or Fear Of Russian Meddling?
This is significant, since the farther back in time the actual origin of the spying on Trump, the less likely it is that it had anything to do with Russian involvement in the 2016 elections, but everything to do with stopping the surprising surge of Trump during the GOP primaries and beyond.
The Barbarian said in post #148:
The founders designed the state be deep to prevent any one person from running it as he pleased.
The Barbarian said in post #148:
. . . Congress and the Courts have repeatedly stopped Trump from taking our liberties.
The Barbarian said in post #148:
The deep state is the Constitution.
The Barbarian said in post #148:
Trump isn't the AntiChrist . . .
The Barbarian said in post #153:
. . . the deep state is exposing criminals in the Trump administration.
Mountainmanbob said in post #149:
Why Did Obama Administration Spy On Trump Campaign? Was It Politics, Or Fear Of Russian Meddling?
This is significant, since the farther back in time the actual origin of the spying on Trump, the less likely it is that it had anything to do with Russian involvement in the 2016 elections, but everything to do with stopping the surprising surge of Trump during the GOP primaries and beyond.
Jamsie said in post #150:
. . . many of the adults in the trump administration had the integrity to apologize to GCHQ.
Jamsie said in post #150:
Excuse those of us who don't run "down the corridor in the other direction" when reasoned consideration shows the "d.s." to be an elaborate but hollow distraction to an inept administration.
Jamsie said in post #150:
If on the other hand one would suggest that the "d.s." has more to do with money in politics, corporatism, and influence of wealth perhaps there would be agreement to an extent...
Perhaps because of the false claims/Lies concerning British involvement in "spygate". Of course understanding that the trump cult finds truth inconsequential the facts involved are meaningless: A timeline of Donald Trump’s false wiretapping chargeWhy did they apologize?
Note that the d.s. invented the "Russian collusion" distraction to undermine candidate Trump, then President-elect Trump, and now President Trump. For the d.s. is anti-democracy. It thinks that it knows better than the People, who can easily decide for themselves in 2020 if they want to keep Trump or not.
The d.s. does not care about wealth per se. All it cares about is Power. Power over the People, whom it sees as stupid and not worthy of choosing their own leaders. Instead, it is the d.s. who gets to pick and choose their leaders.
God forbid.
Note that the Founders knew nothing of the deep state,
The man commonly called the Antichrist will be the fulfillment of the individual "man of sin"
(This is not to say that it should, but that it should give Trump a break just as it is giving Clinton, Obama and his people a break.)
The Trump surname is an anglicized version of the German name Drumpf ...
• In Jewish gematria and English Sumerian gematria the value of the letters in Don Drumpf is 666. (Don being both his abbreviated first name and meaning "powerful ruler.")
• Donald John Drumpf in American ASCII computer code is 666.
• Donald Trump called himself the Brexit candidate and Don Brexit in American gematria is 666.
• Brexit Trump yields 966 in Jewish gematria, 996 in English gematria, and 166 in simple gematria. "I Am guiding you" also yields 966 in Jewish gematria.
• Donald Trump said that he should be called "Mr. Brexit" and since his family is German that would be Herr Brexit, which yields 669 in Jewish gematria.
• Donald John Trump's real name in German is Donald Johann Drumpf and each name has six letters = 666.
• There are multiple reports of Trump flashing the Illuminati triple-six hand sign = 666.
• The Trump coat of arms contains three number six symbols = 666.
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