Did Jesus give us an Eleventh Commandment?

[guevaraj]

Let us seek the wisdom of the Lord for how to live!
For the Lord gives wisdom. Out of his mouth comes knowledge and understanding. He lays up sound wisdom for the upright. He is a shield to those who walk in integrity, that he may guard the paths of justice, and preserve the way of his saints. Then you will understand righteousness and justice, equity and every good path. Proverbs 2

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday March 10, 2023 at 10:43 am EST! The passage suggests three groups: two whose position is clear in the judgment and a third group whose position depends on the judgment.

Aaron must take from the community of Israel two male goats for a sin offering and a ram for a burnt offering. (Leviticus 16:5 NLT)​

The first goat represents martyrs who experienced death because of their relationship with God. "There is no greater love than to lay down one’s life for one’s friends." (John 15:13 NLT) The second goat represents those whom God will destroy, not only for their own sins but also for the sins of the forgiven, the forgiven having resisted their influence. Two clear opposites before moving on to the general population whose position depends on the judgment, a third group represented by the ram. The following descriptions of these three animals on the day of judgment are taken from: jewfaq.org/sacrifices_and_offerings. We humans are all subjects to God's will on the day of Judgment.

Olah: Burnt Offering (a ram)​

Perhaps the best-known class of offerings is the burnt offering. It was the oldest and commonest sacrifice, and represented submission to G-d's will. The Hebrew word for burnt offering is olah, from the root Ayin-Lamed-Hei, meaning ascension. It is the same root as the word aliyah, which is used to describe moving to Israel or ascending to the podium to say a blessing over the Torah. An olah is completely burnt on the outer altar; no part of it is eaten by anyone. Because the offering represents complete submission to G-d's will, the entire offering is given to G-d (i.e., it cannot be used after it is burnt). It expresses a desire to commune with G-d, and expiates sins incidentally in the process (because how can you commune with G-d if you are tainted with sins?). An olah could be made from cattle, sheep, goats, or even birds, depending on the offerer's means. (jewfaq.org/sacrifices_and_offerings)​

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Chatat: Sin Offering (two male goats)​

A sin offering is an offering to atone for and purge a sin. It is an expression of sorrow for the error and a desire to be reconciled with G-d. The Hebrew term for this type of offering is chatat, from the word chayt, meaning "missing the mark." A chatat could only be offered for unintentional sins committed through carelessness, not for intentional, malicious sins. The size of the offering varied according to the nature of the sin and the financial means of the sinner. Some chatatot are individual and some are communal. Communal offerings represent the interdependence of the community, and the fact that we are all responsible for each others' sins. A few special chatatot could not be eaten, but for the most part, for the average person's personal sin, the chatat was eaten by the kohanim. (jewfaq.org/sacrifices_and_offerings)​

Other offerings are: Peace Offering, Guilt Offering, Food and Drink Offerings, and The Red Heifer. God seeing three groups with the above three animals on the day of Judgment at the end of the year is verified in the next passage where He prefers we be two, where He sees three.

“I know all the things you do, that you are neither hot nor cold. I wish that you were one or the other! (Revelation 3:15 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, grace and peace to you

For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don’t use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another. For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

United in seeking God's truths!

 

[guevaraj]

For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don’t use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another. For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Brother, happy Sabbath! Let's take a closer look at this passage to give Paul's words their proper meaning. The only summary statement that the translators misunderstood is what Paul meant by "you are not under obligation to the law (of Judaism)." The statement "of Moses" I crossed out was added by the translators and is not found in the original. Paul is referring to how Judaism viewed obedience to the law. Judaism obeyed the commandment not to misuse God's name by not using God's name at all. This obedience to the law on the part of Judaism led to death because it did not remove the sin that God's commandment was meant to remove. Judaism missed the purpose of God's commandment to take away sin. Paul avoids this human sabotage of God's commandment by focusing on sin instead of keeping the law as Judaism obeyed it. By focusing on the purpose of God's law, Paul wants to avoid human sabotage of God's law in Judaism's "human attempt" to obey the law that did not eliminate sin, which led to death for those who follow Judaism.

For you have been called to live in freedom (from sin), my brothers and sisters. But don’t use your freedom (from sin) to satisfy your sinful nature (to sin). Instead, use your freedom (from sin) to serve one another in love (Eleven Commandments). For the whole law can be summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor (God is also a close neighbor) as yourself.” But if you are always biting and devouring one another, watch out! Beware of destroying (sin running rampant) one another. So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives (who gave us the Bible). Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves (to sin). The sinful nature wants to do evil (sin), which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants (Eleven Commandments). And the Spirit gives us desires (Eleven Commandments) that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires (lawlessness). These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free (from sin) to carry out your good intentions. But when you are directed by the Spirit (Eleven Commandments), you are not under obligation to the law (of Judaism) of Moses. (Galatians 5:13-18 NLT)​

Jesus' sacrifice is for those who make the effort to obey God's Eleven Commandments and not for those who disobey God's Eleven Commandments, deliberately continuing to sin and teaching others to continue sinning by saying that Jesus' sacrifice is sufficient when such a human tradition is busted in the following passage.

Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins. (Hebrews 10:26 NLT)​

Under the many forgivenesses of Jesus as our High Priest, you can grow to obey the Eleven Commandments through practice like a child who learns to walk by getting up again and again until he no longer falls. Or as someone who wants to learn to play the piano, you learn slowly through practice. Practice thanks to Jesus' many forgivenesses for past sins in comparison to the law's unforgiving condemnation. The law does not allow slow growth through practice, but Jesus gave us what the law did not; growth in obedience to the Eleven Commandments through the practice which Paul calls slavery when he says we are "slaves to righteous living" by obeying God instead of "slaves to sin", "which leads to death".

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living. (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath! Let's take a closer look at this passage to give Paul's words their proper meaning. The only summary statement that the translators misunderstood is what Paul meant by "you are not under obligation to the law (of Judaism)." The statement "of Moses" I crossed out was added by the translators and is not found in the original. Paul is referring to how Judaism viewed obedience to the law. Judaism obeyed the commandment not to misuse God's name by not using God's name at all. This obedience to the law on the part of Judaism led to death because it did not remove the sin that God's commandment was meant to remove. Judaism missed the purpose of God's commandment to take away sin. Paul avoids this human sabotage of God's commandment by focusing on sin instead of keeping the law as Judaism obeyed it. By focusing on the purpose of God's law, Paul wants to avoid human sabotage of God's law in Judaism's "human attempt" to obey the law that did not eliminate sin, which led to death for those who follow Judaism.

For you have been called to live in freedom (from sin), my brothers and sisters. But don’t use your freedom (from sin) to satisfy your sinful nature (to sin). Instead, use your freedom (from sin) to serve one another in love (Eleven Commandments). For the whole law can be summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor (God is also a close neighbor) as yourself.” But if you are always biting and devouring one another, watch out! Beware of destroying (sin running rampant) one another. So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives (who gave us the Bible). Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves (to sin). The sinful nature wants to do evil (sin), which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants (Eleven Commandments). And the Spirit gives us desires (Eleven Commandments) that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires (lawlessness). These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free (from sin) to carry out your good intentions. But when you are directed by the Spirit (Eleven Commandments), you are not under obligation to the law (of Judaism) of Moses. (Galatians 5:13-18 NLT)​

Jesus' sacrifice is for those who make the effort to obey God's Eleven Commandments and not for those who disobey God's Eleven Commandments, deliberately continuing to sin and teaching others to continue sinning by saying that Jesus' sacrifice is sufficient when such a human tradition is busted in the following passage.

Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins. (Hebrews 10:26 NLT)​

Under the many forgivenesses of Jesus as our High Priest, you can grow to obey the Eleven Commandments through practice like a child who learns to walk by getting up again and again until he no longer falls. Or as someone who wants to learn to play the piano, you learn slowly through practice. Practice thanks to Jesus' many forgivenesses for past sins in comparison to the law's unforgiving condemnation. The law does not allow slow growth through practice, but Jesus gave us what the law did not; growth in obedience to the Eleven Commandments through the practice which Paul calls slavery when he says we are "slaves to righteous living" by obeying God instead of "slaves to sin", "which leads to death".

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living. (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, Grace and peace to you

If I remember our earlier conversations correctly, you believe that we are to still keep the Law of Moses, but we are to keep it in principle, not to the letter. So I believe we agree there!

But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives: love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things!

Galatians 5 NLT

And that’s the way it was with us before Christ came. We were like children; we were slaves to the basic spiritual principles of this world.

Galatians 4 NLT

United in keeping God's ways!

 

[guevaraj]

we are to keep it in principle, not to the letter.

Brother, I believe your thinking that we can personally do better than God's guaranteed "written laws" in the Bible through prophets comes from a misunderstanding of the following passage. Critical to the proper understanding of this passage is that God is Spirit: Jesus being God is Spirit. What is compared is Jesus' example of obedience to the Eleven Commandments as more complete than the written Eleven Commandments. To understand this comparison I will use the analogy of replacing a broken window. No doubt it is more complete to follow a professional installer's example than the instructions in a brief manual. The reason the old written law ends in death for Judaism is that they sabotaged God's law to not remove sin that Paul protects against by focusing on sin rather than obeying the law as Judaism did. Judaism obeyed the commandment of not misusing God's name by not pronouncing His name at all. This obedience skipped the law's purpose to remove sin from our character. They would have learned to use God's name without sinning had they done what God asked instead of replacing what God asked with their own "human effort" to obey that did not remove the sin that doing what God asked would have removed.

We are confident of all this because of our great trust in God through Christ. It is not that we think we are qualified to do anything on our own. Our qualification comes from God. He has enabled us to be ministers of his new covenant. This is a covenant not of written laws (Eleven Commandments), but of the Spirit (Jesus' example). The old written covenant ends in death (sabotaged to not remove sin); but under the new covenant, the Spirit (Jesus' example) gives life. The old way (written laws), with laws etched in stone (Ten Commandments), led to death (Sabotaged to not remove sin), though it began with such glory (Ten Commandments) that the people of Israel could not bear to look at Moses’ face. For his face shone with the glory of God, even though the brightness was already fading away (sabotaged to not remove sin). Shouldn’t we expect far greater glory (Eleven Commandments) under the new way (Jesus' example), now that the Holy Spirit (reminding us of Jesus' example) is giving life? If the old way (written laws), which brings condemnation, was glorious (Ten Commandments), how much more glorious (Eleven Commandments) is the new way (Jesus' example), which makes us right with God (removes sin)! In fact, that first glory (Ten Commandments) was not glorious at all compared with the overwhelming glory (Eleven Commandments) of the new way (Jesus' example). So if the old way (written laws), which has been replaced, was glorious (Ten Commandments), how much more glorious (Eleven Commandments) is the new (Jesus' example), which remains forever! (2 Corinthians 3:4-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, I believe your thinking that we can personally do better than God's guaranteed "written laws" in the Bible through prophets comes from a misunderstanding of the following passage. Critical to the proper understanding of this passage is that God is Spirit: Jesus being God is Spirit. What is compared is Jesus' example of obedience to the Eleven Commandments as more complete than the written Eleven Commandments. To understand this comparison I will use the analogy of replacing a broken window. No doubt it is more complete to follow a professional installer's example than the instructions in a brief manual. The reason the old written law ends in death for Judaism is that they sabotaged God's law to not remove sin that Paul protects against by focusing on sin rather than obeying the law as Judaism did. Judaism obeyed the commandment of not misusing God's name by not pronouncing His name at all. This obedience skipped the law's purpose to remove sin from our character. They would have learned to use God's name without sinning had they done what God asked instead of replacing what God asked with their own "human effort" to obey that did not remove the sin that doing what God asked would have removed.

We are confident of all this because of our great trust in God through Christ. It is not that we think we are qualified to do anything on our own. Our qualification comes from God. He has enabled us to be ministers of his new covenant. This is a covenant not of written laws (Eleven Commandments), but of the Spirit (Jesus' example). The old written covenant ends in death (sabotaged to not remove sin); but under the new covenant, the Spirit (Jesus' example) gives life. The old way (written laws), with laws etched in stone (Ten Commandments), led to death (Sabotaged to not remove sin), though it began with such glory (Ten Commandments) that the people of Israel could not bear to look at Moses’ face. For his face shone with the glory of God, even though the brightness was already fading away (sabotaged to not remove sin). Shouldn’t we expect far greater glory (Eleven Commandments) under the new way (Jesus' example), now that the Holy Spirit (reminding us of Jesus' example) is giving life? If the old way (written laws), which brings condemnation, was glorious (Ten Commandments), how much more glorious (Eleven Commandments) is the new way (Jesus' example), which makes us right with God (removes sin)! In fact, that first glory (Ten Commandments) was not glorious at all compared with the overwhelming glory (Eleven Commandments) of the new way (Jesus' example). So if the old way (written laws), which has been replaced, was glorious (Ten Commandments), how much more glorious (Eleven Commandments) is the new (Jesus' example), which remains forever! (2 Corinthians 3:4-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ!

Maybe keeping the law in principle was the wrong way to put it in this discussion. I believe we agreed on something, maybe it was that keeping the law free from human tradition may look very different than what is written.

The subject we were talking about at the time, I believe, was tithing. The writing talks about animals and giving them to Levites. Free from human tradition that becomes setting aside some money on the first day of the week.

United in pursuing God's peaceable wisdom!

 

[guevaraj]

keeping the law free from human tradition may look very different than what is written.

Brother, keeping the law free from human tradition does not look different than what is written. Our only trustworthy guide is what is written in the guarantied word of God from the beginning through prophets. The changes made since the Father placed Jesus as our High Priest in the true temple in heaven were known from the beginning that Jesus would replace the shadows that represented His future coming as the messiah, the savior of the world promised to Adam and Eve. There is no personal interpretation of any of God's words guaranteed by the prophets.

For we were not making up clever stories when we told you about the powerful coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. We saw his majestic splendor with our own eyes when he received honor and glory from God the Father. The voice from the majestic glory of God said to him, “This is my dearly loved Son, who brings me great joy.” We ourselves heard that voice from heaven when we were with him on the holy mountain. Because of that experience, we have even greater confidence in the message proclaimed by the prophets. You must pay close attention to what they wrote, for their words are like a lamp shining in a dark place—until the Day dawns, and Christ the Morning Star shines in your hearts. Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet’s own understanding, or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God. (2 Peter 1:16-21 NLT)​

We are not qualified to alter anything God says because only God knows the way to use laws to separate sin from our character and any additional laws by us get in the way of God's efforts to free us from sin through His laws. We are "blind guides" and only God is not a blind guide to separate sin from our character through His use of laws. History repeats itself when we do not learn from the mistakes in Judaism. We are not qualified to write our own replacement laws, like Sunday in place of the Sabbath as done by our "fallen" mother church. Followed by most protestants to this day, despite God's warning to not share in her sins.

“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people’s faces. You won’t go in yourselves, and you don’t let others enter either. “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! “Blind guides! What sorrow awaits you! For you say that it means nothing to swear ‘by God’s Temple,’ but that it is binding to swear ‘by the gold in the Temple.’ Blind fools! Which is more important—the gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? And you say that to swear ‘by the altar’ is not binding, but to swear ‘by the gifts on the altar’ is binding. How blind! For which is more important—the gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? When you swear ‘by the altar,’ you are swearing by it and by everything on it. And when you swear ‘by the Temple,’ you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. And when you swear ‘by heaven,’ you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. (Matthew 23:13-22 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, keeping the law free from human tradition does not look different than what is written. Our only trustworthy guide is what is written in the guarantied word of God from the beginning through prophets. The changes made since the Father placed Jesus as our High Priest in the true temple in heaven were known from the beginning that Jesus would replace the shadows that represented His future coming as the messiah, the savior of the world promised to Adam and Eve. There is no personal interpretation of any of God's words guaranteed by the prophets.

For we were not making up clever stories when we told you about the powerful coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. We saw his majestic splendor with our own eyes when he received honor and glory from God the Father. The voice from the majestic glory of God said to him, “This is my dearly loved Son, who brings me great joy.” We ourselves heard that voice from heaven when we were with him on the holy mountain. Because of that experience, we have even greater confidence in the message proclaimed by the prophets. You must pay close attention to what they wrote, for their words are like a lamp shining in a dark place—until the Day dawns, and Christ the Morning Star shines in your hearts. Above all, you must realize that no prophecy in Scripture ever came from the prophet’s own understanding, or from human initiative. No, those prophets were moved by the Holy Spirit, and they spoke from God. (2 Peter 1:16-21 NLT)​

We are not qualified to alter anything God says because only God knows the way to use laws to separate sin from our character and any additional laws by us get in the way of God's efforts to free us from sin through His laws. We are "blind guides" and only God is not a blind guide to separate sin from our character through His use of laws. History repeats itself when we do not learn from the mistakes in Judaism. We are not qualified to write our own replacement laws, like Sunday in place of the Sabbath as done by our "fallen" mother church. Followed by most protestants to this day, despite God's warning to not share in her sins.

“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people’s faces. You won’t go in yourselves, and you don’t let others enter either. “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! “Blind guides! What sorrow awaits you! For you say that it means nothing to swear ‘by God’s Temple,’ but that it is binding to swear ‘by the gold in the Temple.’ Blind fools! Which is more important—the gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? And you say that to swear ‘by the altar’ is not binding, but to swear ‘by the gifts on the altar’ is binding. How blind! For which is more important—the gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? When you swear ‘by the altar,’ you are swearing by it and by everything on it. And when you swear ‘by the Temple,’ you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. And when you swear ‘by heaven,’ you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. (Matthew 23:13-22 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, grace and peace to you

I believe we talked about this before, but that's cool

Has God showed us how to keep the tithing commandments today, free from human tradition?

United in seeking God's truths!

 

[guevaraj]

Has God showed us how to keep the tithing commandments today, free from human tradition?

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday March 17, 2023 at 11:48 am EDT! Yes! In the following passage, Paul tells us how the church should tithe after the Father put Jesus as our High Priest, "on portion of the money you have earned" every Saturday and not Sunday in the following passage. Jerusalem, where the disciples are, is the hub of the whole church. Every translation has mistakenly assumed that God's "expression": "the first of the Sabbaths" refers to Sunday when referring to Saturday, another way of referring to the seventh day of the creation week we call Saturday.

Now regarding your question about the money being collected for God’s people in Jerusalem (added by the translators and not in the original, the collected money is for the whole church and not just for those in Jerusalem). You should follow the same procedure I gave to the churches in Galatia. Every Saturday, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned. Don’t wait until I get there and then try to collect it all at once. When I come, I will write letters of recommendation for the messengers you choose to deliver your bounty to Jerusalem. And if it seems appropriate for me to go along, they can travel with me. (1 Corinthians 16:1-4 NLT fixed)​

This expression by God for Saturday is necessary because the Sabbath falls between two days of the week in the Promised Land as shown in the passage below. The Sabbath in the Promised Land falls and takes halves between Friday and Saturday, so you only get half of a Friday and half of a Saturday in the Promised Land, with a Sabbath taking halves between those two days, giving us the following order: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sabbath, and Saturday, the Sabbath being an eighth division in the seven-day week.

The "evening" ending the Sabbath in the Promised Land is part of Saturday, as shown in the above passage and the one below where God uses an "expression" that was not previously understood: "the first of the Sabbaths". This "expression" refers to the first Sabbath of creation week or another way of saying the seventh day of the week that we call Saturday. I will use Saturday for the seventh day as different from the Sabbath, which is separate from the seventh day in the Promised Land, to correct the translation of this "expression" of God. Below, "as it dawns beyond Saturday" refers to the end of the second half of Saturday, the night half from evening to morning, where Jesus rose on a Saturday night after the Sabbath in the Promised Land and before the morning begins Sunday, as the days of creation are corrected from human tradition since Joshua in Hebrews 3 and 4. This means, Jesus rose on a Saturday night, after the Sabbath ended in the "evening", as that same "evening" began what God called "night" until Sunday began in the "morning". We speak from the point of view of what begins in the "morning", when the Bible speaks from the point of view of what ends in the "morning".

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath, which starts this Friday March 17, 2023 at 11:48 am EDT! Yes! In the following passage, Paul tells us how the church should tithe after the Father put Jesus as our High Priest, "on portion of the money you have earned" every Saturday and not Sunday in the following passage. Jerusalem, where the disciples are, is the hub of the whole church. Every translation has mistakenly assumed that God's "expression": "the first of the Sabbaths" refers to Sunday when referring to Saturday, another way of referring to the seventh day of the creation week we call Saturday.

Now regarding your question about the money being collected for God’s people in Jerusalem (added by the translators and not in the original, the collected money is for the whole church and not just for those in Jerusalem). You should follow the same procedure I gave to the churches in Galatia. Every Saturday, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned. Don’t wait until I get there and then try to collect it all at once. When I come, I will write letters of recommendation for the messengers you choose to deliver your bounty to Jerusalem. And if it seems appropriate for me to go along, they can travel with me. (1 Corinthians 16:1-4 NLT fixed)​

This expression by God for Saturday is necessary because the Sabbath falls between two days of the week in the Promised Land as shown in the passage below. The Sabbath in the Promised Land falls and takes halves between Friday and Saturday, so you only get half of a Friday and half of a Saturday in the Promised Land, with a Sabbath taking halves between those two days, giving us the following order: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Sabbath, and Saturday, the Sabbath being an eighth division in the seven-day week.

The "evening" ending the Sabbath in the Promised Land is part of Saturday, as shown in the above passage and the one below where God uses an "expression" that was not previously understood: "the first of the Sabbaths". This "expression" refers to the first Sabbath of creation week or another way of saying the seventh day of the week that we call Saturday. I will use Saturday for the seventh day as different from the Sabbath, which is separate from the seventh day in the Promised Land, to correct the translation of this "expression" of God. Below, "as it dawns beyond Saturday" refers to the end of the second half of Saturday, the night half from evening to morning, where Jesus rose on a Saturday night after the Sabbath in the Promised Land and before the morning begins Sunday, as the days of creation are corrected from human tradition since Joshua in Hebrews 3 and 4. This means, Jesus rose on a Saturday night, after the Sabbath ended in the "evening", as that same "evening" began what God called "night" until Sunday began in the "morning". We speak from the point of view of what begins in the "morning", when the Bible speaks from the point of view of what ends in the "morning".

long after the Sabbath (evening), as it dawns beyond Saturday (morning), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary, to see the tomb. (Mathew 28:1, my own translation)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

Brother, may the Lord bless you!

Right! Keeping the law of Moses free from human tradition looks very different from what is written.
Numbers 18
“See, to the children of Levi I have given all the tithe in Israel for an inheritance."

United in giving to God what belongs to God!

 

[guevaraj]

Right! Keeping the law of Moses free from human tradition looks very different from what is written.
Numbers 18 “See, to the children of Levi I have given all the tithe in Israel for an inheritance."

Brother, happy Sabbath, which started this Friday March 24, 2023 at 11:52 am EDT! The changes after the Father put Jesus as our High Priest were "expected" from the beginning. Importantly, we have an "it is written" in the guaranteed word of God by prophets transitioning from before Jesus as our High Priest to after Jesus as our High Priest. How is the human tradition of Sunday by our "fallen" mother church in place of the Sabbath in the Fourth Commandment defensible when God has demanded that we not take part in our "fallen" mother church's sins? Our "fallen" mother church believes her human tradition of Sunday in place of the Sabbath is evidence of our "fallen" mother church's authority to replace God's guaranteed written word by prophets from the beginning, because most protestants take part in her sin of replacing the Sabbath with Sunday when God has demanded that we not take part in her sins.

"God, not Man, seperateth that which the Pope dissolves; therefore what can you make of the Pope but that he is God? The Emperor Constantine, at the council of Nice, called all Prelates Gods; therefore the Pope, being above all prelates, is above all gods. Wherefore, the Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ."--Decretal. De Translat, Episcop. Cap. Quanto. (Chandler Curtis, Illustrations of Popery 1838, page 210)​

Jesus rose on a Saturday night, before Sunday, so that the word of God shows our "fallen" mother church without excuse for their rebellion.

He gave a mighty shout: “Babylon is fallen—that great city is fallen! She has become a home for demons. She is a hideout for every foul spirit, a hideout for every foul vulture and every foul and dreadful animal. For all the nations have fallen because of the wine of her passionate immorality. The kings of the world have committed adultery with her. Because of her desires for extravagant luxury, the merchants of the world have grown rich.” Then I heard another voice calling from heaven, “Come away from her, my people. Do not take part in her sins, or you will be punished with her. For her sins are piled as high as heaven, and God remembers her evil deeds. (Revelation 18:2-4 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[expos4ever]

“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’ (Matthew 7:21-23 NLT)

Hi, the significant majority of translations have "evildoers" or "those who practice lawlessness". It seems rather convenient to your position, don't you think. that you choose a translation that implies that it is those who break the Law of Moses in particular that will be sent away.

As I am sure you know, one can be lawless without particular reference to the Law of Moses.

 

[expos4ever]

Jesus rose on a Saturday night, before Sunday, so that the word of God shows our "fallen" mother church without excuse for their rebellion.

On what grounds do you claim this?

 

[Leaf473]

Brother, happy Sabbath, which started this Friday March 24, 2023 at 11:52 am EDT! The changes after the Father put Jesus as our High Priest were "expected" from the beginning.

Jorge, my man, what's up?

Right, changes! I'll agree with that

Psalm 133
A Song of Ascents. By David.
See how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to live together in unity!

 

[expos4ever]

For example, the Pope speaks "against the Most High", in his attempt to "try to change the set times and the laws" in the Fourth Commandment of God's Sabbath by replacing it with Sunday.

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“He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time. (Daniel 7:23-25 NIV)​

This replacement of the Sabbath began long before there was a pope, with the efforts by the bishops of Rome to replace the Sabbath with the Sunday church hour. This Sunday replacement of the Sabbath lasted an hour and the rest of the day was like any other day, as my former teacher shares his discoveries after studying the history of the church in Rome.

No one, least of all me, is claiming that a non-divine authority has any right to change law. Clearly, the Beast here refers to some earthly power, not to God himself. But I and others, quite obviously, are asserting that it is God himself who quote change the law".

 

[guevaraj]

Right, changes! I'll agree with that Psalm 133 A Song of Ascents. By David.
See how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to live together in unity!

No one, least of all me, is claiming that a non-divine authority has any right to change law. Clearly, the Beast here refers to some earthly power, not to God himself. But I and others, quite obviously, are asserting that it is God himself who quote change the law".

Brothers, happy Sabbath! These changes are not the popular belief of removing the previous glory of the Ten Commandments, because it is a continuation of God's plan from the beginning where temporary shadows were replaced with their eternal reality after the Father put Jesus as our High Priest. Paul is misunderstood when he says "you are not under obligation to the law (of Judaism)." The statement "of Moses" I crossed out was added by the translators and is not found in the original. Paul is referring to how Judaism viewed obedience to the law. For example, Judaism obeyed the commandment not to misuse God's name by not using God's name at all. This obedience to the law on the part of Judaism led to death because it did not remove the sin that God's commandment was meant to remove. Judaism missed the purpose of God's commandment to take away sin. Paul avoids this human sabotage of God's commandment by focusing on sin instead of keeping the law as Judaism obeyed it. By focusing on the purpose of God's law, Paul wants to avoid human sabotage of God's law in Judaism's "human attempt" to obey the law that did not eliminate sin, which led to death for those who follow Judaism.

For you have been called to live in freedom (from sin), my brothers and sisters. But don’t use your freedom (from sin) to satisfy your sinful nature (to sin). Instead, use your freedom (from sin) to serve one another in love (Eleven Commandments). For the whole law can be summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor (God is also a close neighbor) as yourself.” But if you are always biting and devouring one another, watch out! Beware of destroying (sin running rampant) one another. So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives (who gave us the Bible). Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves (to sin). The sinful nature wants to do evil (sin), which is just the opposite of what the Spirit wants (Eleven Commandments). And the Spirit gives us desires (Eleven Commandments) that are the opposite of what the sinful nature desires (lawlessness). These two forces are constantly fighting each other, so you are not free (from sin) to carry out your good intentions. But when you are directed by the Spirit (Eleven Commandments), you are not under obligation to the law (of Judaism) of Moses. (Galatians 5:13-18 NLT)​

Jesus' sacrifice is for those who obey God's Eleven Commandments and not for those who disobey God's Eleven Commandments: deliberately continuing to sin and teaching others to continue sinning by saying that Jesus' sacrifice is sufficient to cover their continuing to sin by disobeying the commandments when such a human tradition is busted in the following passage.

Dear friends, if we deliberately continue sinning after we have received knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice that will cover these sins. (Hebrews 10:26 NLT)​

Under the many forgivenesses of Jesus as our High Priest, you can grow to obey the Eleven Commandments through practice like a child who learns to walk by getting up again and again until he no longer falls. Or as someone who wants to learn to play the piano, you learn slowly through practice. Practice thanks to Jesus' many forgivenesses for past sins in comparison to the law's unforgiving condemnation. The law does not allow slow growth through practice, but Jesus gave us what the law did not; growth in obedience to the Eleven Commandments through the practice which Paul calls slavery when he says we are "slaves to righteous living" by obeying God instead of "slaves to sin", "which leads to death".

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living. (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Leaf473]

Brothers, happy Sabbath! These changes are not the popular belief of removing the previous glory of the Ten Commandments, because it is a continuation of God's plan from the beginning where temporary shadows were replaced with their eternal reality after the Father put Jesus as our High Priest.

Yo, Dude!

They were changes, and that's the key

Deuteronomy 32
He found him in a desert land, in the waste howling wilderness. He surrounded him. He cared for him. He kept him as the apple of his eye.

United in learning ever more about the scriptures!

 

[expos4ever]

Paul is misunderstood when he says "you are not under obligation to the law (of Judaism)." The statement "of Moses" I crossed out was added by the translators and is not found in the original. Paul is referring to how Judaism viewed obedience to the law.

You are not accurately representing what is being said In Galatians 5:13-18. Here is the text rendered in the NASB

13 For you were called to freedom, brothers and sisters; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but serve one another through love. 14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. 17 For the desire of the flesh is against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, in order to keep you from doing whatever you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.

This version at least is completely at odds with your take - it is clear, again from this version, that in verse 18, Paul is referring to, yes, the Law of Moses.

Now then, let's talk about your claim about the addition of "of Moses". I did a little research and found that only 2 out of about 30 translations have the phrase "of Moses" in the first place! So here, you are misleading the reader - you are setting them up to believe that translators erroneously translated v 18 as referring to the "Law of Moses". Having thus misled the reader, you then, apparently on your own, have inserted something into the text: you have us believe the text is referring to "the Law of Judaism". With these illicit moves under your belt, you then draw the conclusion that "Paul is referring to how Judaism viewed obedience to the law". This allows you to evade the actual meaning of the text - that Paul is referring to the Law of Moses as is clear from overall context - and insert your own perspective.

 

[guevaraj]

You are not accurately representing what is being said In Galatians 5:13-18... This version at least is completely at odds with your take - it is clear, again from this version, that in verse 18, Paul is referring to, yes, the Law of Moses.

Brother, let Paul explain rather than impose your own point of view on his use of the word law. He did not qualify the use of the word law in the original as you have. Paul is not freeing us from obeying God's law: If you pay attention to his message in the following passage. What Paul contrasts is obeying the man-made laws in the human-made traditions of Judaism, which leads to death because humans are "blind guides" to know how to use laws to remove sin, with obeying God who does know how to use laws to remove sin, which leads to "righteous living".

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living. (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

Jesus said the same thing by calling humans "blind guides" to use laws when only God is not a "blind guide" to use laws to eliminate sin. We need to obey God and not man-made traditions like Sunday instead of the Sabbath in the Fourth Commandment in order for God to separate sin from our character that our own human laws, like Sunday instead of the Sabbath, fail to accomplish, because we are "blind guides" as Jesus tells us in the following passage.

“What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you shut the door of the Kingdom of Heaven in people’s faces. You won’t go in yourselves, and you don’t let others enter either. “What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Hypocrites! For you cross land and sea to make one convert, and then you turn that person into twice the child of hell you yourselves are! “Blind guides! What sorrow awaits you! For you say that it means nothing to swear ‘by God’s Temple,’ but that it is binding to swear ‘by the gold in the Temple.’ Blind fools! Which is more important—the gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? And you say that to swear ‘by the altar’ is not binding, but to swear ‘by the gifts on the altar’ is binding. How blind! For which is more important—the gift on the altar or the altar that makes the gift sacred? When you swear ‘by the altar,’ you are swearing by it and by everything on it. And when you swear ‘by the Temple,’ you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. And when you swear ‘by heaven,’ you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. (Matthew 23:13-22 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[expos4ever]

Brother, let Paul explain rather than impose your own point of view on his use of the word law. He did not qualify the use of the word law in the original as you have.

I am drawing the only plausible interpretation about Paul's use of the word "law" in this text - He is referring to the Law of Moses, not human tradition in Galatians 5:18:

But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law

You are claiming that He does not mean the Law of Moses here. Well, let's see what context discloses.

Here are verses 3 and 4:

And I testify again to every man who has himself circumcised, that he is obligated to keep the whole Law. 4 You have been severed from Christ, you who [a]are seeking to be justified by the Law; you have fallen from grace.

Is Paul not referring to the Law of Moses here?

And here is verse 14:

For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Again, is this not obviously the Law of Moses?

You are asking us to believe that Paul suddenly, and without any indication whatsoever, shifts from using "the Law" to refer to the Law of Moses, as I have shown he is doing throughout the first part of chapter 5, to using the phrase "the Law" to refer to how "Judaism viewed obedience to the law"? That is a very big ask.

Paul is not freeing us from obeying God's law:

Let Paul speak:

But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the [h]Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

If you pay attention to his message in the following passage. What Paul contrasts is obeying the man-made laws in the human-made traditions of Judaism, which leads to death because humans are "blind guides" to know how to use laws to remove sin, with obeying God who does know how to use laws to remove sin, which leads to "righteous living".

Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living. (Romans 6:15-18 NLT)​

Where is there anything in this text of Romans 6 (above) that refers to the "man-made traditions of Judaism"?

Jesus said the same thing by calling humans "blind guides" to use laws when only God is not a "blind guide" to use laws to eliminate sin. We need to obey God and not man-made traditions like Sunday instead of the Sabbath in the Fourth Commandment in order for God to separate sin from our character that our own human laws, like Sunday instead of the Sabbath, fail to accomplish, because we are "blind guides" as Jesus tells us in the following passage.

How is this relevant? No one, least of all me, is suggesting that the Pharisees did not impose human traditions and that Jesus criticized them for it. But so what? How does this justify your taking this passage below, where context strongly shows Paul is talking about the Law of Moses...

But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law

....and arbitrarily rewriting it to say this:

But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the traditions of men