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It does no good to have a get out of jail free card we can't choose to actually use!
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It does no good to have a get out of jail free card we can't choose to actually use!No, that’s not correct. In fact, choice wasn’t even addressed in my post. Atonement of sin was.
IT DOES NOT ANSWER THE SPECIFIC QUESTION I ASKED.How can you claim the people of all generations hearing God's word do not count at all?? Jesus even spelled it out that He had other sheep to come in the fold. We also see things 'written for the generation to come' etc etc.
Ps 102:18 - This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD.
In Daniel some prophesies were sealed up for generations, so they were written for folks in the end time. Etc.
That’s what you equate the atonement too? Wow!It does no good to have a get out of jail free card we can't choose to actually use!
Well it answers the elephant in the room question of the thread. Did man really have choice or was it pre arranged and set? The way you describe most men on earth as being sort of too bad or fallen in nature to be ABLE to choose to get saved, that is the impression we are left with.IT DOES NOT ANSWER THE SPECIFIC QUESTION I ASKED.
Okay. So you don’t think I’m wrong, but that you are just confused. Maybe you should not post against me, then.It does no good to have a get out of jail free card we can't choose to actually use!
Still not answering the question.Well it answers the elephant in the room question of the thread. Did man really have choice or was it pre arranged and set? The way you describe most men on earth as being sort of too bad or fallen in nature to be ABLE to choose to get saved, that is the impression we are left with.
That’s what you equate the atonement too? Wow!
No, I think your position is confused and unclear. Like pulling teeth here.Okay. So you don’t think I’m wrong, but that you are just confused. Maybe you should not post against me, then.
Nope.Jesus asked some folks 'how can ye escape the damnation of hell?' He had already told us the way, simply believe on Him. The folks He was talking to had chosen not to. In your scenario, they never had the choice, right?
Whatever the question was it seems lost in the mists of time. The more important and topical questions loom large though.Okay. So you don’t think I’m wrong, but that you are just confused. Maybe you should not post against me, then.
Maybe if you’d address what I post and actually answer questions, we’d get somewhere.No, I think your position is confused and unclear. Like pulling teeth here.
OK, so does the 'nope' mean I am correct, and that you say they never had the choice? Just confirming to be clear.Nope.
Funny, to get my clear case, no barrage of irrelevant trick questions are needed. But I think I have all I needed to know now, if we are clear that you claim most men have and never had and never will have any free choice to get saved. I am close to announcing victory here.Maybe if you’d address what I post and actually answer questions, we’d get somewhere.
OK, so does the 'nope' mean I am correct, and that you say they never had the choice? Just confirming to be clear.
In your scenario, they never had the choice, right?
O brother, here we go again! OK, so do all men have the free choice to reject or accept salvation yes or no?No, that is not correct in my scenario.
They aren’t trick questions. But you’ll never know that because you are unwilling to answer directly.Funny, to get my clear case, no barrage of irrelevant rick questions are needed. But I think I have all I needed to know now, if we are clear that you claim most men have and never had and never will have any free choice to get saved. I am close to announcing victory here.
How many times do I need to answer this?O brother, here we go again! OK, so do all men have the free choice to reject or accept salvation yes or no?
How many times do I need to answer this?
Yes, they do.
If God is doing it, it is intervening.*sigh*
It doesn’t go against free will. I guess this addresses my post above.
Yes. They are not predestined to hell.No predestination then, OK. People go to hell because of their free will choice.
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