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Nothing is excluded in His mighty plan in the Son of His love.

NOTHING! ! !

I agree absolutely. Nothing in me disagrees with that statement, so to speak.
God is the creator of love, and everything He does is through love!

1 Corinthians 16:14 Do everything in love.

Psalm 30:5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning.


This is extremely important. God’s anger only lasts for a single fleeting moment! When God is correcting our sins, that will only last a temporary amount of time. Afterwards, we will be safe with God for all of life. While on Earth, all of humanity may be suffering, eventually, this pain will end and everyone will be happy!
 
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1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all his enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.

All in all! The wages of sin are death! Everyone is a sinner therefore everyone dies. But, Christ loves us and will completely remove death. There will be no more suffering for anyone! Everyone will be with Christ, every person on the Earht will be alive through salvation!
 
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1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all his enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.
All in all! The wages of sin are death! Everyone is a sinner therefore everyone dies. But, Christ loves us and will completely remove death. There will be no more suffering for anyone! Everyone will be with Christ, every person on the Earht will be alive through salvation!
This is a great error. twisting scripture making it say what it does NOT say. Here is the vs. "in context."
1 Corinthians 15:21-24
(21) For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
(22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
(23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
(24) Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
This passage clearly shows that vs. 21 does NOT say "All will be made alive in Christ." as you have revised it.
All mankind is "in Adam" because all mankind are literal, physical descendants of Adam. All mankind is not made in Adam by death.
All mankind is NOT "in Christ," that requires a conscious decision by each person, while they are alive. Mankind is NOT made "in Christ" by death.
Vs. 23 makes it absolutely clear that vs. 22 does NOT say "All will be made alive in Christ" as you have twisted the vs.
Vs. 23 "Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." First Christ, then NOT all mankind but, only those who belong to Christ at His coming. They must already belong to Christ, when He comes.
 
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This is extre[?]
I agree absolutely. Nothing in me disagrees with that statement, so to speak.
God is the creator of love, and everything He does is through love!
1 Corinthians 16:14 Do everything in love.
Psalm 30:5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning.
This is extremely important. God’s anger only lasts for a single fleeting moment! When God is correcting our sins, that will only last a temporary amount of time. Afterwards, we will be safe with God for all of life. While on Earth, all of humanity may be suffering, eventually, this pain will end and everyone will be happy
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And yet another twisted out-of-context UR proof text.
Jewish Publication Society[JPS]

Psalms 30:3-5
(3) (30:4) O LORD, Thou broughtest up my soul from the nether-world; [sheol] Thou didst keep me alive, that I should not go down to the pit.[bor]
(4) (30:5) Sing praise unto the LORD, O ye His godly ones, and give thanks to His holy name.
(5) (30:6) For His anger is but for a moment, His favour is for a life-time; weeping may tarry for the night, but joy cometh in the morning.
This vs, says nothing about "all of humanity" it applies only to "His godly ones,"[KJV "you saints"] vs. 4.
 
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1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all his enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.

All in all! The wages of sin are death! Everyone is a sinner therefore everyone dies. But, Christ loves us and will completely remove death. There will be no more suffering for anyone! Everyone will be with Christ, every person on the Earth will be alive through salvation!

Our God is the Author of salvation, it is His essence, linked with Light & Love & Spirit. The malista of His great love, know as forerunners of salvation, He lives as the Saviour of all mankind. He is NOT the Saviour of some of mankind, He saves ALL.

"We all must die & are like water spilled on the ground that cannot be gathered up again, but the Lord does not take away life, instead He devises ways for the banished to be restored."
 
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1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all his enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.
All in all! The wages of sin are death! Everyone is a sinner therefore everyone dies. But, Christ loves us and will completely remove death. There will be no more suffering for anyone! Everyone will be with Christ, every person on the Earht will be alive through salvation!
FineLinen said:
Our God is the Author of salvation, it is His essence, linked with Light & Love & Spirit. The malista of His great love, know as forerunners of salvation, He lives as the Saviour of all mankind. He is NOT the Saviour of some of mankind, He saves ALL.
"We all must die & are like water spilled on the ground that cannot be gathered up again, but the Lord does not take away life, instead He devises ways for the banished to be restored."
Here are the vss. "in context."
1 Corinthians 15:21-24
(21) For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
(22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
(23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
(24) Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
This passage clearly shows that vs. 21 does NOT say "All will be made alive in Christ." as it was revised.
All mankind is "in Adam" because all mankind are literal, physical descendants of Adam. All mankind is not made in Adam by death.
All mankind is NOT "in Christ," that requires a conscious decision by each person, while they are alive. Mankind is NOT made "in Christ" by death.
Vs. 23 makes it absolutely clear that vs. 22 does NOT say "All will be made alive in Christ" as the vs. was twisted.
Vs. 23 "Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming." First Christ, then NOT all mankind but, only those who belong to Christ at His coming. They must already belong to Christ, when He comes.
Ooops!
 
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Isaiah 54:13 "All your children shall be taught by the Lord, and great shall be the peace of your children"

Everyone is the child of one person. No matter what, everyone alive has been birthed by someone else. Thus, this includes everyone. God will teach everyone righteousness and save everyone!
 
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Isaiah 54:13 "All your children shall be taught by the Lord, and great shall be the peace of your children"
Everyone is the child of one person. No matter what, everyone alive has been birthed by someone else. Thus, this includes everyone. God will teach everyone righteousness and save everyone!
It is dishonest and incorrect to take a verse out-of-context and try to apply it to others than the specific ones addressed. Isa 54:13 was addressed specifically to the nation of Israel.
Isaiah 54:4-5
(4) Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
(5) For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
 
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Matthew 19:14 Jesus said, Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.

We must have child like faith and throw away the false traditions of man! The common man might think himself wise and have an idea, but the truth is simple! So simple that even little children do not struggle to understand it. Everyone goes to Heaven! Jesus Christ will be all in all.
 
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Matthew 19:14 Jesus said, Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.

We must have child like faith and throw away the false traditions of man! The common man might think himself wise and have an idea, but the truth is simple! So simple that even little children do not struggle to understand it. Everyone goes to Heaven! Jesus Christ will be all in all.

Keep singing, my friend Song.

Our Father cares for all mankind. His kindness within the Lord Jesus Christ has no limits, but reaches to exceedingly beyond all we can possibly image.
 
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Matthew 19:14 Jesus said, Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.
We must have child like faith and throw away the false traditions of man! The common man might think himself wise and have an idea, but the truth is simple! So simple that even little children do not struggle to understand it. Everyone goes to Heaven! Jesus Christ will be all in all.
Read the rest of Matthew.
EOB Matthew:25:46 When he will answer them, saying: ‘Amen, I tell you: as much as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ 46 These [ones on the left] will go away into eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] punishment, [κόλασις/kolasis] but the righteous into eternal [αἰώνιος/aionios] life.”[p. 96]
…..Greek has been the language of the Eastern Greek Orthodox church since its inception, 2000 years ago +/-. Note, the native Greek speaking Eastern Orthodox Greek scholars, translators of the EOB, translated “aionios,” in Matt 25:46, as “eternal,” NOT “age.”
…..Who is better qualified than the team of native Greek speaking scholars, translators of the Eastern Greek Orthodox Bible [EOB], quoted above and below, to know the correct translation of the Greek in the N.T.?
Link to EOB online:
The New Testament ( The Eastern-Greek Orthodox Bible) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
…..The Greek word “kolasis” occurs only twice in the N.T., 1st occurrence Matt 25:46, above, and 2nd occurrence 1 John 4:18., below.

EOB 1 John 4:18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear, because fear is connected with punishment.[κόλασις/kolasis] But the one who fears is not yet perfect in love.[p. 518]
In the EOB the Greek word “kolasis” is translated “punishment” in both Matt 25:46 and 1 John 4:18.
…..Some badly informed folks claim “kolasis” really means “prune” or “correction.”
Sorry, that is impossible, both “prune” and “correction” are verbs. “Kolasis” is a noun. One cannot translate a noun as a verb.
Also according to the EOB Greek scholars “kolasis” means “punishment.”
Note: in 1 John 4:18 there is no correction, the one with “kolasis” is not made perfect. Thus “kolasis” does not/cannot mean “correction.”
…..It is understood that modern Greek differs from koine Greek but I am confident that the native Greek speaking EOB scholars, supported by 2000 years +/- of uninterrupted Greek scholarship, are competent enough to know the correct translation of obsolete Greek words which may have changed in meaning or are no longer in use and to translate them correctly. Just as scholars today know the meaning of obsolete English words which occur in the 1611 KJV and can define them correctly.
 
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Keep singing, my friend Song.

Our Father cares for all mankind. His kindness within the Lord Jesus Christ has no limits, but reaches to exceedingly beyond all we can possibly image.

Thank you for the reply, my friend FineLinen.

Luke 1:37 ESV "For nothing will be impossible with God.”

It is true. Whatever joy we think of for ourselves, whatever happiness we dream of for our families, whatever peace we imagine for all people of the Earth, God's love will exceed it.

Also, not only do we have the good news that all of humanity will be saved through Jesus Christ, but good news that the Tentmaker discussion forum is back up and running. Originally going down on September 9th, 2022, it is now back up as of September 24t,h 2022.

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As such, I will be able to continue posting Daily Universalist verses on that site too. As well, on a more personal note, to continue backing up the site using WinHTTrack Website Copier.

However, I will also continue posting Daily Universalist verses here too, since I've already been doing it for a while. The verses I post on Tentmaker and the verses I post on ChristianForums will be different, and I will provide commentary for both.
 
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Luke 3:6 "All flesh shall see the salvation of God."
Direct and straight to the point! God’s salvation is for every person on the Earth!
That it what the gentile Luke, who was not a disciple during the lifetime of Jesus, says. Where did Luke get his information?
Why is it that the proponents of UR can quote so many out-of-context proof texts but refuse to read the words of Jesus, Himself?

Matthew 7:21-23
(21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(22) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Jesus NEVER, at any time, said everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven. Jesus distinctly said "Not everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven." Then Jesus said that MANY, not a few, would say to Him, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?" But Jesus will say to them, the MANY, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

 
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John 1:29 NIV “The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!”

In the Old Testament, sacrificial lambs were used to cover the sins of people, such as the one the Jewish people put over their door frames to avoid the plagues sent to Egypt. Now, Jesus Christ is that sacrifical lamb, but not just for the Jewish people, but for all people in the world. We are all God’s creation in His likeness. Everyone in the world is a sinner, but Jesus will take away all the sin through mercy. All people will be saved through Him.
 
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John 1:29 NIV “The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!”
In the Old Testament, sacrificial lambs were used to cover the sins of people, such as the one the Jewish people put over their door frames to avoid the plagues sent to Egypt. Now, Jesus Christ is that sacrifical lamb, but not just for the Jewish people, but for all people in the world. We are all God’s creation in His likeness. Everyone in the world is a sinner, but Jesus will take away all the sin through mercy. All people will be saved through Him.
After John said that, Jesus said this.
Matthew 7:21-23
(21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(22) Many will say to me in that day,* Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
* day of judgement
In this passage Jesus does NOT say everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven. Instead, Jesus says “NOT everyone …shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.” Then “many,” not a few, will call Him “Lord, Lord” and brag about “all the good works” they claim they did in His name but Jesus will tell them, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
= = = = =
And Paul said this.

Romans 1:24
(24) Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans 1:26
(26) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:28
(28) And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
 
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John 1:29 NIV “The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!”

In the Old Testament, sacrificial lambs were used to cover the sins of people, such as the one the Jewish people put over their door frames to avoid the plagues sent to Egypt. Now, Jesus Christ is that sacrifical lamb, but not just for the Jewish people, but for all people in the world. We are all God’s creation in His likeness. Everyone in the world is a sinner, but Jesus will take away all the sin through mercy. All people will be saved through Him.
 
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John 1:29 NIV “The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!”
In the Old Testament, sacrificial lambs were used to cover the sins of people, such as the one the Jewish people put over their door frames to avoid the plagues sent to Egypt. Now, Jesus Christ is that sacrifical lamb, but not just for the Jewish people, but for all people in the world. We are all God’s creation in His likeness. Everyone in the world is a sinner, but Jesus will take away all the sin through mercy. All people will be saved through Him.
After John said that, Jesus said this.
Matthew 7:21-23
(21) Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
(22) Many will say to me in that day,* Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
(23) And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
* day of judgement
In this passage Jesus does NOT say everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven. Instead, Jesus says “NOT everyone …shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.” Then “many,” not a few, will call Him “Lord, Lord” and brag about “all the good works” they claim they did in His name but Jesus will tell them, “I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
= = = = =
And Paul said this.

Romans 1:24
(24) Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
Romans 1:26
(26) For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Romans 1:28
(28) And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
 
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Hebrews 9:26 “He has put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself”

All sin has been removed from the world. Everyone’s sins will be forgiven as everyone will come to see Christ as the Lord! Then, everyone will be in Heaven.
 
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Hebrews 9:26 “He has put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself”
All sin has been removed from the world. Everyone’s sins will be forgiven as everyone will come to see Christ as the Lord! Then, everyone will be in Heaven.
Anyone can make the Bible seem to say almost anything they want it to by quoting selective verses out-of-context.
Hebrews 2:3
(3) How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;
Hebrews 3:11
(11) So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
Hebrews 3:18-19
(18) And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
(19) So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Hebrews 4:6
(6) Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Hebrews 6:4-6
(4) For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
(5) And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
(6) If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Hebrews 10:26-31
(26) For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
(27) But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
(28) He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
(29) Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
(30) For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.
(31) It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Hebrews 10:39
(39) But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
 
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