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You do mind-reading tricks too! Really popular at parties then.
Since you seem to be aware of so many out-of-context UR proof texts I assume you have read the Bible and are aware of all the verses which pertain to UR. Since you do not post verses which contradict UR assumptions/presuppositions I can only conclude that you deliberately ignore them.
 
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John 12:32 "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."

Everyone will be drawn to God. All people from every nation around the world will witness Jesus Christ’s free gift of salvation for us all!

Yes, all will be drawn unto Him for judgment. Best to remember what happens when all people from from every nation stand before Christ:


Matthew 25:31-32
King James Version

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:



All may witness the salvation of God, but not all will receive it:


33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:



41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:



46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.



Yes, all will stand before Christ, and all will witness His salvation, but that doesn't change the fact that He Himself taught us that the unbelieving will never see life:


John 3:36
King James Version

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.



God bless.
 
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Matthew 11:27: "All things have been handed over to me by my Father”
Jesus Christ will take care of all the things in this world. He will redeem us and save us all!
Most unfortunate the Bible UR-ites use do not have these verses.
Matthew 13:22
(22) He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
Matthew 13:29
(29) But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:41-42
(41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
(42) And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:49-50
(49) So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
(50) And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 15:24
(24) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 18:6
(6) But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Matthew 18:17
(17) And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Matthew 18:34-35
(34) And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
(35) So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
Matthew 19:23-24
(23) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
(24) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Matthew 21:43-44
(43) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(44) And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
Matthew 22:13-14
(13) Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(14) For many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 23:13-15
(13) But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
(14) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
(15) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 25:11-13
(11) Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
(12) But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
(13) Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Matthew 25:31-32
(31) When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
(32) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

Matthew 25:46
(46) And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew 13:22
(22) He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
Matthew 13:29
(29) But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:41-42
(41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
(42) And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:49-50
(49) So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
(50) And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 15:24
(24) But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Matthew 18:6
(6) But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
Matthew 18:17
(17) And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Matthew 18:34-35
(34) And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
(35) So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
Matthew 19:23-24
(23) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
(24) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Matthew 21:43-44
(43) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
(44) And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
Matthew 22:13-14
(13) Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(14) For many are called, but few are chosen.
Matthew 23:13-15
(13) But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
(14) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
(15) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
Matthew 25:11-13
(11) Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
(12) But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
(13) Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
Matthew 25:31-32
(31) When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
(32) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Matthew 25:46
(46) And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
 
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1 John 2:2: "He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."

He is the cover of all the sins in the world. After Jesus Christ saves us, no one will be left with sin because we will all be saved and together in Heaven.
 
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1 John 2:2: "He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."
He is the cover of all the sins in the world. After Jesus Christ saves us, no one will be left with sin because we will all be saved and together in Heaven.
Your false interpretation of this verse is refuted by the words of Jesus in my Post #88 above
Link:
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1 John 2:2: "He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world."

He is the cover of all the sins in the world. After Jesus Christ saves us, no one will be left with sin because we will all be saved and together in Heaven.

The Master of reconciliation not only saves us, He makes us righteous. The entire world, not part of it, will one day bow within the Name of all names in worship.

Adam1 = "many made sinners."

Last Adam = the identical "many made righteous."
 
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FineLinen said:
The Master of reconciliation not only saves us, He makes us righteous. The entire world, not part of it, will one day bow within the Name of all names in worship.
Adam1 = "many made sinners."
Last Adam = the identical "many made righteous."
This is a false interpretation which is refuted by the words of Jesus, Himself. See my post #88, above this thread.
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
Jesus says, "Not everyone will enter the kingdom of heaven."
 
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1 John 3:5: "You know that He [Jesus] appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin."

There is no sin in God, God’s existence cannot allow sin. Therefore, God will go to each person in the world and use Jesus Christ as the cover for those sins, allowing everyone to be saved through Him.
 
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1 John 3:5: "You know that He [Jesus] appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin."
There is no sin in God, God’s existence cannot allow sin. Therefore, God will go to each person in the world and use Jesus Christ as the cover for those sins, allowing everyone to be saved through Him.
False, deceptive "interpretation" of this verse.
See my post #104, above, this thread
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
Jesus says, "
Not everyone shall enter the kingdom of heaven."
 
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Hello. I would originally post a Christian Universalist verse daily on the Tentmaker Universalism site. However, a Cloudflare error has caused the site to go down, specificially

"Table './hopebey1_tentmaker_forum/smf_messages' is marked as crashed and should be repaired"

I was posting daily Christian Universalist Bible verses and my own commentary of them on there, but since it's down, I've decided to continue doing that on this forum. There's some members from that forum that are also active on here, like FineLinen, who posts great content on there, so I figured I'd give it a shot here. They would also post daily content, which served as my inspiration for this series.

Everyone goes to Heaven, Christian Universalism.
Psalm 118:14 The LORD is my strength and my song

I used to go to Tentmaker but they banned me.
 
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False, deceptive "interpretation" of this verse.
See my post #104, above, this thread
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
Jesus says, "
Not everyone shall enter the kingdom of heaven."

That is a bit deceptive when the verse is left unfinished. Consider this:

Mat_7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Eventually all shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven for all shall do the will of the Father in Heaven.

To believe that God cannot or will not save everyone is contrary His value. Surely God would ATTEMPT to save everyone, correct? But those that believe He will not save everyone then cannot escape the fact that they are teaching that God would fail.
 
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That is a bit deceptive when the verse is left unfinished. Consider this:
Mat_7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Eventually all shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven for all shall do the will of the Father in Heaven.
To believe that God cannot or will not save everyone is contrary His value. Surely God would ATTEMPT to save everyone, correct? But those that believe He will not save everyone then cannot escape the fact that they are teaching that God would fail.[/
You imply that I omitted part of the passage then you do that very thing and make a statement that appears nowhere in scripture. Show me a verse which states this?
"Eventually all shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven for all shall do the will of the Father in Heaven."
This entire argument is refuted in my post #88 this thread
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
And post #90, this thread.
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
And post# 92, this thread.
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
And other posts this thread.
 
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You imply that I omitted part of the passage then you do that very thing and make a statement that appears nowhere in scripture. Show me a verse which states this?
"Eventually all shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven for all shall do the will of the Father in Heaven."
This entire argument is refuted in my post #88 this thread
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
And post #90, this thread.
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
And post# 92, this thread.
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
And other posts this thread.

The statement you made was not a verse in the Bible. Plus your Bible says the following:

Php_2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

That means that everyone shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven in due time. Again, anyone that says that God wont save everyone makes God out to be a failure.

Here is a challenge to you. Tell me which one of these is incorrect:

God gives life
God is ALL Powerful
God desires all to be saved
God does nothing in vain
God knows the end from the beginning
God doesn't fail

Because if you believe all of those are correct then all men shall be saved - just as your Bible says they will be.
 
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Join the bad boy club. - LOL
What did you do?

I actually don't recall at this point. I get banned from most Christianity forums at some point and move unto another.
 
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The statement you made was not a verse in the Bible. Plus your Bible says the following:
Php_2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
That means that everyone shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven in due time. Again, anyone that says that God wont save everyone makes God out to be a failure.
Here is a challenge to you. Tell me which one of these is incorrect:
God gives life
God is ALL Powerful
God desires all to be saved
God does nothing in vain
God knows the end from the beginning
God doesn't fail
Because if you believe all of those are correct then all men shall be saved - just as your Bible says they will be.
Typical heterodox evasive response. Any reply I could give you I have already made in this thread. After all I have been active at this forum since George H.W. Bush was president.
Feel free to address my existing responses.
Post #63

Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses

Post #80
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses

Post #82
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses

Post #104
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses
 
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I actually don't recall at this point. I get banned from most Christianity forums at some point and move unto another.
When people tell me I'm good, I reply:
"That's not what my Mom said, but we'll go with that."
 
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Typical heterodox evasive response. Any reply I could give you I have already made in this thread. After all I have been active at this forum since George H.W. Bush was president.
Feel free to address my existing responses.
Post #63

Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses

Post #80
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses

Post #82
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses

Post #104
Link: Daily Christian Universalist Verses

I don't have time to go back and read through your other posts to respond to them. Fortunately, I already know you will believe in universalism in due time.
 
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When people tell me I'm good, I reply:
"That's not what my Mom said, but we'll go with that."

I now look at it like any good that I am is Christ. For He has the copyright on all good works.
 
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