Daily Christian Universalist Verses

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EZEKIEL 33:11 As I live, says the Lord God, I have no desire for the death of the wicked.

The Lord God has no desire for the death of the wicked. His desire is for all people to become believers in Christ, for all of creation to be given a glorified body so all people can live in peace. A happy paradise in the city of New Jerusalem for all people of all nations. Everyone will be saved.

 

[Der Alte]

EZEKIEL 33:11 As I live, says the Lord God, I have no desire for the death of the wicked.

The Lord God has no desire for the death of the wicked. His desire is for all people to become believers in Christ, for all of creation to be given a glorified body so all people can live in peace. A happy paradise in the city of New Jerusalem for all people of all nations. Everyone will be saved.

These vss. by the same prophet say you are interpreting Ez 33:11, wrong.

Ezekiel 14:9-10​

(9) And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.​

(10) And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him;​

Ezekiel 18:24​

(24) But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.​

Ezekiel 21:31-32​

(31) And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.​

(32) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.​

Ezekiel 22:30​

(30) And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.​

Ezekiel 25:7​

(7) Behold, therefore I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and will deliver thee for a spoil to the heathen; and I will cut thee off from the people, and I will cause thee to perish out of the countries: I will destroy thee; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD.​

Ezekiel 25:15-16​

(15) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the Philistines have dealt by revenge, and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred;​

(16) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the remnant of the sea coast.​

Ezekiel 28:16​

(16) By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.​

Ezekiel 34:16​

(16) I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: ​

but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.​

 

[HSong]

EZEKIEL 37:12 I will open your graves and bring you up from them, and restore you to the land of Israel . You shall know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them, 0 my people. ( NEB )

All graves will be opened, everyone will be resurrected and be saved to eternal happiness in Heaven. The land of Israel will be restored as New Jerusalem in Heaven, the city with leaves of healing for all nations.

 

[Der Alte]

EZEKIEL 37:12 I will open your graves and bring you up from them, and restore you to the land of Israel . You shall know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves and bring you up from them, 0 my people. ( NEB )
All graves will be opened, everyone will be resurrected and be saved to eternal happiness in Heaven. The land of Israel will be restored as New Jerusalem in Heaven, the city with leaves of healing for all nations.

Your out-of-context proof text does NOT refer to all mankind only Israel whom God addresses as "O my people." This vs. does not say all graves.

 

[HSong]

HOSEA 6:1 Come, let us return to the Lord; for he has torn us and will heal us, he has struck us and he will bind up our wounds. ( NEB )



The Lord will heal us all. Though we are wounded and harmed now, eventually we will all be healed, we will all be saved from the harm on this planet.

 

[Der Alte]

HOSEA 6:1 Come, let us return to the Lord; for he has torn us and will heal us, he has struck us and he will bind up our wounds. ( NEB )
The Lord will heal us all. Though we are wounded and harmed now, eventually we will all be healed, we will all be saved from the harm on this planet.

Yet another out-of-context proof text which does NOT say God will save all mankind.

Hosea 5:1​

(1) Hear ye this, O priests; and hearken, ye house of Israel; and give ye ear, O house of the king; for judgment is toward you, because ye have been a snare on Mizpah, and a net spread upon Tabor.​

Hosea 6:1​

(1) Come, and let us [priests, house of Israel vs 5:1] return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us [priests, house of Israel vs 5:1] ; he hath smitten, and he will bind us [priests, house of Israel vs 5:1] up.​

Vs. 6:1 refers only to Israelite priests, house of Israel vs 5:1, not all mankind.
I think I can say without fear of contradiction that nobody can post a "universalist proof text" which cannot be refuted.

 

[Emun]

@HSong

Revelation 21:8
But for the cowardly, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and sexually immoral persons, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

Revelation 20:10
And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

 

[Der Alte]

HOSEA 6:1 Come, let us return to the Lord; for he has torn us and will heal us, he has struck us and he will bind up our wounds. ( NEB )
The Lord will heal us all. Though we are wounded and harmed now, eventually we will all be healed, we will all be saved from the harm on this planet.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: [no wrongdoer] neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Ephesians 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, [no wrongdoer] hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.​

Twenty two categories of unrighteous people who have no inheritance in the kingdom of God.1. adulterers, 2. covetous, 3. drunkenness, 4. effeminate, 5. emulations, 6. envious, 7. extortion 8. fornication, 9. hatred, 10. heresies, 11. homosexuals, 12. idolators, 13. lasciviousness, 14. murder, 15. reveling, 16. revilers 17. sedition, 18. strife, 19. thieves, 20. uncleanness 21. witchcraft. 22. Wrath

Vss cited: 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Corinthians 3:17

 

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HOSEA 14:4, 9 I will heal their waywardness and love them freely, for my anger has turned away from them .... Who is wise? He will realize these things. Who is discerning? He will understand them. The ways of the Lord are right; the righteous walk in them. (NIV)

God’s purpose becomes realized in all things. What is God’s purpose? God’s purpose is righteousness. Everyone will become righteous through Jesus Christ, all sinners on Earth will be saved.

 

[Der Alte]

HOSEA 14:4, 9 I will heal their waywardness and love them freely, for my anger has turned away from them .... Who is wise? He will realize these things. Who is discerning? He will understand them. The ways of the Lord are right; the righteous walk in them. (NIV)
God’s purpose becomes realized in all things. What is God’s purpose? God’s purpose is righteousness. Everyone will become righteous through Jesus Christ, all sinners on Earth will be saved.

Another gross misrepresentation of the verse. This vs. only applies to Israel.

Hosea 14:1​

(1) O Israel, return unto the LORD thy God; for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity.​

Hosea 14:4​

(4) I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely: for mine anger is turned away from him.​

Hosea 14:5​

(5) I will be as the dew unto Israel: he shall grow as the lily, and cast forth his roots as Lebanon.​

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Hosea 14:9​

(9) Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein.​

 

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JOEL 2:28, 3:21 And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people ... Their bloodguilt which I have not pardoned, I will pardon. (NIV)

All people are pardoned, prophesized by the Old Testament, brought forth to fufillment in the New Testament through His holy Son, Jesus Christ, bringing salvation to all people.

 

[Der Alte]

JOEL 2:28, 3:21 And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people ... Their bloodguilt which I have not pardoned, I will pardon. (NIV)
All people are pardoned, prophesized by the Old Testament, brought forth to fufillment in the New Testament through His holy Son, Jesus Christ, bringing salvation to all people.

By joining a part of vs 3:21 to part of vs 2:28 you have made the vss, say what they do not say. Vss. 3:21 is NOT about all mankind.

Joel 3:20 But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.
Joel 3:21 For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion.​

Vs, 21 refers only to Judah and Jerusalem. NOT all mankind.

 

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AMOS: 9:14 I will bring back my exiled people Israel. I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted. (NIV)

Never again to be uprooted. We will never suffer again after we are all saved by Jesus Christ. That is our guarantee given by The Lord Himself!

 

[Der Alte]

AMOS: 9:14 I will bring back my exiled people Israel. I will plant Israel in their own land, never again to be uprooted. (NIV)
Never again to be uprooted. We will never suffer again after we are all saved by Jesus Christ. That is our guarantee given by The Lord Himself!

God said "I will bring back my exiled people, Israel." Got some bad news for you amigo. You ain't Israel.

 

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1 Cor. 15:22 "Since by man came death, by man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam ALL died, even so in Christ ALL shall be made alive."

All in Christ made alive.

 

[HSong]

Love and Truth are the same my friend. Love = Truth and Truth = Love

God = Love = Truth.

John 12:32 "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL MANKIND unto Myself."

John 3:35 "The Father loves the Son and has given ALL THINGS into His hands."

God loves everyone, thus everyone will be saved.

1 Cor. 13:8 "Love never fails."



1 Corinthians 15:22-28 All will be made alive in Christ, but each in his own turn and ultimately Christ will subdue all his enemies, eliminate death and God will be all in all.

It is true as the LORD God has written it my friend

 

[Der Alte]

EZEKIEL 33:11 As I live, says the Lord God, I have no desire for the death of the wicked.
The Lord God has no desire for the death of the wicked. His desire is for all people to become believers in Christ, for all of creation to be given a glorified body so all people can live in peace. A happy paradise in the city of New Jerusalem for all people of all nations. Everyone will be saved.

These vss. by the same prophet say you are interpreting Ez 33:11, wrong.

Ezekiel 14:9-10​

(9) And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.​

(10) And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him;​

Ezekiel 18:24​

(24) But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.​

Ezekiel 21:31-32​

(31) And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.​

(32) Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.​

Ezekiel 22:30​

(30) And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.​

Ezekiel 25:7​

(7) Behold, therefore I will stretch out mine hand upon thee, and will deliver thee for a spoil to the heathen; and I will cut thee off from the people, and I will cause thee to perish out of the countries: I will destroy thee; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD.​

Ezekiel 25:15-16​

(15) Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the Philistines have dealt by revenge, and have taken vengeance with a despiteful heart, to destroy it for the old hatred;​

(16) Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will stretch out mine hand upon the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethims, and destroy the remnant of the sea coast.​

Ezekiel 28:16​

(16) By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.​

Ezekiel 34:16​

(16) I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.​

 

[Der Alte]

1 Cor. 15:22 "Since by man came death, by man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam ALL died, even so in Christ ALL shall be made alive."
All in Christ made alive.

The very next vs. shows that you are misinterpreting vs. 22

1 Corinthians 15:22-23
(22) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
(23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.​

Christ the firstfruits will be made alive afterwards "they that are Christ's at His coming." It does not say all will be made alive but only those who already belong to Christ when He comes.

 

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MICAH 7:18-20 Who is a god like thee? Thou takest away guilt, thou passes over the sin of the remnant of thy own people, thou dost not let thy anger rage for ever but delightest in love that will not change. Once more thou wilt show us tender affection and wash out our guilt, casting all our sins into the depths of the sea.


All of our sins being thrown away means all sinners will be forgiven through Christ Jesus.

 

[Der Alte]

MICAH 7:18-20 Who is a god like thee? Thou takest away guilt, thou passes over the sin of the remnant of thy own people, thou dost not let thy anger rage for ever but delightest in love that will not change. Once more thou wilt show us tender affection and wash out our [Israel] guilt, casting all our [Israel] sins into the depths of the sea.
All of our sins being thrown away means all sinners will be forgiven through Christ Jesus.

This vs refers to "the remnants of thy own people [Israel] not all mankind.

Micah 3:3-4​

(3) Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.​

(4) Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.​