This is a long set of teachings broken up into about 20 minute sections on the big picture view to understanding Christian Universal Redemption.

[Hentenza]

How do universalists deal with the following verses?

Jude 1:3-5

“Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all time handed down to the saints. For certain people have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into indecent behavior and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. Now I want to remind you, though you know everything once and for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1‬:‭3‬-‭5‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Jude 1:3-5 Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all time han | New American Standard Bible - NASB (

Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all time han

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[Clare73]

i am glad to hear you say you believe Jesus and that he will restore all things.
I don't understand your logic if heresy is not unbelief, unbelief is just believing something that is not true, no one believes nothing, everyone believes something and that belief that is not in line with Jesus then its heresy.

There are those who believe nothing regarding Jesus Christ.

 

[Jeff Saunders]

How do universalists deal with the following verses?

Jude 1:3-5

“Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all time handed down to the saints. For certain people have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into indecent behavior and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. Now I want to remind you, though you know everything once and for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.”
‭‭Jude‬ ‭1‬:‭3‬-‭5‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Jude 1:3-5 Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all time han | New American Standard Bible - NASB (

Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all time han

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The Greek word translated condemnation,(krima) is better understood as judgement, krima is derived from krimo, which is to distinguish or judge something.
Yes they are judged as bringing in false ideas, the word aselgeia,is what is translated as indecent behavior , most likely the teaching of antinomian thinking, the idea that gospel frees men so that they do not have to follow any law at all.
So if one goes to the grave in this way of thinking they will be judged as not following the teachings of Jesus and will be judged as so, and need to go to the time of correction kolasis aionios ,Matt 25:46 the pruning or loping off all that does not produce fruit. They will then be included in 1 Cor 15:24 as part of the telos of God, which we know in vs 28 is that God will be all in all.
As far as the English word destroyed the Greek word is apollumi, which means no longer useful for its intended purpose, it doesn't mean to be no more.
So no problem for this Christian Universalist. In the end God will get what he said would happen, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus is Lord.

 

[Clare73]

The Greek word translated condemnation,(krima) is better understood as judgement, krima is derived from krimo, which is to distinguish or judge something.
Yes they are judged as bringing in false ideas, the word aselgeia,is what is translated as indecent behavior , most likely the teaching of antinomian thinking, the idea that gospel frees men so that they do not have to follow any law at all.
So if one goes to the grave in this way of thinking they will be judged as not following the teachings of Jesus and will be judged as so, and need to go to the time of correction kolasis aionios ,Matt 25:46 the pruning or loping off all that does not produce fruit.

"Nice". . ."eternal punishment" of Mt 25:46 is now "pruning or loping off."

The itching ears (2 Tim 4:3-5) have arrived. . .

They will then be included in 1 Cor 15:24 as part of the telos of God, which we know in vs 28 is that God will be all in all.
As far as the English word destroyed the Greek word is apollumi, which means no longer useful for its intended purpose, it doesn't mean to be no more.
So no problem for this Christian Universalist. In the end God will get what he said would happen, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus is Lord.

 

[Hentenza]

The Greek word translated condemnation,(krima) is better understood as judgement, krima is derived from krimo, which is to distinguish or judge something.

strong definition
κρίμα kríma, kree'-mah; from G2919; a decision (the function or the effect, for or against ("crime")):—avenge, condemned, condemnation, damnation, + go to law, judgment.

Once again, the word translates as condemnation. The verse is translated correctly.

Yes they are judged as bringing in false ideas, the word aselgeia,is what is translated as indecent behavior , most likely the teaching of antinomian thinking, the idea that gospel frees men so that they do not have to follow any law at all.

So if one goes to the grave in this way of thinking they will be judged as not following the teachings of Jesus and will be judged as so, and need to go to the time of correction kolasis aionios ,Matt 25:46 the pruning or loping off all that does not produce fruit. They will then be included in 1 Cor 15:24 as part of the telos of God, which we know in vs 28 is that God will be all in all.
As far as the English word destroyed the Greek word is apollumi, which means no longer useful for its intended purpose, it doesn't mean to be no more.

Matt 25:46 states nothing whatsoever about a pruning. In fact it supports eternal punishment.

“These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25‬:‭46‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

Matthew 25:46 These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.” | New American Standard Bible - NASB (NASB2020) | Download The Bible App Now

These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

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So no problem for this Christian Universalist. In the end God will get what he said would happen, every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus is Lord.

This universalist is having some serous issues arguing his case.

 

[Jeff Saunders]

"Nice". . ."eternal punishment" of Mt 25:46 is now "pruning or loping off."

The itching ears (2 Tim 4:3-5) have arrived. . .

Look up the Greek word used kolasis, it was a arborist term for pruning or loping off parts of a plant so that it would produce fruit.
itching ears ? that's what the Greek says, I know it goes against tradition but this is what the early church believed till Christianity became the official religion of Rome and it became about religion and not relationship.

 

[Hentenza]

Look up the Greek word used kolasis, it was a arborist term for pruning or loping off parts of a plant so that it would produce fruit.
itching ears ? that's what the Greek says, I know it goes against tradition but this is what the early church believed till Christianity became the official religion of Rome and it became about religion and not relationship.

STRONGS G2851:
κόλασις, κολάσεως, ἡ (κολάζω), correction, punishment, penalty: Matthew 25:46; κόλασιν ἔχει,brings with it or has connected with it the thought of punishment, 1 John 4:18. (Ezekiel 14:3f, etc.; 2 Macc. 4:38; 4 Macc. 8:8; Wis. 11:14 Wis. 16:24, etc.; Plato, Aristotle, Diodorus 1, 77 (9); 4, 44 (3); Aelian v. h. 7, 15; others.)

Once again the verse is translated correctly.