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Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by dad, Mar 18, 2014.

  1. dad

    dad On the winning side Supporter

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    Kills em all equally...we know.
     
  2. Seipai

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    Yes, even Christians that believe Jesus know that Genesis is mythical. They know that Jesus used parables and allegory in teaching all of the time. He would have spoken to people in the language that they could understand.


    I know you are too busy proposing ideas that are unsound both Biblically and scientifically.


    I have no problem trusting God. You seem to be trusting man excessively since the Bible was written by men.


    I am totally unaware of medical murders.

    No, you keep forgetting that the cleanest countries are the most technological advanced ones. And if you believe your nonsense why are you using a computer?

    No one is justifying evil here. And you are being rather hypocritical. If technology is so bad you should swear off using it.
     
  3. Seipai

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    It also saves many many more lives equally. I bet without science you would be dead right now. From either starvation, since food production using modern technology has increased many times over what it was in the past, or disease.

    Yes, science can be misused. It also corrects itself. The Bible has been misused.
     
  4. dad

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    Try raving about med gods somewhere else. I am not buying.

    False. Science does not correct anything. Did it correct the hundreds of millions of babies it helped kill, or correct the people burned in Hiroshima..etc? No.
     
  5. dad

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    Nope. He talked of Noah. The New testament verifies creation and the flood. Period. Not a great thread to peddle nommie nonsense.
    He used parables to hide things from some, not us.
    False. The different state future is as sound as can be. The different state past is a solid and real bible case also. No whining permitted.


    That is not what the Scripture that Jesus sealed as true to the max teaches in any way. On the contrary. Funny you should accuse others of being unbiblical.


    Great. Enjoy the view from under the sand.

    Cleanest? So China is not advanced? The US is 'clean'? Why are you ranting on and on about the wonderfulness of science here? It is merely a pimple on the face of sinful man:)

    Sinful man is bad, and giving him advanced ways to rape and plunder and maim and kill is evil too. The good is swallowed up in the bad as far as science goes. What happens if nukes are used over Ukraine for example? Would the fact that Europe also had some good things from science help them?
     
  6. biggles53

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    You talk crap....

    'Science' is not a thing, it's not a person, it's not an entity.....it is simply the gaining of knowledge about the world around us...!

    What you are whining about are the actions that people choose to take when armed with that knowledge...! and guess what....because humans are the way they are, some of those decisions will be bad ones....but that's reflective of the PEOPLE, not the knowledge...!

    But, by all means, stop using your car, computer, air travel, buying food from the market, heating your home, wearing manufactured clothing.....oh, and don't forget to deny all of your loved ones any medicines or surgical procedures which might improve their lives...!

    Go live in a cave and let your god provide....that's what you believe isn't it...?
     
  7. dad

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    Knowledge like nukes. We know. Working toward some point?
    Sinners in other words with some smart weapons. Same old Cain, fancier club.

    Stop pontificating.

    Try to find some science relevant to the creation debate, or even the topic. There was a video discussed, what does our computer have to do with that? You want to chant a bunch of words and then associate your belief system falsely called science to them?? Science is in my back pocket...my little servant, there to be used as I see fit.

    Do not pretend that the evo position has any science at all.
     
  8. biggles53

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    Ah....a cherry-picker....quelle surprise..!

    So, science is the 'great evil', a 'tool of Satan' yadda, yadda, yadda.......

    BUT, when it conveniently meets your selfish needs, we quietly drop the 'evil' tag and meekly accept the benefits that the knowledge brings...

    You're the guy who recklessly drives his car, smashes into a tree, then blames the discovery of petroleum....!

    Cowardly and pathetic......oh, and hypocritical....!
     
  9. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    False. What he was talking about is completely hidden from you.
     
  10. dad

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    I do not take all things science offers as equal, that is freedom and sanity.

    Don't talk of science, you have none on offer regarding the creation debate, do you? All attempts to hitchhike on real knowledge and try to claim it somehow supports your fable factory of so called science are rejected. Out of hand.

    Foolish talk.
     
  11. dad

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    What Jesus talked about??? What are you on about now??
     
  12. biggles53

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    Uh, no....that's cherry-picking...

    All of the knowledge we derive from science is achieved using EXACTLY the same process....the scientific method...

    You don't like some of the findings that result.....? Tough....! Time for you to man up and face reality....
     
  13. dad

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    Choosing the good and eshewing the evil in life and science is a wonderful thing, a sane thing, a godly thing. Can't imagine anyone who would swallow all things whole good or evil. Gross.

    That says little, of course the present state method will work for many things...namely things of this nature, and state! That can't help you.

    The result of being free and sane is that we can chose between the good and the bad. Not like anyone needs to ask you.
     
  14. Seipai

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    That may be. But you have a very poor filter when it comes from telling the difference between good and evil.


    And please, you should be one of the last people to even use the word "sane" in this forum.

    Until you can show both some Biblical and scientific evidence for your so called "different state" you have nothing. In fact you have less than nothing. Your simple excuse that if you aren't right the Bible is wrong is not good enough. You are trying to make God look bad with your nonsense. I do not appreciate it.

    Nor do most other Christians.
     
  15. DogmaHunter

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    Yes. First by egyptian polytheists.
    Then greek polytheists.
    Then roman polytheists.
    Then greeks again.
    Then Muslims (who actually contributed major things in very short time, like algebra etc).
    Then, after europeans finnally started to crawl out of the church-dominated dark ages, by western christians.

    Today, science has the highest population of atheist.

    Not that it matters what people believe off course.


    I find it cowardly and disgusting that people live in denial.

    Do you even realise how much science your PC is based on?

    One of them is atomic theory. The same theory that informs us that the world is 4.6 billion years old.

    Again: go live in a cave.
     
  16. TLK Valentine

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    See? You don't even have a clue.
     
  17. Mr Strawberry

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    Free and sane....not words most people would associate with you, dad.
     
  18. PsychoSarah

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    Thank you dad, for finally asking for what info I have. Wait a little bit while I collect it all.
     
  19. dad

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    Are you here suggesting that the word of God is a 'poor filter'???


    Sane, sane sane. Take that!

    The differences listed, for example here form a strong biblical case. Science does not know either way, and can prove no case for any state of the past. Your comment on the concept is off target.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y45g_jmXkA8

    You want to suggest the bible is wrong now? The plot thickens. So it was not really that you felt I did not have a bible case, your problem seems to lie with the bible itself.

    I am pointing out that He was not a liar after all, as so called science tries to paint Him. There really was a creation of the world and man and a flood, etc. If you want to claim God looks bad for being real and true and the creator, you are on weak ground indeed.
     
  20. dad

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    ok.
     
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