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Contraception is moral

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality' started by metis2, Feb 28, 2021.

  1. Clizby WampusCat

    Clizby WampusCat Well-Known Member

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    Then show me the post where I said I wanted to restrict women's rights?
     
  2. VirOptimus

    VirOptimus A nihilist who cares.

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  3. Estrid

    Estrid Well-Known Member

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    That us such nonsense
     
  4. Clizby WampusCat

    Clizby WampusCat Well-Known Member

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    That quote does not show that my goal is to restrict women's rights.
     
  5. VirOptimus

    VirOptimus A nihilist who cares.

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    The result is the same.

    So no difference.
     
  6. loveofourlord

    loveofourlord Newbie

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    it has EVERYTHING. You can't pretend to care about fetuses to the point of in some states making miscarriage a crime, but as soon as they are born you care nothing for them.

    Oh they can't afford food, well it's their fault, we can't help raise minimum wage to make sure people can feed and house their families.

    We can't increase funding to their education.

    It's been pointed out that the right don't care about children or people as soon as they are born. Suddenly all that, "All life is precious." goes out the window, it's hypocrisy and really points to the fact that it's about controlling woman. If the right cared about people as much as fetuses and were as willing to help them then MAYBE it be more believable.

    funny how it goes in one breath to, "Abortion is murder." to, "You can't force me to wear a mask, or close businesses to save lives." or, "She had sex, it's her fault I'm not paying for her child I forced her to have."
     
  7. Estrid

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    This is a left- right thing, with half of your citizens
    gross hypocrites, not even human really as they care not
    for children?
    Personally, if I lived in the US, and felt the
    "Other party" so unjustly aboutvme, I'd loathe them
    right back, harder, as I'd have reason to.

    Your democrat led big cities are probably the
    worst places of all to beva child of poverty.

    But no doubt as long as there are points, even just
    self righteous virtue-points from name game finger pointing
    and vilifying, well, thems points and a lot easier than
    working for understanding and solutions.

    You guys, honestly. I wont ever go back to live
    in America.

    The epitaph for America, if yiu get one
    should read.

    "What a ( expletive deleted) stupid waste"
     
    Last edited: Mar 2, 2021
  8. Speedwell

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    In this case it's true "nonsense." Even if you believe that there is a "baby" from the moment of conception, abortion does not always kill it.
     
  9. Speedwell

    Speedwell Well-Known Member

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    Some Republican-run Southern states are arguably as bad or worse, and not all cities with poverty issues are run by Democrats.
     
  10. Clizby WampusCat

    Clizby WampusCat Well-Known Member

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    The difference is that my goal is not to oppress women. Just as I don't believe your goal is to oppress the unborn. When rights conflict both parties cannot have whatever they want.
     
  11. VirOptimus

    VirOptimus A nihilist who cares.

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    Results are what counts. So, you want to opress women, you just dont want to own up.
     
  12. Estrid

    Estrid Well-Known Member

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    Label as you will, that which was aborted was alive.
     
  13. Estrid

    Estrid Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure you got my point regarding
    dem v rep in matters of caring and success.
     
  14. Clizby WampusCat

    Clizby WampusCat Well-Known Member

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    I see you are not interested in truth but just want to rant about the right and that we all must be alike.
     
  15. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    I'm sorry, this original post makes far too much sense for someone with fewer than 10 posts. Where is the trolling and/or fictional personal situation?

    By which I mean, "Welcome, relatively sane person."
     
  16. Clizby WampusCat

    Clizby WampusCat Well-Known Member

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    No, I acknowledge the fact that when two peoples rights are in conflict someone must give up some to make it fair and moral. You refuse to own up to the fact that the unborn have rights and you don't care about oppressing them.
     
  17. Strathos

    Strathos No one important

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    All this blaming everyone about want to oppress people is hardly getting us anywhere.
     
  18. loveofourlord

    loveofourlord Newbie

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    I'm very interested in truth, I just love the hypocrisy of the right that pretend to care about babies but only care about fetuses. The world is starting to realize you guys are a bunch of jokes that just want to act moral while being immoral.
     
  19. VirOptimus

    VirOptimus A nihilist who cares.

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    Hypothetical persons dont have rights.
     
  20. Direct Driver

    Direct Driver Well-Known Member

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    It's not human until it becomes more than one cell. It takes that first split, at least for me. But even then, I think this issue is a red herring. Kinda like pregnancy from rape.
     
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