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Continental Drift
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So were the sub- continental indian plate and and asian plate.The austrlian plate is moving is moving north at about 3cm per year .I will let you know when we hit something.
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I have no idea. If the oceans sank, (which in turn raised the continents and mountains), then that's probably your answer. It's all highly speculative, since nobody knows for certain what happened, and therefore what evidence would be left behind.
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Accord to Burnet god took the water away .But that was the explanation 500 years ago. But I still haven't heard of abetter one
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If the oceans sank...we would have hit one of these 'subterranean oceans' by now...don't you think?
I have no idea either, only what does and doesn't make sense. You may prefer speculation, I prefer evidence. You state that with what evidence we have, we can't determine what happened? Ever watch CSI?....By your logic, murder cases couldn't be solved without an 'eye-witness'.
Come on Nick, we have plenty of evidence.
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You're not grasping the hypothesis, obviously. The subterranean oceans are mostly (if not all) gone now. The water was supposedly pushed up during the catastrophic event, which contributed to or caused the flood.
I guess debating this with you is a dead-end, since you're not following my position or the hypothesis. Of course we have evidence, but we can only interpret it.
And for the gazillionth time, interpreting evidence of the flood, evolution, etc., is not even close to the same thing as solving a crime. (That should go down in history as one of the most foolish straw-man arguments.)
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again I say that we know enough about the structure of earth to dis miss all these erroneous ideas put forward by creationists.Is this victory by attrition?
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You're hypothesis doesn't fit the evidence we have now within the mountain ranges. That's why I don't grasp it. Let's just say I accept your notion...All major mountain ranges were formed by a global flood just a few thousand years ago. Okay...now you have to explain the cave formations within these mountains. I'll give you one single cave..one single formation to make it simple. Cumberland Caverns.....first formation you'll stop at on the commercial tour. A massive ground formation, complete with a water fall and massive pool. 1 cubic inch of this particular formation forms every hundered years. Given the measurements, this one particular formation is over 100,000 years old. Now Nick...since I accept your notions (blindly), you have to explain the age of this particular cave formation within a mountain range that is no older than 10,000 years.
What it comes down to...their is OTHER geological proof to consider. This particular mountain range doesn't fit your timeline.
I'm sure I can find cave formations in ALL the mountain ranges that don't fit your timeline either.
Their is no dead-end with me Nick. If you present me with facts, I'll accept your notions. And why does science with evidence after the event apply only to murders in your view? This isn't a straw-man,,,this is your claim on how scientists work Nick. You can claim anything...but the proof lies with those who make the claims.
So..why can't we (scientists) use evidence (from other than a murder scene) to work backwards from Nick?
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The said hypothesis you posed: The sinking of the ocean floor theory...
Here's my question...what would you get with a massively sinking ocean floor? Can you say...one big massive whirlpool. Now ask..what would be the result and why isn't this feasible?
And vertical tectonics...I find no evidence for that. All i find is horizontal plate tectonic movement. And all the models of horizontal plate tectonic movements fit (dynamically) the formation of the mountain ranges.
You do know what dynamics are, don't you?
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Huh? That doesn't make sense at all. Have you actually modeled it and tried it? No, how could you? You don't know how the sinking occurred, where in both hemispheres, how much sinking there would be in all locations, how quickly the sinking would occur, etc. No doubt there would be incredibly massive turbulence in places at times, which would account for a lot of the fossil record (rapid burial, etc.).
Even in the horizontal plate-tectonics model, isostasy can occur for different reasons. Here's one way to illustrate how an uplift can occur.
Here's another.
Here's the site for the above:
http://www.bhc.edu/academics/science/harwoodr/Geog102/study/tecton1.htm
I also stumbled on this interesting proposal, which assumes the vertical movement of plates.
http://www.gisdevelopment.net/technology/gps/techgp0051pf.htm
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Nick,
Why do you insist on taking the flood literally? There is much more evidence against it then there is evidence for it. Why can't the Flood story just be taken for what it is, an allegory?
Why do you insist on taking the flood literally? There is much more evidence against it then there is evidence for it. Why can't the Flood story just be taken for what it is, an allegory?
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Why do you have a problem with others coming to a different conclusion than you do?
I happen to think the reverse is true.
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THIS IS SIMPLE FAULTING.How can you put this forward to explain tethys[look it up] What is a major geosyncline ,how many were there,and where? I live in graben and I can see the other side by looking out my front windowPLEASE do a bit of research so you know what you are talking about.
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Yes, the examples I gave were examples of faults and how stress affects things. You obviously missed the following and jumped to conclusions about what I was saying:
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Sorry if I misunderstood but by bringing the word isostasyinto the discussion you have opened another can of worms.This is aconcept accepted by anybody associated with tectonics. What is the effect of amajor geosyncline on the mantle.What are the results
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You're also making the mistake of thinking I believe the vertical tectonics explanation strongly enough to support it. I don't. I favor the catastrophic view. I just don't think vertical tectonics (or something like it, or some combination of mechanisms) should be ruled out.
Here's the link to an interview which deals with one of several catastrophic models:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/212.asp
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