So, Ed, the new owner is interested in making judgments regarding the hearts of the unorthodox Christians? I ask because this is a whole new way of structuring the board that we have never utilized in the past. In the past, while the unorthodox were relegated to Unorthodox Theology, their claimed relationship with Christ was never questioned. One could refer to themselves as Christian if they believed that they had a relationship with Christ. Now, the staff is saying that they can't call themselves Christian based on their theology rather than their heart condition. Isn't that a basic tenant of Christianity? That Christ doesn't save based on theology? After all, didn't Christ save us while we were yet sinners? It seems to me that the staff/owner is going someplace they shouldn't be going.
I'm wondering if forced icon changes are not far behind.
I wanted to say something similar to this. In all of the time that I have been at CF, people who consider themselves Christian were allowed to do so (although usually qualified by unorthodox).
I agree with Dawn that Christ saves us based on our heart, not based on if we have the correct theology. It is by grace that we are save, through faith.
Ephesians 2 4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressionsit is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithand this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are Gods handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
I would like to know where in the New Testament it states that if one does not believe Jesus has always been God, then he is not a Christian or that he is not saved. (I happen to believe this, but this is not about me) While I do not know much about JW beliefs, I know that LDS believe that Jesus was God (or a God) before the creation of our universe, and that He was Jehovah the God of the Old Testament.
But that is all really besides the point. Telling a group of people who believe that Jesus is their Savior and their Redeemer, who consider themselves to be Christian, that they are non-Christians ... I don't think that I want to go there. Discuss differences in theology is another matter than telling others that they are not Christians.