Yes, also his dad is an elder to, who had also abstained from the vote. However he supports discipline to be applied to his son buy not to me.
Five years no kids
Yes to all these, in fact his parents had up the outreach ministry which caters to immigrants .
It wasn't dealt with in the church at all. Furthermore there have been others in or church who have been less than faithful to their spouses and they are not dealt with either. And for me it is a non issue. When we first started dating he was actually engaged to some one else and I was one of two other women. We are both imperfect people add everyone is. As such it was something that never bothered me. Furthermore adultery in the biblical sense is when a man covets the wife of another man or when a wife seeks to know another man carnaly. I do not believe the bible actually prohibits men from having relations with women other than their own wives as long as the wife is taken care of.
That is a very simple thing to do but a big part of my issues is that church is my social circle. I genuinely enjoy doing the things like the picnics, teaching Sunday school, the sys and crafts class and the other things we do. Right now I am me incline to believe that the concept of church discipline is being misused and abused by individuals rather than this being a symptom of the church as a whole following false doctrine (i.e a cult).
I would look for a different church, no where in the bible does it say church discipline, at least not in mine, here's something to look at to find a better church.
To be really fair some context is needed. My husband is Chinese and he practices Hung-gar Shaolin Kung-fu and I am not taking about Wednesday night karate class at the Y, I am taking the real deal. It is something that is a generational tradition in his family going all the way back to the early Ming dynasty days. Xaio kun, the drunken style is very much rooted in tradition. The Bible's argument against drunkenness is decidedly in order for the faithful to not lose control of their bodies, I would argue that when he practices Xaio kun, he is very much in control despite his intoxication. It isn't drunken brawling, he was able to disarm all six of his Companions without injuring any of then. When the girl he named "Eurydice" charged him with a katana he was able to spin her around, take away the sword all without striking her even once. When the girl he named "Cassandra" just hid her face behind her fan and said "I don't want to be engineering manager" he stopped the broom handle just an inch from her face and and just tapped the fan out of her hand. The guys got it rougher though cause he disarmed them and knocked each one of them down. Also or church doesn't prohibit alcohol. I have been to other gatherings at which beer was served with children around (never to children though).
This is actually very funny because he use to be the church golden boy. So everyone approved and we're constantly telling me how lucky I am. He is tall,athletic, handsome, good with Cars, good with tools, basically the guy every one wished was their son. No body knew about his multiple girlfriends or any of the stuff he was involved in outside of church. Yes he had issues with one particular family but he mainly acted like they didn't exist. All of us younger people suspected there was something wanton and shady about him, truthfully speaking that's why I read so drawn to him. All the older people thought he was the best person ever, is because he use to do things like fix cars and cut trees for the more elderly church members and never seek payment. His rebellion became clear when he had a major falling out with several church mended at the same time back in December.
So you agree that extending discipline meant for my husband to me is both unwarranted and unprecedented? Would you say discipline for my husband is even merited in this case. I believe no, my father believes no but his father believes yes.
Also I personally believe the party should have been viewed as reconciliation. Nothing he did at the party was selfish or for him self. On the contrary he did everything in order to not let my personal clerical misjudgement from preventing my nephew from having a good party. It was my responsibility to arrange for entertainment and the grand gift but due to a series of miscommunications I really dropped the ball and there was not going to be a party if my husband didn't step up and take and take care if things in his unique way. His actions not only removed the onus my family put on me but also ensured my nephew had a memorable experience with his family. Furthermore my husband hosted even those families who he had personal beefs with and didn't treat aby of them with anything but hospitality for the sake of the children who are friends of my nephew. If that isn't a sign of reconciliation o don't know what is. Jesus said we have to love one an other he never said we had to like each other too.
One of the reasons it is so hard for me is because my entire family is there. Also, before the church discipline I was heavily involved with the little ones. I taught an arts and crafts class and I was a camp mom. I really don't want to leave my little ones. It made my heart smile when I saw how happy and how much fun they are having at the party. I was extremely excited because they wanted to build a castle like the one my husband and his companions built for our next project. One little girl even came up to me and my husband near the end of the party to ask if for yet another craft project if we could do a pirate ship because she wanted to have a pirate princess party for her next birthday. Even though my husband doesn't like her parents, he told her to ask her daddy first and if he says yes, he will make sure camp mom has pirate ship plans. It pains me that almost everyone forgot that this was suppose to be for the kids.
They have the right to establish their own rules and restrict access. Adultery and fornication are definitely sins one should avoid. If one repents of adultery, there may be forgiveness, but not all are capable of forgiving. Some people wanted adulterers stoned to death. A church might decide either way. If your husband stayed angry over a toy Tonka truck that was taken from him when he was a child, it is likely some people will not want to forgive him. They may have sought vengeance by restricting you as well.
