Celestial Marriage is a Commandment

[Rescued One]

So Jesus can not go to the highest celestial kingdom and be with God as he never married.

Sure he married(secretly?). After all, "Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise."
John 5:19

 

[drstevej]

Sure he married(secretly?). After all, "Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise."
John 5:19

Guess that means The Father was Crucified, Buried and Raised as well?

 

[joneysd]

Sure he married(secretly?). After all, "Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise."
John 5:19

I hope he doesn't marry mary like his dad.

 

[Rescued One]

Guess that means The Father was Crucified, Buried and Raised as well?

Wait a minute! I was quoting the Bible.

 

[joneysd]

But I was interpreting using my pet rock.

I cannot see any reason why your pet rock wouldn't be completely right.

 

[Rescued One]

Topic: Celestial Marriage is a Commandment

 

[drstevej]

Poor Emma.

 

[Rescued One]

Poor Emma.

Have you been peeking at the other thread Incentive to Become Mormon?

 

[Ran77]

Some of them will have an opportunity after death. The ones who don't are the ones who chose to not be married in the temple in this life; they are the ones who had the opportunity and rejected it.

CFR.

I would like to see some LDS sources that state what you have indicated above.

 

[bbbbbbb]

Good.






Not only is this not what LDS believe it also isn't what I posted. This is something you have developed on your own. Hopefully, anyone following the thread will recognize it as a false statement.

Okay, I am back to being confused and ignorant again. Please let me know which of the following statements is inaccurate:

1. Only those individuals who have fully obeyed all of God's commandments and ordinances will be exalted to the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom.
2. One of the ordinances necessary for such exaltation is the sealing of one's marriage in a Mormon temple.
3. Marriage sealing is performed by proxy in Mormon temples for those married individuals who have already died but did not have their marriages sealed in a Mormon temple prior to their death.
4. If an individual dies without ever being married then no proxy marriage can or will be perform for him or her in a Mormon temple.
5. It is impossible for an individual who dies without every being married to enter the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom because they will never to able to obey the command to have a marriage sealed in a Mormon temple.

Thank you.

 

[guerrillajane]

Okay, I am back to being confused and ignorant again. Please let me know which of the following statements is inaccurate:

1. Only those individuals who have fully obeyed all of God's commandments and ordinances will be exalted to the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom.
2. One of the ordinances necessary for such exaltation is the sealing of one's marriage in a Mormon temple.
3. Marriage sealing is performed by proxy in Mormon temples for those married individuals who have already died but did not have their marriages sealed in a Mormon temple prior to their death.
4. If an individual dies without ever being married then no proxy marriage can or will be perform for him or her in a Mormon temple.
5. It is impossible for an individual who dies without every being married to enter the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom because they will never to able to obey the command to have a marriage sealed in a Mormon temple.

Thank you.

1. False

2. True

3. True

4. False - We have no information one way or another on this, other than general knowledge that God in his infinite mercy and justice will provide for those who were "eunuchs" by choice or without choice.

5. False, see # 4.

 

[bbbbbbb]

1. False

2. True

3. True

4. False - We have no information one way or another on this, other than general knowledge that God in his infinite mercy and justice will provide for those who were "eunuchs" by choice or without choice.

5. False, see # 4.

What saith Ran77 to whom I addressed my post?

 

[guerrillajane]

What saith Ran77 to whom I addressed my post?

What does it matter who answers? We LDS all believe and know the same doctrines/theology.

We are of one accord, One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism.
We aren't like other religions or groups in which Theology/Doctrine can very person to person even in the same religion.

So again, what does it matter?

 

[Ran77]

1. Only those individuals who have fully obeyed all of God's commandments and ordinances will be exalted to the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom.

A: False. (Of course I recognize that no matter how I respond to this question our critics will find a way to attempt to turn it into a negative.)

2. One of the ordinances necessary for such exaltation is the sealing of one's marriage in a Mormon temple.

A: True.

3. Marriage sealing is performed by proxy in Mormon temples for those married individuals who have already died but did not have their marriages sealed in a Mormon temple prior to their death.

A: True.

4. If an individual dies without ever being married then no proxy marriage can or will be perform for him or her in a Mormon temple.

A: Unknown. There is no clear prophecy concerning this point. All that is known is that those who have lived worthy lives and have not had a chance to marry in the temple will not have any blessings of heaven denied them.

5. It is impossible for an individual who dies without every being married to enter the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom because they will never to able to obey the command to have a marriage sealed in a Mormon temple.

A: False. As I indicated above, worthy individuals will not have the blessings of heaven denied them. How that will be resolved is not known.

 

[Rescued One]

(8-4) There Are Provisions for Those Who are Single Through No Fault of Their Own

“Coming back then to the family, I think of my sister’s wife who died here a short time ago. She filled a mission for the Church; she worked in the auxillaries and she was a noble character. But she never married, and I can’t believe that the Lord’s plan is imperfect, that she will not ultimately enjoy all that her sister (my wife) with our wonderful family has enjoyed. ‘His purposes fail not, neither are there any who can stay his hand.’ (D&C 76:3.) . . .

“ . . . In order to properly understand this, I would like to read a couple of statements: one from Brigham Young about what will happen during the Millennium, and one from President Wilford Woodruff.

“President Young said, ‘To accomplish this work there will have to be not only one temple, but thousands of them, and thousands and tens of thousands of men and women who will go into those temples and officiate for people who have lived as far back as the Lord shall reveal.’ (Journal of Discourses 3:372.) Just think — if there are going to be thousands of temple and tens of thousands of people going to them, it will give you a little idea of what the Lord has in store for these spirits who have to have their temple work done.

“Then the Prophet Wilford Woodruff said: ‘When the Savior comes, a thousand years will be devoted to this work of redemption and temples will appear all over this land of Joseph — North and South America — and also in Europe and elsewhere.’ (JD 19:230.)” (LeGrand Richards in CR, October 1974, pp. 73-74; see also “What After Death?” Ensign, Nov. 1974, pp. 53-54.)
Achieving a Celestial Marriage Student Manual, p. 175


Morning of the First Resurrection: All those who lived righteously and are destined to receive a full inheritance in the kingdom of God, will be resurrected at the time of Christ's second coming. They shall be caught up to meet the Lord at this time and will descend with him to reign during the millennial era. (See D&C 88:97-98)

Afternoon of the First Resurrection: All those who lived, are Christ's, but are not worthy to receive a full inheritance in God's kingdom. They will receive a portion of Christ's glory but not a fullness. This resurrection will happen after Christ has ushered in the millennium. (See D&C 88:99)

Second Resurrection: All those who were wicked in this life and who have suffered the wrath of God while in spirit prison, will come forth in this resurrection which will not happen until the end of the millennium.

Resurrection of Damnation: The last to be resurrected are the sons of perdition who, in this life, gained a perfect knowledge of the divinity of Christ through the Holy Ghost but then chose Satan and came out in open rebellion against Christ. They will be cast out with the devil and his angels and receive no portion of Christ's glory. (See Hell in Three Kingdoms of Glory and D&C 88:102)

Death During the Millennium:
Those who live and die during Christ's millennial reign will not suffer death but will be changed in the "twinkling of an eye".

"Wherefore, children shall grow up until they become old; old men shall die; but they shall not sleep in the dust, but they shall be changed in the twinkling of an eye" (D&C 63:51.)
Resurrection - What is the Resurrection and Who Will be Resurrected?

 

[Rescued One]

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[bbbbbbb]

What does it matter who answers? We LDS all believe and know the same doctrines/theology.

We are of one accord, One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism.
We aren't like other religions or groups in which Theology/Doctrine can very person to person even in the same religion.

So again, what does it matter?

It makes a difference to me because I have learned that your beliefs differ from those of lds.org. Oddly enough, I consider lds.org to be more reliable than yourself. I also know from experience here that some are better at communicating these beliefs than others and are able to convey these beliefs where others fail.

I have known ran for much longer than I have you and, even though we disagree on many issues, I respect his insights and views, especially when he backs them up with factual and verifiable sources.

 

[bbbbbbb]

A: False. (Of course I recognize that no matter how I respond to this question our critics will find a way to attempt to turn it into a negative.)

A: True.

A: True.

A: Unknown. There is no clear prophecy concerning this point. All that is known is that those who have lived worthy lives and have not had a chance to marry in the temple will not have any blessings of heaven denied them.

A: False. As I indicated above, worthy individuals will not have the blessings of heaven denied them. How that will be resolved is not known.

Thank you.

I would like to discuss the first point. If I am not mistaken obedience to God's laws and ordinances is a condition for becoming exalted to the highest level of the Celestial Kingdom. Please note that I did not say perfect obedience as I did in the previous statement.

If obedience is required then how much obedience is necessary, assuming that something less than perfect obedience is acceptable?

 

[MattiMuck]

I'm seeing a lot of references to LDS specific texts. Do the words of Jesus apply to the LDS script?

Matthew 22:30 ESV

For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Revelation from God cannot contradict each other.

 

[Rescued One]

I'm seeing a lot of references to LDS specific texts. Do the words of Jesus apply to the LDS script?

Matthew 22:30 ESV

For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Revelation from God cannot contradict each other.

Well, I see you're only slightly familiar with Mormonism. They say there are no weddings in heaven. It has to be done on earth.