Celestial Marriage is a Commandment

[Rescued One]

Well, to be married was more or less God's first commandment to man.
So, in that sense it's a commandment. But, I'm not an expert on church policy, but if there isn't a worthy member to hold leadership that's married, or if the spirit directs, a single member can hold leadership positions.

I know generally they try to be married to follow the Lords plan however.
Counselor's for example can be single. LDS Singles wards for example have single counselor's in the Bishopric.

Man and woman as one and bringing children into the world is an important part of God's plan of salvation.

Ideally, there shouldn't be any singles' wards.

 

[Ran77]

Would you please answer Phoebe's questions in her post #4? All LDS may know the answers to these questions, but this is one non-LDS who does not know. Inquiring minds wish to know.

Why not just read through the responses that Pheobe got when she posted the same thing a few months ago. The answers haven't changed since then.

 

[joneysd]

so if only those married in a temple ceremony by the mormons can be with God, Jesus cannot be with God.

now that's shocking, neither can any one prior to 1830.

 

[guerrillajane]

so if only those married in a temple ceremony by the mormons can be with God, Jesus cannot be with God.

now that's shocking, neither can any one prior to 1830.

I don't know why Mormons have to keep repeating this?

Salvation and Exalting Ordinances are done for both the living and the dead, and that includes Marriage.

Your statement is hence a false witness.

 

[joneysd]

I don't know why Mormons have to keep repeating this?

Salvation and Exalting Ordinances are done for both the living and the dead, and that includes Marriage.

Your statement is hence a false witness.

so you are saying for Jesus to be able to go to God a mormon had to pray for him when he was dead?

 

[guerrillajane]

so you are saying for Jesus to be able to go to God a mormon had to pray for him when he was dead?

Jesus was baptized by one in authority to fulfill the Law, so I wouldn't find it surprising if other ordinances were done by or for him in order to fulfill all righteousness.

But, we have no knowledge of that matter.

 

[joneysd]

Jesus was baptized by one in authority to fulfill the Law, so I wouldn't find it surprising if other ordinances were done by or for him in order to fulfill all righteousness.

But, we have no knowledge of that matter.

Jesus was baptised by John, i am pretty sure he never went to a mormon temple based on the fact there were none at the time, so unless Jesus was prayed for when dead he cannot be with God.

Jesus was all righteousness, we get our righteousness through him, what possible mormon works would the saviour have to do to be righteous.

so as far as the LDS are concerned only those that have fulfilled lds doctrines and principals go to where God is.

 

[Norah63]

Why worry about single or married bishops or anything they do, or dont do?
How does that effect anyone elses salvation?
Let everyone work out their own salvation.
If Phoebe isnt LDS anymore it should be let go of. Unless she still needs reassurance from some on here.

 

[joneysd]

Jesus was baptised by John, i am pretty sure he never went to a mormon temple based on the fact there were none at the time, so unless Jesus was prayed for when dead he cannot be with God.

Jesus was all righteousness, we get our righteousness through him, what possible mormon works would the saviour have to do to be righteous.

so as far as the LDS are concerned only those that have fulfilled lds doctrines and principals go to where God is.

cannot believe Jesus won't be with God.

 

[Norah63]

joneysd, you missed it again.

 

[drstevej]

I don't know why Mormons have to keep repeating this?

Salvation and Exalting Ordinances are done for both the living and the dead, and that includes Marriage.

Are you suggesting a proxy marriage for the dead?

 

[Rescued One]

Are you suggesting a proxy marriage for the dead?

He would seal the deceased to the wife he had "till death do us part." Those who never married would have to agree to be sealed to another person who never had the opportunity of a celestial marriage. Well, heck, the woman who never had the opportunity, might be sealed to a man with three wives.

 

[joneysd]

Are you suggesting a proxy marriage for the dead?

sounds like it and a proxy marriage for Jesus or he could not be with God in heaven.

 

[bbbbbbb]

sounds like it and a proxy marriage for Jesus or he could not be with God in heaven.

Yeah, it is really weird. I often wonder who determines who will marry whom after death. Unless there is serious necromancy going on, the dearly departed have no say in the matter. It seems that the decision is totally in the hands of Mormon marriage brokers.

What if, for example, the Virgin Queen, Elizabeth I of England, decided that she really does not want to be married for eternity to Julius Caesar, but the temple ceremony is performed anyway. Is she then stuck with him as her husband forever? If so, does he get to perform his marital duties with or without her permission?

 

[joneysd]

Yeah, it is really weird. I often wonder who determines who will marry whom after death. Unless there is serious necromancy going on, the dearly departed have no say in the matter. It seems that the decision is totally in the hands of Mormon marriage brokers.

What if, for example, the Virgin Queen, Elizabeth I of England, decided that she really does not want to be married for eternity to Julius Caesar, but the temple ceremony is performed anyway. Is she then stuck with him as her husband forever? If so, does he get to perform his marital duties with or without her permission?

what a sobering thought, you could be bound to anyone. yuck.

 

[skylark1]

Yeah, it is really weird. I often wonder who determines who will marry whom after death. Unless there is serious necromancy going on, the dearly departed have no say in the matter. It seems that the decision is totally in the hands of Mormon marriage brokers

What if, for example, the Virgin Queen, Elizabeth I of England, decided that she really does not want to be married for eternity to Julius Caesar, but the temple ceremony is performed anyway. Is she then stuck with him as her husband forever? If so, does he get to perform his marital duties with or without her permission?

This is from the official LDS site:

In addition to receiving these ordinances for ourselves, we can receive them for our deceased ancestors. In this way, people who died without receiving essential ordinances such as baptism and confirmation, the endowment, and sealing have the opportunity to accept these ordinances.

https://www.lds.org/church/temples/frequently-asked-questions​

LDS teach that the people for whom the ordinances are performed have the opportunity to accept or reject them. It is my understanding that the marriage sealings are done for those who are were married in mortality.

 

[Rescued One]

Yeah, it is really weird. I often wonder who determines who will marry whom after death. Unless there is serious necromancy going on, the dearly departed have no say in the matter. It seems that the decision is totally in the hands of Mormon marriage brokers.

What if, for example, the Virgin Queen, Elizabeth I of England, decided that she really does not want to be married for eternity to Julius Caesar, but the temple ceremony is performed anyway. Is she then stuck with him as her husband forever? If so, does he get to perform his marital duties with or without her permission?

Unless both parties accept, it's null and void. What is the likelihood of both my maternal grandparents accepting Mormonism? My paternal grandparents were divorced.

 

[Ran77]

Yeah, it is really weird. I often wonder who determines who will marry whom after death. Unless there is serious necromancy going on, the dearly departed have no say in the matter. It seems that the decision is totally in the hands of Mormon marriage brokers.

What if, for example, the Virgin Queen, Elizabeth I of England, decided that she really does not want to be married for eternity to Julius Caesar, but the temple ceremony is performed anyway. Is she then stuck with him as her husband forever? If so, does he get to perform his marital duties with or without her permission?

This is a good example of what was mentioned in one of the other threads. LDS have on multiple occasions explained this process, but our critics continue to make ridiculous statemenents that are nothing like what we believe. Proxy marriages are done for those who were married during their life. There is no fantasy matchup marriage like what you suggest above. The individuals can accept them, or reject them, as they wish. It is not forced upon them. It is provided as an opportunity if they want it.

What purpose does it serve to continually, and I suspect purposely, misrepresent LDS beliefs in this manner?


:o

 

[joneysd]

This is a good example of what was mentioned in one of the other threads. LDS have on multiple occasions explained this process, but our critics continue to make ridiculous statemenents that are nothing like what we believe. Proxy marriages are done for those who were married during their life. There is no fantasy matchup marriage like what you suggest above. The individuals can accept them, or reject them, as they wish. It is not forced upon them. It is provided as an opportunity if they want it.

What purpose does it serve to continually, and I suspect purposely, misrepresent LDS beliefs in this manner?


:o

so Jesus cannot be in heaven with God as Jesus never got married and did not have a mormon temple ceremony.

 

[Norah63]

You missed it again. Joneysd.