Can a true born again Christian EVER lose their salvation? Is there a point in which a Christian can sin in which they can actually lose their salvation? What about falling away? And other ways people claim you can lose your salvation? Why or why not?
Can a true born again Christian EVER lose their salvation? Is there a point in which a Christian can sin in which they can actually lose their salvation? What about falling away? And other ways people claim you can lose your salvation? Why or why not?
Can a true born again Christian EVER lose their salvation? Is there a point in which a Christian can sin in which they can actually lose their salvation? What about falling away? And other ways people claim you can lose your salvation? Why or why not?
Regarding Hymenaeus, Alexander, and Philetus, these were heretical teachers; false prophets in sheep's clothing, teaching against the doctrine of the resurrection. 2 Peter 2:20-22 is clear that men like that came unto the knowledge of the gospel of Jesus, but never obeyed from the heart the gospel, like we are told in 2 Thessalonians 1:8 and Romans 6:17. They were never saved in the first place.Absolutely. The Bible specifically speaks of those who have made shipwreck of their salvation, and it doesn't say anywhere that it can't be done.
Tell me, can such a person ever deny Christ and walk away from Christianity?Can a true born again Christian EVER lose their salvation?
It is a very interesting subject, friend, you're right about that; and it's also a very touchy one amongst spiritual Christians, I've noticed. Christians who don't believe once-saved, always-saved will declare up and down that it's a damnable doctrine that causes people to go to hell, and shouldn't be taught. They claim that we must "work out our salvation with fear and trembling" as a condition to retaining our salvation, and I've also heard it said by many of that persuasion that "God won't walk away from you, but you can walk away from God." Logically and rhetorically, those arguments may make sense at first, but they ultimately don't line up with the teaching of scripture (unless the scriptures being used are being twisted to fit their argument); and if they claim that it's a doctrine that causes people to be sent to hell, then they are claiming a doctrine in which a person trusts solely and completely in the free gift of God is sending people to hell, thereby declaring a person's personal righteousness with having anything at all to do with the condition of their salvation: and we all know where that leads.
It seems to me that not believing that a person's salvation is eternally secure in Christ causes a breakdown of the perfect connection of biblical doctrine, which thereby creates contradictions with their personal beliefs about God's grace and mercy, and the free gift of God, but they never seem to recognize that.
And they always seem to be the most anxious folks too, if you notice - never quite relaxed about their salvation. Perhaps boastful due to plethora of good works they feel they do in order to stay on God's good side, but never assured of their salvation. Personally, I couldn't live out my faith that way.
Nevertheless, I'm very glad to see you searching out this subject and seeking a variety of opinions. I pray God blesses your research and brings fruit to your faith as a result. God bless, friend.
We are warned repeatedly throughout the new testament that salvation is a gift that can be forfeited. It cannot be taken away, and God will not change His mind about it, but a person can squander his salvation through sin or apostasy.
Consider these verses:
From these verses, whoever is born again accepts that Jesus has conquered death and through him we can have victory over sin just has Jesus have victory over sin.
- 1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
- 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
- Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
So, I think we will not lose our salvation, unless we think that we don't need God anymore to help us achieve perfection of character.
The people personally rejects salvation. Issue of the heart. We ourselves knows our decision. When this person keeps living this life, he will eventually reach a level where every word of God does not bring "good effect" to them rather, the word will hardened their heart.
- Acts 28:25-27 And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them
Cheers.
- 2 Corinthians 2:15,16 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?
Absolutely. The Bible specifically speaks of those who have made shipwreck of their salvation, and it doesn't say anywhere that it can't be done.
Tell me, can such a person ever deny Christ and walk away from Christianity?
If you believe that then your question is answered but if you doubt it then your question is still answered.They could. But one of the jobs of the Holy Spirit is to keep believers believing. So in my opinion no true born again believer would ever fall away.
If you believe that then your question is answered but if you doubt it then your question is still answered.
The fallen angels will never again become angels. They will be destroyed. They have no forgiveness.There are many examples of people who say they have "lost their faith". If a sinner can become a saint, why can't a saint become a sinner again? Did not the angels of heaven become demons? Yet they will once again become angels. The prodigal son was once alive, then became "dead" in sins, yet thereafter became "alive again".
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