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My question was asked tongue-in-cheek.
-CryptoLutheran
Are you saying what you posted was not true?
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My question was asked tongue-in-cheek.
-CryptoLutheran
What you're posting isn't spiritual or Scriptural.
What is not Spiritual? Only scripture is posted?
Are you saying what you posted was not true?
Merely quoting Scripture doesn't make something "spiritual"; the devil is able to quote Scripture. Assuming that one has said something profound and spiritual simply because they've quoted the Bible doesn't mean they have said anything profound and spiritual. That's my point. So quoting a few verses, and then not explaining the point you are making and that someone else is spiritually incapable of understanding it is meaningless hot air. It's religious puffery.
-CryptoLutheran
It was a rhetorical question. I don't understand why you're struggling with this.
"rhe·tor·i·cal ques·tion
noun
noun: rhetorical question; plural noun: rhetorical questions
a question asked in order to create a dramatic effect or to make a point rather than to get an answer."
-CryptoLutheran
What was the point you were trying to make then and why not just speak plainly?
My point is that we don't earn brownie points. Everything we have from God is unearned, unmerited, freely given, and ours already on Christ's account.
If one is preaching a message that we must satisfy some measure of moral magnitude in order to be "saved" then they are denying the gift freely given and relying instead on their own efforts and righteousness.
There is only one righteousness that matters for sinners, and that is the righteousness of Jesus Christ freely given as grace.
-CryptoLutheran
Who said we earn brownie points? Salvation is a free gift given to all that BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD *EPHESIANS 2:8.
However, is God's LAW (10 commandments) abolished through faith or is it establsihed in the heart to love *ROMANS 3:31; HEBREWS 8:10-12; ROMANS 13:8-10? If our faith has no fruit is it the Faith that God wants us to have or the faith of the devils *JAMES 2:18-20; 26; MATTHEW 7:16-23?
Is someone who is living a life of known unrepentant sin in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God *HEBREWS 10:26-27?
As a result of. No good fruits as defined by Jesus to verify claim of allegiance to Kingdom rather than world of man, no entrance.If we must be righteous by our own works for the purpose of our salvation
As a result of.
Exactly. Nothing we do brought about salvation by way of the Kingdom. We could not make it. But those who twist words to say we need not do good works are those who wish to justify their remaining loyal to the world of man. Loving neighbour as self is an attack on the human self serving wayGod doesn't need my good works, but my neighbor does. My neighbor is the one who is hungry. My neighbor is the one who is thirsty. My neighbor is the one who needs clothing, medicine, a roof over their head.
Exactly. Nothing we do brought about salvation by way of the Kingdom. We could not make it. But those who twist words to say we need not do good works are those who wish to justify their remaining loyal to the world of man. Loving neighbour as self is an attack on the human self serving way
The religious right might disagree unless a convenient work was politically expedient. But that is a matter of pick and choose to benefit the governance of man rather than the governance of God.You're not going to find many Christians who think we shouldn't be doing any good works.
only God's grace through the Gospel can justify sinners by clothing them with the righteousness of Jesus, and reconciling them to God in Him.
If we must be righteous by our own works for the purpose of our salvation then that is, by necessity, a system of "brownie points".
You don't get to call something a free gift and then talk about how we have to earn it.
-CryptoLutheran
Brother you have not answered a single question asked of you. As posted earlier brother Salvation is a free gift given to all that BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD *EPHESIANS 2:8?
1. Now who is saying you must be rightoues by our own works?
2. If we love GOD will we do what he asks us to do not because we are saved by what he asks us but because we LOVE God *JOHN 14:15; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; JOHN 15:10?
3. Is God's LAW (10 commandments) abolished through faith or is it establsihed in the heart to love *ROMANS 3:31; HEBREWS 8:10-12; ROMANS 13:8-10?
4. If our faith has no fruit is it the Faith that God wants us to have or the faith of the devils *JAMES 2:18-20; 26; MATTHEW 7:16-23?
5. Is someone who is living a life of known unrepentant sin in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God *HEBREWS 10:26-27?
6. Are trying to answer the OP question # 5. Can we be saved while continuing in known unrepentant sin by saying that we can continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN and be saved?
Thanks for your clarification.
Romans 7:6Establishing the Law is through the new birth, by grace through faith we become the righteousness of God in Christ. I think thats pretty comprehensive and consistant with what Paul taught in Romans. We do not set aside the Law, we establish it.
I don't know what to tell you about the OP but the questions have been asked and answered, not completely or perfectly but sufficiently, and I would add, repeatedly.
I don't play Adventist games.
-CryptoLutheran