CAN WE BE SAVED WHILE CONTINUING IN KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN? WHAT IS SIN? WHAT IS RIGHTEOUSNESS?

[LoveGodsWord]

Hi all, this is just a simple discussion where we can all share God's WORD together in a friendly manner.

The questions being posted for discussion here are;

1. What is sin?

2. What is rightouesness?

3. What is repentance?

4. What do we repent from?

5. Can we be saved while continuing in known unrepentant sin?

Our opinions matter little so please provide scriptures to support your views. Look forward to hearing from you all.

I will link the questions above to the answers as we move through this thread for anyone interested in reading the answers to these questions above at a latter date.

For now what is your view on the above questions (scripture please)?

God bless.

 

[timothyu]

WHAT IS SIN?

WHAT IS RIGHTOUESNESS?

WHAT IS REPENTANCE?

WHAT DO WE NEED TO REPENT FROM?

Sin... putting our will before the will of God (see Eve) What is our will but the self serving self justifying ways of man that seeks gain at the expense of others and self justifies such by redefining good and evil to suit the deed.
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.

Righteousness... doing His will
Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Repentance.. wilfully turning away from through understanding, change
Acts 26:20 ... that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Matthew 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. 17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Repent from.. turn away from... the self serving ways of man

Luke 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

 

[HTacianas]

Hi all, this is just a simple discussion where we can all share God's WORD together in a friendly manner.

The questions being posed for discussion here are;

WHAT IS SIN?

WHAT IS RIGHTOUESNESS?

WHAT IS REPENTANCE?

WHAT DO WE NEED TO REPENT FROM?

CAN WE BE SAVED WHILE CONTINUING IN KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN?

Our opinions matter little so please provide scriptures to support your views. Look forward to hearing from you all.

God bless.

Heb 10:26 - For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Heb 10:27 - But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Heb 10:28 - He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

Heb 10:29 - Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Sin... putting our will before the will of God (see Eve)
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.

Righteousness... doing His will
Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Repentance.. wilfully turning away from through understanding, change
Acts 26:20 ... that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance.
Matthew 4:16 The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up. 17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Repent from? the self serving ways of man

Luke 16:15 And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God.

James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before our God and Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

James 4:4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Hello brother timothyu, good post and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Is that all to what sin is? How does God's Word define what sin is? Repentance; turning away from what? I believe also RIGHTOEUSNESS is doing his will, but what is the standard of RIGHTEOUSNESS and what does it mean in your view? Thanks for sharing brother, nice post.

God bless

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Heb 10:26 - For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Heb 10:27 - But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Heb 10:28 - He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

Heb 10:29 - Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Hello brother HTacianas, nice to see you again and thanks for sharing your thoughts, great post as well showing that God does not want us to practice sin. What is SIN in your view brother and why should we not practice sin? Thanks for sharing.

God bless.

 

[timothyu]

Hello brother timothyu, good post and thanks for sharing your thoughts. Is that all to what sin is? How does God's Word define what sin is? Repentance; turning away from what? I believe also RIGHTOEUSNESS is doing his will, but what is the standard of RIGHTEOUSNESS and what does it mean in your view? Thanks for sharing brother, nice post.

It is quite simple and all were addressed in the post

 

[HTacianas]

Hello brother HTacianas, nice to see you again and thanks for sharing your thoughts, great post as well showing that God does not want us to practice sin. What is SIN in your view brother and why should we not practice sin? Thanks for sharing.

God bless.

1Jo 3:4 - Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

1Jo 3:4 - Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Yep good reply brother and also from God's WORD thanks for sharing. What do you think the meaning of the second part of ROMANS 14:23 means in relation to defining what sin is? Also, how does this relate to God's WORD and ACTS 17:30-31?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

It is quite simple and all were addressed in the post

Thanks for your thoughts tim your post was a very good post indeed, but not everything was addressed in your post. Is that all to what sin is? How does God's Word define what sin is? Repentance; turning away from what? I believe also RIGHTOEUSNESS is doing his will, but what is the standard of RIGHTEOUSNESS and what does it mean in your view?

These questions are further questions to your post that your post does not discuss. It is ok if you did not wish to answer these questions. I am happy to latter. I just wish to see the view of everyone to the questions in the OP.

Thanks for sharing brother, nice post.

 

[timothyu]

but not everything was addressed in your post.

I edited

 

[timothyu]

Repentance; turning away from what? I believe also RIGHTOEUSNESS is doing his will, but what is the standard of RIGHTEOUSNESS and what does it mean in your view?

Away from the self serving ways of mankind, away from the world built upon those ideals. Righteousness was covered with the scripture.. it is loving all neighbours as self as the scripture in context implies

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Away from the self serving ways of mankind, away from the world built upon those ideals. Righteousness was covered with the scripture.. it is loving all neighbours as self as the scripture in context implies

Thanks Tim for your thoughts brother. It is ok I will post on it more latter.

God bless

 

[1stcenturylady]

Sin is the breaking of God's eternal laws and walking in the flesh:

"Love God with all your heart, soul and body, and love your neighbor as yourself." Our New Covenant shows us that Jesus is God, and thus loving Jesus with all our heart, soul and body, and loving our neighbor as ourselves. 1 John 3:23. Anyone that shows laws that do not include Jesus as God are kidding themselves.

1 Corinthians 6: Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5 also shows walking in the flesh as not inheriting the Kingdom of God: Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21: 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Sin is the breaking of God's eternal laws and walking in the flesh:

"Love God with all your heart, soul and body, and love your neighbor as yourself." Our New Covenant shows us that Jesus is God, and thus loving Jesus with all our heart, soul and body, and loving our neighbor as ourselves. 1 John 3:23. Anyone that shows laws that do not include Jesus as God are kidding themselves.

1 Corinthians 6: Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5 also shows walking in the flesh as not inheriting the Kingdom of God: Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Revelation 21: 8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

Hello 1stcenturylady, nice to see you again and hope you are well. Indeed good post. Sin is indeed breaking any one of God's ETERNAL LAWS. What is RIGHTOUESNESS and what does it mean according to God's WORD? If someone is living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God? Thanks for sharing your thoughts here.

God bless.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Hello 1stcenturylady, nice to see you again and hope you are well. Indeed good post. Sin is indeed breaking any one of God's ETERNAL LAWS. What is RIGHTOUESNESS and what does it mean according to God's WORD? If someone is living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God? Thanks for sharing your thoughts here.

God bless.

Righteousness is walking in the Spirit. However, you must be filled with the Spirit in order to walk in the Spirit. The opposite of walking in the Spirit is walking in the flesh.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Righteousness is walking in the Spirit. However, you must be filled with the Spirit in order to walk in the Spirit. The opposite of walking in the Spirit is walking in the flesh.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I believe walking in God's SPIRIT leads to RIGHTOEUSNESS, but what is RIGHTOUESNESS accoding to God's WORD? Also, if someone is living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God? Thanks for sharing your thoughts here.

God bless.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I believe walking in God's SPIRIT leads to RIGHTOEUSNESS, but what is RIGHTOUESNESS accoding to God's WORD? Also, if someone is living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God? Thanks for sharing your thoughts here.

God bless.

Someone walking in the Spirit cannot commit unrepentant sin. 1 John 3:9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Someone walking in the Spirit cannot commit unrepentant sin. 1 John 3:9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Indeed but but what is RIGHTOUESNESS accoding to God's WORD? Also, if someone is living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God? Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. If you do not wish to answer the questions it is ok just say so.

God bless.

 

[timothyu]

Matthew 6: 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Matthew 22: 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Simple. His will is righteousness and we are to put it before our own will. His will for us is verse 39, hence if we follow it we are walking in his righteousness and putting it before our will which runs contrary in nature.

 

[1stcenturylady]

Indeed but but what is RIGHTOUESNESS accoding to God's WORD? Also, if someone is living a life of KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN are they in a saved state before God or an unsaved state before God? Thanks for sharing your thoughts here. If you do not wish to answer the questions it is ok just say so.

God bless.

My answers may not be what you want to hear, but God's Word tells us we must be born again of the SPIRIT. And those who are saved walk in the Spirit, not after the flesh. It goes much deeper than the old testament law you are looking for. It is now broken down to those who walk in the Spirit of Christ, or those who walk after the flesh. Saved vs. unsaved

Romans 8:1- There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.

You believe it is following the ministry of death, engraved on stone. The New Covenant is the ministry of the Spirit.