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Jesse, may God bless you. Please know He created you the way He did for a reason. He loves you, He has not and will not abandon you.

Everyone goes through struggles. My sins are no "better" or "worse" than your sins are. Don't sit in harsh judgment of yourself. Know that you are loved. Jesus is merciful and kind. He loves you. Hang onto that. The most important thing is knowing who you are in Christ. Not male, female, hetero, homo, whatever, none of that matters. You are YOU. There is only one you. God loves YOU.

And please change your user name to "IAMSOMEBODY". For me. ;)

Thank you.

God bless you, too.

I will change it.
 
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You can pray without ceasing, too, even on commercials. :)

I spend my days sometimes doing many busy things (if at work) or sometimes just vegging out in front of the TV if I need a break from being too busy.

My most common prayer to God each day, a hundred times a day probably, is "Thank You. Thank You for being with me." That's it.

Just thank Him for His presence in your life. When you wake up say good morning to Him and thank Him. When you go to sleep, thank Him. Walking with God should be a joy, not a burden. He doesn't want you to be unhappy and miserable or not have any fun. Jesus came to give us life in abundance. And peace. And joy! Why do so many Christians forget about the joy?

Have fun in your life, enjoy your life, it is ok. :) Relax. Take a breath. Give Him your thanks. Keep it simple. Know He loves you. You are forgiven.

You do not have to be perfect. I will repeat - You do not have to be perfect. God is perfecting you, day by day.

We are ALL works in progress. We are all sinners saved by grace. You are loved.
 
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You can pray without ceasing, too, even on commercials. :)

I spend my days sometimes doing many busy things (if at work) or sometimes just vegging out in front of the TV if I need a break from being too busy.

My most common prayer to God each day, a hundred times a day probably, is "Thank You. Thank You for being with me." That's it.

Just thank Him for His presence in your life. When you wake up say good morning to Him and thank Him. When you go to sleep, thank Him. Walking with God should be a joy, not a burden. He doesn't want you to be unhappy and miserable or not have any fun. Jesus came to give us life in abundance. And peace. And joy! Why do so many Christians forget about the joy! Have fun, it is ok. :) Relax. Take a breath. Give Him your thanks. Keep it simple. Know He loves you. You are forgiven.

You do not have to be perfect. I will repeat - You do not have to be perfect. It's ok. God will help you, He is perfecting you. We are ALL works in progress. We are all sinners saved by grace. You are loved.
Yes, excellent advice! That's what I've been doing lately, and it is definitely very good...

About thanks, this may help: Power of giving thanks to God... And how it relates to your faith or belief...

Thank him for healing even if it doesn't happen right away or you don't even fully believe it, continue to do so, even when it hasn't happened yet, till it does, cause if you remain faithful in this daily, then it will... It's hard to give thanks for something you don't believe, giving thanks daily can help you believe it...

God Bless!
 
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Having experienced homophobia, does not mean your homophobic, or homosexual either... Just a bit afraid maybe...

It's something I struggle(d) with sometimes, but Perfect Love, which is what I am, and is the course, I am seeking, casts out all fear... And, I have to remind myself that I love them and care about them, and this can help me "get over it"...

God Bless!

That is OK.

This does not mean that I am saying homosexuality should be embraced. No. I am just telling you why some of us are afraid as well.

We probably have more reasons to be afraid of people without same-sex attraction then heterosexuals have of us.

Now just to let you know, the way homophobia is used these days is a joke. It is irritating the way they use it. Someone is against homosexuality they homophobic, according to the world. People who speak against it are homophobic, according to the world. This is not so. Phobia is fear. This I know. So, I hate how the world uses it.

I have heterophobia towards men, not towards women, but men. I can be professional with them, but that is it. I have always viewed men as insensitive and uncaring. When I am around heterosexual men, and they are engaging with me in a nonprofessional way, it terrifies me. I have even had panic attacks. People don't believe that exists but it does. Most gays who get beaten up are by heterosexual males. Now, I can't speak for the community, for I have never been part of the community. I am just going by the stories I read. And I can speak for myself.

I have read that some gays have gotten kicked out of their homes. Some get beaten up. Some have gotten kicked out of homeless shelters and left homeless.

Now, I don't know how authentic these stories are. But it is enough to scare me.

If I go to church, I will probably be the only one who has same-sex attraction. That scares me too. Scared of being alone in the church. Scared the men in the church will be really uncomfortable around me. But just being around them would make me uncomfortable. I wouldn't know how engage in a conversation with them. (The woman in the church will be fine). I also have an effeminate personality, which I need to get rid of. But that has always been my personality since I was a kid. This scares me greatly. 1 Corinthians says the effeminate will not inherit the kingdom. My fear is both spiritual and physical. Scared of going to hell and being rejected by the church.

So I have fears too.
 
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That is OK.

This does not mean that I am saying homosexuality should be embraced. No. I am just telling you why some of us are afraid as well.

We probably have more reasons to be afraid of people without same-sex attraction then heterosexuals have of us.

Now just to let you know, the way homophobia is used these days is a joke. It is irritating the way they use it. Someone is against homosexuality they homophobic, according to the world. People who speak against it are homophobic, according to the world. This is not so. Phobia is fear. This I know. So, I hate how the world uses it.

I have heterophobia towards men, not towards women, but men. I can be professional with them, but that is it. I have always viewed men as insensitive and uncaring. When I am around heterosexual men, and they are engaging with me in a nonprofessional way, it terrifies me. I have even had panic attacks. People don't believe that exists but it does. Most gays who get beaten up are by heterosexual males. Now, I can't speak for the community, for I have never been part of the community. I am just going by the stories I read. And I can speak for myself.

I have read that some gays have gotten kicked out of their homes. Some get beaten up. Some have gotten kicked out of homeless shelters and left homeless.

Now, I don't know how authentic these stories are. But it is enough to scare me.

If I go to church, I will probably be the only one who has same-sex attraction. That scares me too. Scared of being alone in the church. Scared the men in the church will be really uncomfortable around me. But just being around them would make me uncomfortable. I wouldn't know how engage in a conversation with them. (The woman in the church will be fine). I also have an effeminate personality, which I need to get rid of. But that has always been my personality since I was a kid. This scares me greatly. 1 Corinthians says the effeminate will not inherit the kingdom. My fear is both spiritual and physical. Scared of going to hell and being rejected by the church.

So I have fears too.
Do you have a Bible with a concordance or index at least or a Internet Bible program like Blue Letter Bible is what I use, and just put in "fear" or courage and see what you get...

Is fear a lot of it you think?, Am I pretty correct about that, or not? or lack of knowing your identity or self-esteem and self-worth issues, which can cause insecurity which can cause fears, which can cause lust in some...

God Bless!
 
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That is OK.

This does not mean that I am saying homosexuality should be embraced. No. I am just telling you why some of us are afraid as well.

We probably have more reasons to be afraid of people without same-sex attraction then heterosexuals have of us.

Now just to let you know, the way homophobia is used these days is a joke. It is irritating the way they use it. Someone is against homosexuality they homophobic, according to the world. People who speak against it are homophobic, according to the world. This is not so. Phobia is fear. This I know. So, I hate how the world uses it.

I have heterophobia towards men, not towards women, but men. I can be professional with them, but that is it. I have always viewed men as insensitive and uncaring. When I am around heterosexual men, and they are engaging with me in a nonprofessional way, it terrifies me. I have even had panic attacks. People don't believe that exists but it does. Most gays who get beaten up are by heterosexual males. Now, I can't speak for the community, for I have never been part of the community. I am just going by the stories I read. And I can speak for myself.

I have read that some gays have gotten kicked out of their homes. Some get beaten up. Some have gotten kicked out of homeless shelters and left homeless.

Now, I don't know how authentic these stories are. But it is enough to scare me.

If I go to church, I will probably be the only one who has same-sex attraction. That scares me too. Scared of being alone in the church. Scared the men in the church will be really uncomfortable around me. But just being around them would make me uncomfortable. I wouldn't know how engage in a conversation with them. (The woman in the church will be fine). I also have an effeminate personality, which I need to get rid of. But that has always been my personality since I was a kid. This scares me greatly. 1 Corinthians says the effeminate will not inherit the kingdom. My fear is both spiritual and physical. Scared of going to hell and being rejected by the church.

So I have fears too.

My heart goes out to you. I wish I could give you a real hug. One thing I know is that self-hatred is not healthy. I do not for one minute believe a merciful God will ever condemn a struggling, suffering human being for being "effeminate."

As long as you are a kind and loving person who causes no harm to anyone you have nothing to fear from God. Ever.

I know several gay people in my personal life. All I know about them is they live in faithfulness, love and harmony with their same-sex partners (one female couple is legally married). They cause no harm to anyone. They live honest, productive, stable and caring lives. I respect and love them as my friends with zero judgment from my part. Honestly, I believe those who harshly judge others who are different from them are the ones who should really fear God. God looks on the heart of each person. Love is what he is looking for. Love for Him and love for His children.

Do you think if Jesus were walking on earth among us now He would condone cruel behavior towards gay people? I do not believe that. I believe He would be as kind and compassionate as He was to the tax collector and the woman at the well. We are ALL sinful. Don't let anyone fool you.

The only sin that will send you to hell is the sin of rejecting Jesus and the Holy Spirit, by consciously engaging in evil actions that harm others, and desiring to harm them, for your entire lifetime, also known as "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit," and the most misinterpreted verse ever. You have not done that, you are not doing that. You are safe in His hands.
 
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Do you have a Bible with a concordance or index at least or a Internet Bible program like Blue Letter Bible is what I use, and just put in "fear" or courage and see what you get...

Is fear a lot of it you think?, Am I pretty correct about that, or not? or lack of knowing your identity or self-esteem and self-worth issues, which can cause insecurity which can cause fears, which can cause lust in some...

God Bless!

That is a good question. One that I look into.

God bless you too.
 
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My heart goes out to you. I wish I could give you a real hug. One thing I know is that self-hatred is not healthy. I do not for one minute believe a merciful God will ever condemn a struggling, suffering human being for being "effeminate."

As long as you are a kind and loving person who causes no harm to anyone you have nothing to fear from God. Ever.

I know several gay people in my personal life. All I know about them is they live in faithfulness, love and harmony with their same-sex partners (one female couple is legally married). They cause no harm to anyone. They live honest, productive, stable and caring lives. I respect and love them as my friends with zero judgment from my part. Honestly, I believe those who harshly judge others who are different from them are the ones who should really fear God. God looks on the heart of each person. Love is what he is looking for. Love for Him and love for His children.

Do you think if Jesus were walking on earth among us now He would condone cruel behavior towards gay people? I do not believe that. I believe He would be as kind and compassionate as He was to the tax collector and the woman at the well. We are ALL sinful. Don't let anyone fool you.

The only sin that will send you to hell is the sin of rejecting Jesus and the Holy Spirit, by consciously engaging in evil actions that harm others, and desiring to harm them, for your entire lifetime, also known as "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit," and the most misinterpreted verse ever. You have not done that, you are not doing that. You are safe in His hands.

Thank you and God bless
 
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I suspect you struggle with "fear", causing lust, but, whatever... Perhaps over things that seek to puff you up, which is wise... Keeping you head up in life or above water, so to speak...? Perhaps struggle with Identity and self-esteem and your worth as well...

This could be true. I don't know.
 
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To be blunt, I find that ignorant and deeply insulting to people who have honestly searched.

Hey CD, before you get too far drawn into the error demonstrated by the author, remember, he does not have your experiences nor your understanding. I believe him to be serious and believing what he said.

What this tells me is that you cannot fathom an honest search that comes up short. You have an erroneous belief that people who seek god find him but to hold to this you have to exclude anyone who 'diligently searched' and yet failed to find god, and claim they're not true Christians, or pretenders.

That is one of the common faults of folks who are attatched to a congregation; i.e., they tend to believe the common doctrinal understanding. And why not, don't we normally (not necessarily correctly) believe what the greatest number in our gathering believe? I think it is a seeking for consensus, because we need reassuring that we are not wasting our time believing something no one else understands.

Say someone likes eating junk food, then decide to eliminate it from their diet after learning what's in it and the harmful things it could do. Would they suddenly "not have eaten the right junk food"? Or someone who becomes a vegetarian was never really a meat-eater?

There's testimonies out there of those who were strong in the faith once, and I'm sure you could find more if you looked.

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Please don't take offense at the ignorance of those who honestly try to help you? Have you not considered, maybe God sent you here to teach them something?

Did you know that most of what is considered "Orthodoxy" by today's churches, is the direct result of "Scholars" trying to help us understand better, those things that they have pieced together from what their teachers have said.

Did you know, for example, that many of the doctrines agreed upon in the churches are not scriptural?

Example?
Original sin; where all suffer death because of the original sin of Adam.

Did you know Adam did not commit the original sin? And the doctrine was originally built around developing Mary as free from original sin so Jesus would not be so "tainted?" It is called the doctrine of "The immaculate conception" referring to Mary as the mother of Jesus.

The fact is, the first sin was committed by Eve, not Adam, and she ate of the forbidden fruit, and brought it to Adam and He did eat.

Scripture tells us God made Adam and Eve and named THEIR NAME Adam, male and female, (Genesis 5:1-2) . So when it elsewhere tells us "By one man sin entered..." it is referencing Adam AND Eve, for no man is a full man without the mate God provides. TOGETHER, they are one man, one flesh.

Did you know the doctrine of Original sin is false? Look to Paul's writing as he tells us "For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;"(Rom 2:14-15)

What then happens to that "Sin nature" so popular among preachers? How then do they explain Enoch, who pleased God, and was translated that he should not see death? How then do they explain Noah, and Daniel, and Job, who saved only their own selves by their righteousness?

Almost everything taught through doctrines of men is a corruption of what scripture actually tells us. But it is "orthodoxy" by consensus.

God is trinity? Explain then why God used singular grammar to tell us over a hundred times in the Law, in the Prophets, and in the Psalms, "Egw eimi ho Theos," I AM THE GOD." Every word of that statement is singular, not plural if indeed God is three persons in one being.

And when He introduced Himself to Moses, He said "Egw eimi ho hwn" - "I am the being." And He used only grammatically singular word-forms. A grammatically singular word-form is a grammatical count-word used to tell us how many "Persons" are under consideration by using the word referenced. So a "person-singular" word-form cannot possibly reference a multiple-person singular being; it is a grammatical contradiction.

Again, when Jesus said I am "ouk eimi monos, because the Father is with me"
(I am not alone); and then Isaiah tells us Jehovah, God monos (alone) created heaven and earth, then repeats it several times, Well, you begin to suspect something is not right in the colleges where Christian doctrine is taught.

So instead of castigating someone for "getting it wrong," utter a simple "sigh," roll your eyes, and begin a prayer, in humility, for that person's understanding to come within learning distance of truth, and thank God you have been brought to a slightly different understanding, and pursue it with all your being.

Remember, nothing in scripture guarantees your teachers to be inspired, only that the Holy Spirit teaches truth. Do you suppose He will have any problem teaching that soul who really wants to know, and has the courage to go it alone if the whole world knows better? That will never make them right, it will only make them popular.

So don't give up. Look to the scriptures, the Hebrew if you are a Jew, the Greek if you are a Gentile. The Hebrew old testament was given to the Jews to bring them to Christ; the Greek was given to the Jews to hold in store for the Gentiles when it would be their time, which came in Paul's day. The Greek was called "The oracle" of God.

Again, when people tell you Jesus was the logos of God, remind them that "The logos was God" (John 1:1) and that Jesus was the image of His person.
(Heb 1:3). One was God, the other was the image thereof. Not remotely the same.

And did you know some boards will not ever tolerate honest discussion over those things they consider "Orthodox doctrine?" They will not even allow polite conversation over many issues of truth, but insist their popular concepts be kept isolated and pristine.

Thank God for this board where truth can still be discussed between gentle-persons.
 
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I just wanted to help him and offer some perspective, not my intent to judge, only help, did not say anything at all about his going to heaven or not, but I don't know if you meant me by that?

Sorry, if it seemed like anything else...

And I said, I "suspect", not meaning that I know for 100% sure, but I suspect only...

God Bless!

This is OK. I don't consider judgmental. If you have something to add, I would really like to hear it.
 
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This could be true. I don't know.
I had the problem too, and it was very difficult to try to remember or recall how it all began, so, I understand that... And, cause I couldn't remember I became even more afraid cause I couldn't tell, and it had gotten to the point that the fear and the lust were nearly or seemed to simultaneous, and I couldn't remember back to when it wasn't...?

But, it was the fear, and I know now that it was, cause if I could keep from becoming afraid, the lust wouldn't happen, cause it was a side effect of it... And that's how I knew...

Look up key words in a Bible search, like fear, courage, strength, trials, tribulations, ect...

God Bless!
 
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I had the problem too, and it was very difficult to try to remember or recall how is all began, so, I understand that... And, cause I couldn't remember I became even more afraid cause I couldn't tell, and it had gotten to the point that the fear and the lust were nearly or seemed to simultaneous, and I couldn't remember back to when it wasn't...?

But, it was the fear, and I know now that it was, cause if I could keep from becoming afraid, the lust wouldn't happen, cause it was a side effect of it... And that's how I knew...

Look up key words in a Bible search, like fear, courage, strength, trials, tribulations, ect...

God Bless!

I will. Thank you.
 
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i struggled with a similar issue,only i never acted on those impulses,thank God i had people praying for me or my story would have been different....do you know why God asks all the male Israelites to circumcise even though they are camped right outside the enemy stronghold(Jericho)circumcision meant cutting off the flesh,we as Christians after getting delivered are to circumcise our flesh,not be controlled by the flesh.ill give you a practical example go on a fast see how badly your body asks for food,but your spirit stands strong and says NO! you shall not eat.Jesus has given you the authority to stand strong against this sin.put on Gods Armour fight this stronghold(in your case Jericho) in the spirit.He will without doubt give you victory if only you believe.refuse to live with it one day longer than necesarry

God bless you
 
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I will. Thank you.
Your very welcome, hope it helped...

Feel free to PM me or catch me on here again and ask me anything, or talk about anything you want, OK?

God Bless!
 
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What is it that makes you think that you might not be seeking him with your whole heart?

Because this pastor was saying gays can not be saved.

I am convince now that he was wrong.
 
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What is it that makes you think that you might not be seeking him with your whole heart?

Oh, you were asking about why I think I am not seeking him with my whole heart. I thought you asked something else.

Well, I watch a lot of TV. But I think I am going make an effort to seek God more.
 
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To be blunt, I find that ignorant and deeply insulting to people who have honestly searched. What this tells me is that you cannot fathom an honest search that comes up short. You have an erroneous belief that people who seek god find him but to hold to this you have to exclude anyone who 'diligently searched' and yet failed to find god, and claim they're not true Christians, or pretenders. Say someone likes eating junk food, then decide to eliminate it from their diet after learning what's in it and the harmful things it could do. Would they suddenly "not have eaten the right junk food"? Or someone who becomes a vegetarian was never really a meat-eater?

There's testimonies out there of those who were strong in the faith once, and I'm sure you could find more if you looked.

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HI CD, You're right, I do. God also does. He has said that He will be found by those who diligently seek Him. He doesn't say that He might or He could be, but that He will be found by those who diligently seek Him.

Now, this leaves us with two possibilities. God's a liar or you don't understand what it means to diligently seek for God and have just let people tell you that they have and left it at that. Believing that if they say they have, then they have.

My guess is that you don't really know what it means to diligently seek for something. You ask people, "Have you read the bible?" They answer, yes. "Have you prayed about it?" They answer yes. But diligence is more than just taking some planned out steps and going through them and when you get to the end of those steps you've done due diligence.

Yes, I've also heard people say that they've studied the Scriptures and haven't found God. I've even talked with atheists who will tell me that they know the 'bible' better than most christians and yet they don't know God. What I know of those people is that while they may tell me that they 'diligently' sought for God, I know that they didn't. God is not a liar! The person in question just doesn't understand what it means to 'diligently' seek.

Listen, go with what you believe to be the truth. Me, I'm going with God every time.

God bless you,
In Christ, ted
 
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Howdy sir!

I know many others have said it already, but I'll add, that YES you too can be saved!

You are not alone in your struggles. I've struggled in the same manner since I was in my early teens, I'm now 41. I too seek to follow and live for Christ and not my flesh.

I don't know if you'd be interested, but I am part of a Christian community online that is specifically for men and women who struggle in this way. We all work together and share our struggles and hold one another up in prayer and in Christian love.

You can check our their site at www.livehope.org. It's not a therapy site or anything of that manner, just a Christian group seeking to help those who struggle but seek to walk in obedience to Christ.

It's not an easy path, but the fact that you seek to not act out on your feelings and to live for God says a lot about your hearts TRUE desire. Paul pointed out in his many teachings that our flesh desires things contrary to the Spirit, and our Spirit (once we come to Christ) desires things contrary to the flesh. The Spirit desires to do what is right, but it's a struggle.

Keep seeking God, and don't let the enemy speak lies into your heart and mind. God loves you.

Thank you

I will check that out.
 
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