We should start a thread in another section, but I'll post a few points. I might not be able to continue at the present time, thus a reservation to begin.
Heb 9:28 is one of the only scripture that refer specifically to a "second coming". And in the same book, in the next chapter in vs 37 his coming (or titusescoming) is said to be in a very little while from the point in time of the writing. So much so that those to whom he is writing are among those who would not shrink back to destruction or the mosaic covt ways but would have faith to the saving of the soul.
9:28 is referring to IS 66:5 and I believe Heb 10:37 refers to gods prophecied coming through the heads of the leaders of Israels enemies as prophecied in deut 32:42 nkjv has it most clear. He who is to come in 10:37 is thus referring to Christ coming through the heads of romes leaders and to dan 9::26 as referring to titus as one of thise heads.
The second appearing for "salvation" is not a salvation of relationship with Gids favor but a salvation from persecution and oppressiin that is also mentioned in rom 11:26 & Isaiah 59:20 and parts of Is 61. It's also implied that his sword would bring judgement in favor if the saints in deut 32 and Is 59.
Another major (I believe false) premise is that acts 1:11 demands and foretells a bodily return. But, though that can be read into it, it is not what is stated or implied. It is stated that he would return in the SAME MANNER as they had seen him go INTO HEAVEN. How did they see him go into heaven??? As a dove?, an eagle?, a lightening bolt? a ball of fire?, bodily?, No, they saw him assimilate into a low cloud, like had led them as Gods presence through the wilderness, and then the presence of God/Jesus went into heaven IN A CLOUD!!!!
This idea of coming in or with clouds is repeated by jesus a few times in his teachings and I think the apostles.
So how did Jesus go INTO HEAVEN?? Answer: in a cloud representing the person and presence of God.
How wouldþhe come a second time for salvatiin, deliverance and approving favor to the justified and freed? In a cloud. How did he profecy that he woukd deliver vengeance to his enemies of the new covenant in deut 32:42? Answer, through the minds if the leaders of last generation Israels enemies; the romans. This theme of "salvation" by judgement against his new covt enemies is repeated in Is 59:17,18 & 61:10 & 66:15,16. This is the "second appearing fo salvation of those who believed but were being persecuted and killed that is mentioned in Heb 9:28 and rom 10:26. "All Israel" in rom 10:26 is a phrase defined by Paul in Rom 9 to refer to the believers in Christ who are counted for the (spiritual likeness or "seed" of the patriarchs who also had believed in the coming fture seed
promised through the female gender. Even of the gentiles as he says in Rom 9:24.
So how and when did Chist as the presence of God come a second time for salvation and deliverance and in a CLOUD?? ? I 66 or 67 AD (you can ckeck) both josephus and tacticus repirt that a phenomenon was seen over judea and if it were not so well known an so widely reported, people would think of them as fools for reporting and recording it. Around sunset of a particular feast (i forget which) the clouds began forming themselves in the shape of roman soldiers, horses and chariots, running to and fro behind the clouds, complete with glittering swords and shields.
What betyer way to affirm that the roman invasion was indeed Jesus/God coming througb the minds of the leaders of Israels enemies and against Gods enemies of the new covenant?
Some likely can't or won't believe this miracle and phenomenon happened, but they will tell you that jesus will literally set foot on mt olivet and create an earthquake (which obviously could occur if that were what was intended.
A big player in this is deciphering the intent of acts 1:7-11 and the short term timing allowed for the judgement against those who persecuted the laws of the new covt. Anothrr big player is that parts of the creeds adopt Irenelses 2nd century literal/futurist perspective a a "second future presence or coming.
It is not however, IMO, that he has left us alone for I believe he still resides within in favor of those who recieve him and judges in favor of the new covt laws and ordinances and against those who persecute and reject it. And I believe he "appears In and at the end of each persons life in favor or disfavor Is 65:20. If one is afraid of death, they should tell him while having absolute faith that he hears, loves, created life and grants requests to those who believe on him.
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