BLM are self described Marxists

[WonbyOneanddone]

Some people clearly cannot understand humor and metaphor.

You know, Christians have made similar statements in the past, like John Milton, who portrayed the Devil in a sympathetic way at times. Does that make them Satanists, or merely good at using imagery to explain something that is very human, the desire for autonomy (which in itself is not evil, unless you want to give up American ideals, perhaps).

The book was written by a man who was not a Christian and offered advice on how to fight in non-Christ like terms.

Given the totality of the work, how would you define it?

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

History is merely repeating itself - during the 60's American conservatives were all too willing in their attempts to discredit Martin Luther King Jr as a communist, despite the fact that as a Baptist minister it was difficult to portray him as an atheist!

Conservatives have a long history of branding their opponents as Marxists and communists when their other criticisms fail to gain traction with the public!

Given this President's attraction to all things Putin and his diplomatic "love affair" with his pen-pal Kim Jung-un, its the Democrats who could make a far more convincing case that Donald J Trump is the true Marxist sympathizer!

Did you even read the original OP? BLM are self admitted Marxists.

To be so brazen about an ideology that has murdered and oppressed millions more than fascism/Nazism, and be so well embraced abroad, is deeply troubling to me as a result.

 

[Desk trauma]

Marx tried to adopt a Christian morality while rejecting Christ. In other words, he sought to help the poor while rejecting the church. The results have been devastating to the world with hundreds of millions dead.

Why exaggerate the body count of Marxist regimes? The reality was and is horrendous.

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

Pretty much every one was at the time. Do you find it ironic for everyone?

So racism does not mean anything if those who created a Left wing ideology were racists, but it does matter if those who founded a country that runs contrary to Left winged ideology were racists?

The whole argument from the Left is that the US was founded on systemic racism, so it all needs to be torn down and start over, yet they ignore the plank in their own eye?

I reckon anything for political power. Isn't that right.

 

[FireDragon76]

This is a Christian site, and as such, I'm sounding the alarm for those who are swayed by Marxism.

Marx tried to adopt a Christian morality while rejecting Christ. In other words, he sought to help the poor while rejecting the church. The results have been devastating to the world with hundreds of millions dead.

2 Timothy 3:5

having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

Marx did not offer a Christian morality at all. Marx offered solidarity and overcoming alienation.

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

That's what I'm saying. Make color (white or black) disappear.

If you say all lives matter, you can now lose your job because many have for saying it.

We are entering a time of PC fascism where just thinking something contrary to Left wing ideology will destroy your life.

Another example are the Left winged college compasses across the country. Denis Prager did a movie called, "No Safe Spaces" where he documented the Leftist intolerance. Students now declare "safe spaces" on colleges all across the country where you are not allowed to express certain politcal stances, specifically, conservative political stances. In addition, professors are often canceled if they are deemed impure from a Left winged perspective. For example, a professor was canceled for merely referring to a conservative perspective but not actively promoting it in any way. She was a life long democrat and considered herself "woke" but cannibalized by her own. Another professor had a similar situation, only, his life was threatened and he lost tenure and fired. He later went to court over it and won. And I'm sure we all have heard how conservatives are denied the right to speak at college a college campass all around the country.

The Left is essentially preparing the next wave of leaders all across the country so they will continue to fight, such as we see with Big Tech censoring conservative thought on things like Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. In fact, Youtube used to have a trailer of "No Safe Spaces" but took it down.

It is akin to Nazis burning books in years of old. It is about censoring material and thought that runs counter to your own and ideas that you have no way of successfully countering.

Nazism and Marxism are very similar

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

Marx did not offer a Christian morality at all. Marx offered solidarity and overcoming alienation.

Marx saw the suffering of the poor and offered solutions while disavowing the Christian religion, which also championed helping the poor. Before Christ, the world largely turned its back on the poor. Just look at outreaches today. Most have a Christian origination. Many hospitals and places of higher learning to help people escape poverty were started by religious folk. In fact, today those who help the poor with their own time and money are mostly those who practice their faith. However, those who are not religious tend to lean Left and want the government to take care of them. So while those of faith are out with their sleeves rolled up actually doing something about helping the poor, those on the Left spend their time demanding that we all elect people to force them to pay more in taxes in the hopes they use that money to help the poor so they won't have to.

Religious Americans Give More, New Study Finds

But that is the stark reality of trying to adopt a Christian morality while divorcing the source.

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

What Marx did was offer a materialistic philosophy of human existence. Essentially, we are all reduced to dollar signs in terms of worth because his entire philosophy boiled down to your portfolio, or lack thereof.

Conversely, the philosophy of Christ reached out to both rich and poor as both were seen as needing the same thing, which was God.

But there is a reason that tyrants over the millennia seem to adopt a Marxist philosophy. After all, we all see then need to help the poor, and the thought of taking from the rich to give to the poor as people covet the rich is overwhelmingly popular. But the real issue is control. In an economic philosophy that demands that government monitor any and all financial transactions, so they can later redistribute money from that transaction as they deem right to do so, requires such control that they then control virtually everything in your life.

Meanwhile, those that control the Marxist regime live like kings while everyone else lives in poverty.

 

[KCfromNC]

Who cares? If there was an organization that self identified as a Nazi organization and had such sway in society and corporate America people like yourself would be all up in arms, and rightly so.

In a made up situation totally different from the reality we live in a stranger insists they know what I'd think. Gosh, that's sure convincing of, well, whatever it is I'm supposed to be convinced of.

 

[KCfromNC]

If you say all lives matter, you can now lose your job because many have for saying it.

Hmm, a post complaining about the free market at work. In a thread going on and on about the threat of Marxism. Points for irony, I guess.

 

[Brightmoon]

I hope none of you are in a church that celebrates Marxism.

This is what can happen

Communism, Marxism, and Socialism: Radical Politics and Jim Jones – Alternative Considerations of Jonestown & Peoples Temple

We all know the line, "Don't drink the cool aid", but many don't know its origins. It was from a man called Jim Jones who was a Christian speaker who gravitated more towards Marx than Christ.

Think of it, a man who follows Marx who called religion an opiate for the masses.

Next thing you know, they are all drinking poison together in a mass suicide.

But most of the world seems to have drunk the same cool aid it seems. Take Venezuela, for example. It used to be the most prosperous country in South America, but now they are eating out of garbage cans with death squads going round murdering any suspected political rivals.

But that is how Marxists roll.

Jim Jones was mentally ill and probably a narcissist or sociopath . His behavior didn’t have much to do with Marxism . So why are you equating them

 

[Brightmoon]

If you say all lives matter, you can now lose your job because many have for saying it.

We are entering a time of PC fascism where just thinking something contrary to Left wing ideology will destroy your life.

Another example are the Left winged college compasses across the country. Denis Prager did a movie called, "No Safe Spaces" where he documented the Leftist intolerance. Students now declare "safe spaces" on colleges all across the country where you are not allowed to express certain politcal stances, specifically, conservative political stances. In addition, professors are often canceled if they are deemed impure from a Left winged perspective. For example, a professor was canceled for merely referring to a conservative perspective but not actively promoting it in any way. She was a life long democrat and considered herself "woke" but cannibalized by her own. Another professor had a similar situation, only, his life was threatened and he lost tenure and fired. He later went to court over it and won. And I'm sure we all have heard how conservatives are denied the right to speak at college a college campass all around the country.

The Left is essentially preparing the next wave of leaders all across the country so they will continue to fight, such as we see with Big Tech censoring conservative thought on things like Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, etc. In fact, Youtube used to have a trailer of "No Safe Spaces" but took it down.

It is akin to Nazis burning books in years of old. It is about censoring material and thought that runs counter to your own and ideas that you have no way of successfully countering.

Nazism and Marxism are very similar

. Saying “ All lives matter” is what therapists call minimizing . You’re basically denying the victim the right to even mention or complain about the abuse when you do that . It’s overwhelmingly Black people who are suffering, not all lives

 

[FireDragon76]

What Marx did was offer a materialistic philosophy of human existence. Essentially, we are all reduced to dollar signs in terms of worth because his entire philosophy boiled down to your portfolio, or lack thereof.

Actually, that's what Marx says that capitalism does. Marx believed that humans are defined in terms of their social relationships. Mechanisms such as commodity fetishism alienate us from the means of production and from each other.

Conversely, the philosophy of Christ reached out to both rich and poor as both were seen as needing the same thing, which was God.

Which according to Marx, echoing Feuerbach, was merely a projection of an idealized humanity, and not something ultimately real.

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

Jim Jones was mentally ill and probably a narcissist or sociopath . His behavior didn’t have much to do with Marxism . So why are you equating them

John 10:8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them.


It has more to do with who we appoint as our shepherd. This is why those that are not of faith are drawn to the Left and government. They inwardly desire that shepherd because deep down we know we are all sheep.

But this can happen in the church as well, either being carried away by cult of personality or cult of an organization. God should be the focus, all else are but thieves and robbers.

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

. Saying “ All lives matter” is what therapists call minimizing . You’re basically denying the victim the right to even mention or complain about the abuse when you do that . It’s overwhelmingly Black people who are suffering, not all lives

Really? Did you know that at no other time in history have there been as many slaves as there is today? Yet politically it is ignored largely as they focus on slavery in the 1800's instead.

There are more slaves now than any time in human history

And what of Jewish people? They have been oppressed like no other group of people that I'm aware of. For centuries, they were made to wear special dress to identify them, stolen from, forced to live in ghettos, kicked out of entire countries, rounded up in mass and slaughtered, and then the Holocaust came as a climax.

Care to amend that statement?

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

Actually, that's what Marx says that capitalism does. Marx believed that humans are defined in terms of their social relationships. Mechanisms such as commodity fetishism alienate us from the means of production and from each other.



Which according to Marx, echoing Feuerbach, was merely a projection of an idealized humanity, and not something ultimately real.

But the focus is on the relationship of money and those people.

There is no spiritual aspect of Marxism. It is completely materialistic in nature.

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

Hmm, a post complaining about the free market at work. In a thread going on and on about the threat of Marxism. Points for irony, I guess.

Those who burned books in the Nazi regime were also free to do so.

But it should concern people nonetheless

 

[Brightmoon]

Really? Did you know that at no other time in history have there been as many slaves as there is today? Yet politically it is ignored largely as they focus on slavery in the 1800's instead.

There are more slaves now than any time in human history

And what of Jewish people? They have been oppressed like no other group of people that I'm aware of. For centuries, they were made to wear special dress to identify them, stolen from, forced to live in ghettos, kicked out of entire countries, rounded up in mass and slaughtered, and then the Holocaust came as a climax.

Care to amend that statement?

no , you’re minimizing a serious problem for Black people by doing that ! I’m not saying these aren’t problems but bringing them in when Black people complain about THEIR Problems is insulting . Minimizing is considered to be an abuse tactic

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

no , you’re minimizing a serious problem for Black people by doing that ! I’m not saying these aren’t problems but bringing them in when Black people complain about THEIR Problems is insulting . Minimizing is considered to be an abuse tactic

I refuse to across the board say that black people have it worse than white people. That is minimizing a white child caught in human trafficking, for example, compared to a privileged black like Barak Obama who grew up well off in Hawaii.

The Left are the ones who make these calculation based on skin pigment, but that is racist.

 

[FireDragon76]

But the focus is on the relationship of money and those people.

No, actually Marx did not believe money was the proper way to engage in human relationships, that it was in fact contrary to our nature as social animals to do so.

There is no spiritual aspect of Marxism. It is completely materialistic in nature.

That's not a problem from Marx's point of view. The point is to get in touch with our actual concrete, material circumstances.